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Re-skinning the cat, might go with the F720 wo/CIFS ... -- WAS: Linux versus NetApp
by Bryan -TheBS- Smith 20 Jul '00

20 Jul '00

Re-skinning the cat, might go with the F720 wo/CIFS ... -- WAS: Linux versus NetApp All -- My boss and I took a step back and looked at the problem again. We remembered that 90% of our traffic is NFS. As such, paying an additional $8K for the CIFS support is probably not needed on the NetApp ($27K for the F720, 7x36GB, 1000Base-SX upgrade). I've had no problems with Samba on the Linux side and it's not our primary focus (we don't have a PDC BTW). I guess the only thing now is to figure out how to backup. I have an Exabyte EZ17 (7-bay autoloader, can and does emulate an EXB-210B) with a 20/40GB Mammoth[-1] drive. I don't (and never did) think much of the Mammoth, but the new 60/150GB Mammoth-2s are actually getting good reviews, only cost $3K and will allow me to re-use my autoloader. Again, anyone got any experiences with any backup software either on the NetApp or a NetApp agent to a backup server (like Solaris or Linux) that supports my autoloader? Dump might do though. Thanx ... -- TheBS -- Bryan "TheBS" Smith CONTACT INFO *********************************************************** Chat: thebs413 @ AOL/MSN/Yahoo (see http://Everybuddy.com) Email: mailto:thebs@theseus.com,b.j.smith@ieee.org Legal: http://www.SmithConcepts.com/legal.html

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some basic questions.
by Abu Ihsan 20 Jul '00

20 Jul '00

Hi, forgive me if these questions are too basic, but I need to clarify them first before start using our F760 Ontap 5.3.5R2. I'm in the learning process and I just could'nt find any faq on the net. true or false ? we cannot reduce size of a volume or reduce number of disk once allocated to a volume. we connot take a volume offline (from online state) without rebooting. we cannot create a volume in that it will become offline when created. we have to destroy entire volume to delete qtree. we cannot set maxfiles value for qtree. We have to set by volume. (I'm worrying about the news spool where we used to have a 512 bytes/inode on our UFS. How does everyone set their news spool, create a qtree for news spool or a separate volume ?) I don't understand below statement in System Administration Guide pg 72-73 : what does it mean by "The maximum RAID group size is 52 disks." when "The largest RAID group size you can create manually is 28 disks." thanks, --ihsanna __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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RE: NOW website down?
by Renee.LaLonde＠netapp.com 19 Jul '00

19 Jul '00

Hi Everyone, The planned downtime window for "routine upgrades/maintenance" to NOW is actually scheduled only during late hours (US PDT) on Saturdays. We picked Saturday nights based upon the small amount of web traffic that occurs during this period so that we can minimize the impacts to our customers. The outage that we experienced yesterday was due to internal networking issues and was not a "planned" outage. However, our standard "planned downtime" message below was displayed. We will look at making this message more representative of the issue at hand. Thanks for your feedback. If you have any questions/further input please feel free to send me an email directly. Best Regards, Renee La Londe renee(a)netapp.com E-Service Web Manager Get Answers on NOW (Netapp on the Web)! http://now.netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Innis [mailto:figaro911@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 4:51 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NOW website down? Seems the NOW website is down for "routine" maintenance. Seems strange to be having routine maintenance during what is still business hours here on the West Coast. Ok, not trying to be US centric but I'am sure that most of Netapps sales are from US based businesses, so it would seem to be sensible to do this during "off" hours, 2:00am EDT sounds good. Comments from Netapp folks? J The NOW website will be inaccessible due to routine maintenance. We apologize for the inconvenience. To download software, please go to download.netapp.com. The Global Support Center can be reached during this time (and at all times) by the phone numbers below: 1-888-4NETAPP (toll free within U.S.) 1-408-822-4700 (direct dial from elsewhere) 00 800 44 NETAPP (for countries with UIFN; toll-free) +31 23 5679605 (for all other countries; int'l call r ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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NOW website down?
by Jeff Innis 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

Seems the NOW website is down for "routine" maintenance. Seems strange to be having routine maintenance during what is still business hours here on the West Coast. Ok, not trying to be US centric but I'am sure that most of Netapps sales are from US based businesses, so it would seem to be sensible to do this during "off" hours, 2:00am EDT sounds good. Comments from Netapp folks? J The NOW website will be inaccessible due to routine maintenance. We apologize for the inconvenience. To download software, please go to download.netapp.com. The Global Support Center can be reached during this time (and at all times) by the phone numbers below: 1-888-4NETAPP (toll free within U.S.) 1-408-822-4700 (direct dial from elsewhere) 00 800 44 NETAPP (for countries with UIFN; toll-free) +31 23 5679605 (for all other countries; int'l call r ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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MAIL PROBE - PLEASE IGNORE
by Brian.Murray＠netapp.com 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

Testing mail delivery to toasters(a)mathworks.com

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RE: Files being deleted
by Mike Sphar 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

Yes, I had the same question. Similar results can occur on the UNIX side when editing files with vi if the local partition that holds vi's tmp files (often /usr/tmp) is full. (Note that the filer itself doesn't necessarily have to be full. It could be the machine people are doing editing from.) -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services, BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD -----Original Message----- From: Krzysztof Miller [mailto:tytus@lucent.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 6:10 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Files being deleted What editor does user use and how directory is mounted ? I had similiar problems with Wincenter Pro and Interdrive (mounting shares for PCs using NFS) regards -- Krzysztof bhaskar.g(a)philips.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > Strange things are happening on the Filer. We have a F720, with Ontap version 5.3.5R2P2. > > Users are editing a file, once they quit the editor and look at the file size it is of zero bytes. > This is happening quite often. Any solution for this problem. > > Thanks for snapshots we could retrieve the file back. Though the snapshots are there this is > not good. > > kind regards > > Bhaskar G > Philips Semiconductors, > #3, Sterling Square,Madras Bank Road, > Off St Mark's Road,BANGALORE-560 001. > Voice : +91 80 222 9200 Ext 5060 > Fax: +91 80 2229700

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RE: getting back "broken" disk
by Adam.Fox＠netapp.com 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

filer> rc_toggle_baisc filer*> disk_zero <X.Y> Then pop the disk out and pop it back in. (You should probably use disk swap to be safe). Hope this helps. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Abu Ihsan [mailto:ihsanna@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 11:35 PM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: getting back "broken" disk > > > Hi, > I've mistakenly runned "disk fail" to a disk and it is > now marked "broken". > How do I get the disk back to operation ? > > thanks, > --ihsanna > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ >

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Files being deleted
by bhaskar.g＠philips.com 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

Hi All, Strange things are happening on the Filer. We have a F720, with Ontap version 5.3.5R2P2. Users are editing a file, once they quit the editor and look at the file size it is of zero bytes. This is happening quite often. Any solution for this problem. Thanks for snapshots we could retrieve the file back. Though the snapshots are there this is not good. kind regards Bhaskar G Philips Semiconductors, #3, Sterling Square,Madras Bank Road, Off St Mark's Road,BANGALORE-560 001. Voice : +91 80 222 9200 Ext 5060 Fax: +91 80 2229700

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Re: Files being deleted
by mds＠gbnet.net 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

On Tue 18 Jul, 2000, bhaskar.g(a)philips.com wrote: > Strange things are happening on the Filer. We have a F720, with Ontap version 5.3.5R2P2. > > Users are editing a file, once they quit the editor and look at the file size it is of zero bytes. > This is happening quite often. Any solution for this problem. Just a thought - have you placed (a) quota(s) that apply to the area where the users are editing the files? If the quota space limit is maxed but the file limit isn't, then you might see this sort of problem. How long has the problem been going on and have you made any changes to the clients or the filer (including mount-point options, patching, etc. on the clients and the usual sort of filer config changes) in a period that might correlate with the start of the problem? > Thanks for snapshots we could retrieve the file back. Though the snapshots are there this is > not good. Until you fix the problem it might be an idea to rename at least one of those snapshots so they don't expire and force you to use backup tapes. >-- End of excerpt from bhaskar.g(a)philips.com -- -Mark ... an Englishman in London ...

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getting back "broken" disk
by Abu Ihsan 18 Jul '00

18 Jul '00

Hi, I've mistakenly runned "disk fail" to a disk and it is now marked "broken". How do I get the disk back to operation ? thanks, --ihsanna __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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