toasters July 2006

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RE: Defragmenation Question on Filer after few GB deletion.
by Cope, Michael 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

Marge, Take a look at Knowledge Base article KB4998 on the NOW site. It has all the information you need to decide when and how to defragment volumes and LUNS. In a nutshell, use Windows utilities to defragment a NTFS LUN and use reallocate (ONTAP 7) or wafl scan reallocate (ONTAP 6.x and earlier) for volumes and files. Michael Cope NetApp Professional Services Engineer mcope(a)NetApp.com Simplifying Data Storage Management -----Original Message----- From: margesimpson(a)hushmail.com [mailto:margesimpson@hushmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:14 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Defragmenation Question on Filer after few GB deletion. Hi all: Could tech gurus respond to this question: I am planning to clean up some space on the filer - say 10GB. Since WAFL FS is intellegent minimizing the defrag issues, what happens on deletion of the files on my volume? If I delete 10GB of 50GB, will the FS still be fragmented, or WAFL does it auto when files are deleted? Do I will have to run defrag tools explicitly? Thank you for your reply. Marge. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485

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RE: Defragmenation Question on Filer after few GB deletion.
by Glenn Walker 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

When you delete the file, the blocks are eventually freed provided that there are no snapshots holding onto these blocks. If the data was already contiguous, then you should have 10GB of contiguous free space. If the files were not, then... you get the picture. WAFL does a very good job of keeping fragmentation out of the picture - however, if the filesystem fills up, this causes problems. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of margesimpson(a)hushmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:14 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Defragmenation Question on Filer after few GB deletion. Hi all: Could tech gurus respond to this question: I am planning to clean up some space on the filer - say 10GB. Since WAFL FS is intellegent minimizing the defrag issues, what happens on deletion of the files on my volume? If I delete 10GB of 50GB, will the FS still be fragmented, or WAFL does it auto when files are deleted? Do I will have to run defrag tools explicitly? Thank you for your reply. Marge. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485

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Defragmenation Question on Filer after few GB deletion.
by margesimpson＠hushmail.com 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

Hi all: Could tech gurus respond to this question: I am planning to clean up some space on the filer - say 10GB. Since WAFL FS is intellegent minimizing the defrag issues, what happens on deletion of the files on my volume? If I delete 10GB of 50GB, will the FS still be fragmented, or WAFL does it auto when files are deleted? Do I will have to run defrag tools explicitly? Thank you for your reply. Marge. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485

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14 Jul '06

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RE: snapshot and snaprestore licneses
by Willeke, Jochen 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

Hi, does anybody know if there is a way to use snaprestore to recover a qtree out of a snapshot without doing so much manual work?? We are currently in a need for this. Would be great if snaprestore can do the work for me :-) Best regards Jochen -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Stephen C Woods Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:47 PM To: Cope, Michael Cc: Linux Admin; NetApp Toasters List Subject: Re: snapshot and snaprestore licneses On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 09:11:42AM -0700, Cope, Michael wrote: > Snapshot is free. You can use it to do restores, but it's a very manual > process. Snapshot saved my butt many times when I was a customer. > SnapRestore is a licensed product that makes large and/or complex > restores a simple process. Unlike other vendors that "bolt on" > features, all of NetApp's features are built into the OS and only need > to be licensed to turn on. > Which netapp manages to to w/o having major kernel bloat, that just amazes the heck out of me. <scw> > -- ----- Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASnet; 2567 Boelter hall; LA CA 90095; (310)-825-8614 Unless otherwise noted these statements are my own, Not those of the University of California. Internet mail:scw@seas.ucla.edu

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VIRUS (Win32/MyDoom.O!Worm): IN UNA E-MAIL DA LEI INVIATA
by Content-filter at chamaleon.trampi.mpi.it 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

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13 Jul '06

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RE: snapshot and snaprestore licneses
by Cope, Michael 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

Snapshot is free. You can use it to do restores, but it's a very manual process. Snapshot saved my butt many times when I was a customer. SnapRestore is a licensed product that makes large and/or complex restores a simple process. Unlike other vendors that "bolt on" features, all of NetApp's features are built into the OS and only need to be licensed to turn on. Michael Cope NetApp Professional Services Engineer mcope(a)NetApp.com <mailto:mcope@NetApp.com> Cell: (858) 204-2400 txt msg: 8582042400(a)vtext.com <mailto:8582042400@vtext.com> Simplifying Data Storage Management ________________________________ From: Linux Admin [mailto:sysadmin.linux@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:59 AM To: NetApp Toasters List Subject: snapshot and snaprestore licneses Can someone please quickly explain to me how netapp licensing work: Do you need to buy SnapRestore license to have SnapShot capabilities?

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RE: snapshot and snaprestore licneses
by Brosseau, Paul 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

Basic Snapshot capabilities do not require a license. You can config the system to take automatc snapshots via the snap sched command or through FilerView. You can also take snapshots on an ad hoc basis with the snap create command or via scripts using RSH or SSH. SnapRestore is a licensed feature. Paulb _____ From: Linux Admin [mailto:sysadmin.linux@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:59 AM To: NetApp Toasters List Subject: snapshot and snaprestore licneses Can someone please quickly explain to me how netapp licensing work: Do you need to buy SnapRestore license to have SnapShot capabilities?

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RE: snapshot and snaprestore licneses
by Sels Roger 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

you only need a SnapRestore license when you want to be able to restore a complete volume if you are satisfied with copying files out of the ~snapshot environment SnapRestore is obsolete... Roger ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Linux Admin Sent: do 13 jul 06 16:59 To: NetApp Toasters List Subject: snapshot and snaprestore licneses Can someone please quickly explain to me how netapp licensing work: Do you need to buy SnapRestore license to have SnapShot capabilities?

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