toasters January 2004

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Using SyncSort Backup Express NDMP on 740 filer
by Maglinger, Paul 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Greetings to all... Due to problems getting Veritas BackupExec 9.0 to play nicely with our 740 filer (can see the volumes and shares, but they are greyed out... tried using User Defined Selection and would get a pop-up saying it couldn't access the files). So, as we also use SyncSort Backup Express, we are trying to use NDMP, and now we come to the issue. By using NDMP, it doesn't appear that we can redirect our restores so our only choice is to restore over the top of the existing files. This raises another issue in that it appears that we couldn't do a restore to any other type machine than a Network Applicance NAS. We were hoping that in a disaster recovery situation, we could restore to Intel machine but I don't see where that's possible using NDMP. Is there a workaround for this? Can I get some insight here? Our glory is not in never falling, but rising every time we fall. Paul Maglinger, A+, CA, CCA, CET, MCSE Systems Administrator Shoe Carnival Inc. (812)867-4674 pmaglinger(a)scvl.com

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RE: Migrating from NetApp to EMC Celera
by Garavito, Donald, CTR, OSD-ATL 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Nick, I definitely don't want to trade in my 5 filers (F880, F85, F87, FAS940, R150) for a Celerra, but sometimes decisions are not based on technical merit, but "political". Don -----Original Message----- From: Nick Steel (Lists) [mailto:mrlist@noid.org] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:02 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Migrating from NetApp to EMC Celera I can't help but ask, why on earth would you want to go away from a toaster over to a Celerra? I would never use a Celerra for anything other than a boat anchor[1]. I had one. It was horrible, absolutely horrible. It was down 1/3 of the time and that isn't an exageration. I had to endure 16+ hour fsck's, almost half a dozen datamover panics a day. I replaced it with F840's and I've never had an issue since. I'll stop ranting now otherwise I'll start foaming at the mouth again... - Nick [1] And that's being very nice about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sto Rage(c)" <Net_Backer(a)hotmail.com> To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Migrating from NetApp to EMC Celera > Oh Boy! Did I create a storm in here!. I had many of you ask me for > details. I am doing that right now. Will email you individually once I > have compiled my issues. -G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sto Rage(c)" <Net_Backer(a)hotmail.com> > To: "Bruce Arden" <arden(a)nortelnetworks.com>; <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: Migrating from NetApp to EMC Celera > > > > I don't work for NetApp. But first ask what features would you GAIN > by > > migrating to a Calera. > > You loose so many features, the first being the simplicity to manage > > them. > > > > We just moved all of our NAS storage off Celeras to NetApps because > of > > the so many issues. > > Email me directly incase you need more info. > > -G > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bruce Arden" <arden(a)nortelnetworks.com> > > To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:44 AM > > Subject: Migrating from NetApp to EMC Celera > > > > > > > I have been asked what the problems would be migrating from NetApp > > > filers to EMC Celerra. Has anyone had any experience of doing > this. > > > What features would I loose? > > > > > > - Bruce > > > > > > -- > > > Bruce Arden arden(a)nortelnetworks.com barden2(a)csc.com > > > CSC, Nortel, London Rd, Harlow, England +44 1279 40 2877 > > > > > > > > > > > >

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RE: Using SyncSort Backup Express NDMP on 740 filer
by Garavito, Donald, CTR, OSD-ATL 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Paul, Currently using BEX 5.1.c/NDMP to back up filers. Have been able to redir restores of file systems/folders or individual files, however there are a few gotchas. The restore must go to a destination that has the same file system/security type of the original source. Thus if you back up CIFS shares that use Windows security you must restore to a destination that also has Windows security and it must be a "local" device, ie, you can't restore to a CIFS mounted share on a Windows box. Conversely, you cannot restore to a mounted export on a UNIX box. Supposely this is going to fixed in a later release of BEX, not sure if it will be incorporated in 5.2 coming out late spring/summer this year. Don Garavito Storage Team Lead OUSD(ATL) Pentagon -----Original Message----- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:PMAGLINGER@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:33 PM To: 'NetApps list server' Subject: Using SyncSort Backup Express NDMP on 740 filer Greetings to all... Due to problems getting Veritas BackupExec 9.0 to play nicely with our 740 filer (can see the volumes and shares, but they are greyed out... tried using User Defined Selection and would get a pop-up saying it couldn't access the files). So, as we also use SyncSort Backup Express, we are trying to use NDMP, and now we come to the issue. By using NDMP, it doesn't appear that we can redirect our restores so our only choice is to restore over the top of the existing files. This raises another issue in that it appears that we couldn't do a restore to any other type machine than a Network Applicance NAS. We were hoping that in a disaster recovery situation, we could restore to Intel machine but I don't see where that's possible using NDMP. Is there a workaround for this? Can I get some insight here? Our glory is not in never falling, but rising every time we fall. Paul Maglinger, A+, CA, CCA, CET, MCSE Systems Administrator Shoe Carnival Inc. (812)867-4674 pmaglinger(a)scvl.com

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RE: additional fc9 shelf
by Illa, Randolph 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

While all disks are hot-swappable (assuming not active in a filesystem) all shelves are not. I believe the only shelves that are hot-swappable/hot-upgradable are DS14 shelves. On your current platform, power-cycling head (I would power-cycle all shelves as well) is needed to resolve disk addressing. HTH -randy -----Original Message----- From: Magnar Stav Johanssen [mailto:magnar@infostream.no] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:12 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: additional fc9 shelf Hi! On my F630 running OnTAP 5.3.7R3 with one copper Fibre Channel Host Adapter and 3 FC9 shelfs connected (in one single loop). I would like to add a additional fc9 shelf to that loop. Do I need to powercycle the filer or will the filer find the new shelf without powercycle?? Regards, Magnar

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by Magnar Stav Johanssen 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

Hi! On my F630 running OnTAP 5.3.7R3 with one copper Fibre Channel Host Adapter and 3 FC9 shelfs connected (in one single loop). I would like to add a additional fc9 shelf to that loop. Do I need to powercycle the filer or will the filer find the new shelf without powercycle?? Regards, Magnar

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