toasters October 2003

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adding a gigabit interface to a F85
by Aditya 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

We have a F85 that we'd like to add a gigabit (copper or fiber) interface to: - is there a copper interface available for the F85? (I only see fiber ones) - what version of OnTAP is necessary to enable jumbo-frames - what is the max throughput in MBps we can expect the F85 to be able to push given 1 volume with 5 drives and a single large file - any known hints/problems with using such a setup with FreeBSD clients with Intel Pro/1000 copper interfaces (em)? - any recommendations on a reasonable switch which has at least one fiber interface or gbic port and one copper GigE interface? Thanks, Adi

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RE: Filer upgrades
by Darragh, Stephen J 23 Oct '03

23 Oct '03

Hi, I looked on the now site, but could not find what the fields represent? Does anyone have a list of other "missing" commands that you don't get form help or "?"? Thanks Steve Darragh > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Thompson [SMTP:cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:24 PM > To: skeezics(a)selectmetrics.com > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: Filer upgrades > > Chris Lamb writes: > > > Hey, what's that command to have ONTAP print out uptime stats? > > availsomething? I'm curious to see what our stats have been over the > last > > three years. > > "availtime", or "availtime full" for extra verbosity. One of those > commands sneakily omitted from the list given by "?". > > Chris Thompson > Email: cet1(a)cam.ac.uk

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Filer upgrades
by Ambrose_Earle＠shamrockfoods.com 23 Oct '03

23 Oct '03

Just a poll to see who attempts to disconnect/unmount every possible client (server) before attempting a DataONTAP upgrade and who types download; reboot. Does anyone leave their Oracle databases mounted via NFS over UDP up the whole time?

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User defined SNMP traps
by paul.winchcombe＠ukgateway.net 23 Oct '03

23 Oct '03

Does anyone have any recommendation on user defined snmp traps. I am interested in monitoring of Qtree space and Cluster monitoring Regards Paul

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TCP connection limit on OT anymore?
by Kennedy, Jeffrey 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

From what I hear there was a hard limit of 25 connections to a filer when using TCP. The only way to get around that at the time was use UDP. From everything I've read, people I've talked to, and NetApp's own assertion this limit is long gone. The only limit now is a practical one of cpu and memory. Does anyone have any evidence to the contrary? Thanks. ~JK

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RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator
by Ben Rockwood 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

Figured I'd pass this along incase someone doesn't know. Sun doesn't themselves supply an iSCSI initiator for Solaris. There is an iSCSI initiator in "Sun Linux" but thats just open source Linux code, not Sun stuff. Cisco however does seem to have an iSCSI initiator for Solaris (and HP-UX, AIX, etc). Check it out here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/ps4159/ps2160/products_qanda_item091… To get it you need a Cisco login which I don't have, and it's already been EOL'ed. Might be interesting to play with however. benr. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Christian [mailto:mchristi@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Wed 10/22/2003 12:26 PM To: Jerry; Ting, James Cc: list toasters Subject: RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator Think $500 per TOE and a $200 Linksys gigE switch, versus $1500+ per HBA and a $20,000 Brocade. Yeah, the iSCSI's a little bit cheaper. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:30 AM To: Ting, James Cc: list toasters Subject: RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator Wow. this is cool. But do the cards cost as much as getting HBA's for a SAN environment. In my situation, we are trying to judge the cost differences between using an existing SAN and testing cheaper iSCSI solutions (or what would appear cheaper). Plus, we like the Filer simplicity. --- "Ting, James" <james.ting(a)netapp.com> wrote: > qlogic 4010 or adaptec 7211. They handle the entire > iSCSI > stack on the card. Both vendors support fibre and > copper. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry [mailto:juanino@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:21 AM > To: Ting, James > Subject: RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator > > > When you say iSCSI HBA's, do you mean Fibre HBA's. > My > experience was with copper gig-e. > > --- "Ting, James" <james.ting(a)netapp.com> wrote: > > Jerry > > > > We haven't tested the Cisco Solaris initiator with > > our > > target. Several iSCSI HBA vendors plan to support > > Solaris > > (Qlogic, Adaptec). > > > > Glad to hear that your experience with iSCSI on > > Windows > > has been good. > > > > Jim Ting > > iSCSI Product Marketing > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry [mailto:juanino@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:50 AM > > To: list toasters > > Subject: Solaris iSCSI initiator > > > > > > I've been testing iSCSI on windows systems and the > > performance/reliability seems to be good. I was > > wondering if anyone knows why Solaris, or any of > the > > commercial unix vendors haven't jumped on board > with > > this. I noticed a cisco initiator for Solaris, > but > > I > > wonder if it even works with the netapp. If you > > call > > Sun, they are kinda clueless on iSCSI and don't > > really > > elaborate much in my experience. > > > > This is especially annoying since I notice linux > has > > some iscsi stuff. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > > search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > search > http://shopping.yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator
by Michael Christian 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

Think $500 per TOE and a $200 Linksys gigE switch, versus $1500+ per HBA and a $20,000 Brocade. Yeah, the iSCSI's a little bit cheaper. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:30 AM To: Ting, James Cc: list toasters Subject: RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator Wow. this is cool. But do the cards cost as much as getting HBA's for a SAN environment. In my situation, we are trying to judge the cost differences between using an existing SAN and testing cheaper iSCSI solutions (or what would appear cheaper). Plus, we like the Filer simplicity. --- "Ting, James" <james.ting(a)netapp.com> wrote: > qlogic 4010 or adaptec 7211. They handle the entire > iSCSI > stack on the card. Both vendors support fibre and > copper. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry [mailto:juanino@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:21 AM > To: Ting, James > Subject: RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator > > > When you say iSCSI HBA's, do you mean Fibre HBA's. > My > experience was with copper gig-e. > > --- "Ting, James" <james.ting(a)netapp.com> wrote: > > Jerry > > > > We haven't tested the Cisco Solaris initiator with > > our > > target. Several iSCSI HBA vendors plan to support > > Solaris > > (Qlogic, Adaptec). > > > > Glad to hear that your experience with iSCSI on > > Windows > > has been good. > > > > Jim Ting > > iSCSI Product Marketing > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry [mailto:juanino@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:50 AM > > To: list toasters > > Subject: Solaris iSCSI initiator > > > > > > I've been testing iSCSI on windows systems and the > > performance/reliability seems to be good. I was > > wondering if anyone knows why Solaris, or any of > the > > commercial unix vendors haven't jumped on board > with > > this. I noticed a cisco initiator for Solaris, > but > > I > > wonder if it even works with the netapp. If you > > call > > Sun, they are kinda clueless on iSCSI and don't > > really > > elaborate much in my experience. > > > > This is especially annoying since I notice linux > has > > some iscsi stuff. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > > search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > search > http://shopping.yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator
by Jerry 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

Wow. this is cool. But do the cards cost as much as getting HBA's for a SAN environment. In my situation, we are trying to judge the cost differences between using an existing SAN and testing cheaper iSCSI solutions (or what would appear cheaper). Plus, we like the Filer simplicity. --- "Ting, James" <james.ting(a)netapp.com> wrote: > qlogic 4010 or adaptec 7211. They handle the entire > iSCSI > stack on the card. Both vendors support fibre and > copper. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry [mailto:juanino@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:21 AM > To: Ting, James > Subject: RE: Solaris iSCSI initiator > > > When you say iSCSI HBA's, do you mean Fibre HBA's. > My > experience was with copper gig-e. > > --- "Ting, James" <james.ting(a)netapp.com> wrote: > > Jerry > > > > We haven't tested the Cisco Solaris initiator with > > our > > target. Several iSCSI HBA vendors plan to support > > Solaris > > (Qlogic, Adaptec). > > > > Glad to hear that your experience with iSCSI on > > Windows > > has been good. > > > > Jim Ting > > iSCSI Product Marketing > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry [mailto:juanino@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:50 AM > > To: list toasters > > Subject: Solaris iSCSI initiator > > > > > > I've been testing iSCSI on windows systems and the > > performance/reliability seems to be good. I was > > wondering if anyone knows why Solaris, or any of > the > > commercial unix vendors haven't jumped on board > with > > this. I noticed a cisco initiator for Solaris, > but > > I > > wonder if it even works with the netapp. If you > > call > > Sun, they are kinda clueless on iSCSI and don't > > really > > elaborate much in my experience. > > > > This is especially annoying since I notice linux > has > > some iscsi stuff. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > > search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > search > http://shopping.yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Solaris iSCSI initiator
by Jerry 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

I've been testing iSCSI on windows systems and the performance/reliability seems to be good. I was wondering if anyone knows why Solaris, or any of the commercial unix vendors haven't jumped on board with this. I noticed a cisco initiator for Solaris, but I wonder if it even works with the netapp. If you call Sun, they are kinda clueless on iSCSI and don't really elaborate much in my experience. This is especially annoying since I notice linux has some iscsi stuff. Any thoughts? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Direct connect Xover performance
by Robert Borowicz 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

I've just completed a direct connect private network connection between a Sun Fire V880 and my Filer FAS 940 for running Oracle over. I used the Sun Fire's 10/100 Copper and told the Filer to use FD/100. I've still got to verify the Sun "negotiated" appropriated with the Filer's NIC. What is your favorite rip snortin performance test writing to a Filer mount? I ran a ufsudmp of /usr and here are the numbers I was getting in sysstat. Comparable to what any of you have gotten best case? TIA -Rob CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 7% 283 0 0 9558 57 0 0 0 0 >60 8% 280 0 0 9414 57 0 0 0 0 >60 20% 276 0 0 9221 56 111 33405 0 0 >60 8% 285 0 0 9545 57 0 0 0 0 >60 8% 282 0 0 9523 57 0 0 0 0 >60 10% 277 0 0 9314 56 75 0 0 0 >60 19% 280 0 0 9413 57 84 36974 0 0 >60 7% 285 0 0 9593 58 0 0 0 0 >60 8% 281 1 0 9426 57 0 0 0 0 >60 18% 167 0 0 5544 34 159 35118 0 0 >60 7% 284 0 0 9555 57 0 0 0 0 >60 8% 284 0 0 9554 57 0 0 0 0 >60 8% 280 0 0 9403 56 0 0 0 0 >60 20% 277 0 0 9293 56 98 34350 0 0 >60 7% 285 0 0 9561 58 0 0 0 0 >60 8% 283 0 0 9503 57 0 0 0 0 >60 11% 276 0 0 9285 56 29 2564 0 0 >60 18% 279 0 0 9400 56 20 34472 0 0 >60 8% 286 0 0 9631 58 0 0 0 0 >60 8% 281 0 0 9479 57 0 0 0 0 >60 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 21% 273 0 0 9207 55 123 36570 0 0 >60

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