toasters March 2002

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Re: Use for bad drives
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Hello, John: There is a possibility that your "expired" NetApp drives can be repaired. Go to: http://www.seagate.com/support/service/warranty_validation.html Surprisingly, some NetApp disk drives -- but not all -- can actually be returned by the end user directly to Seagate for warranty repair! To extract the drive from the NetApp cannister, you simply have to remove the four Phillips head screws on top and gently slide it out. (If you don't get lucky on the Seagate warranty, we'd be happy to quote you an inexpensive replacement drive!) Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com In a message dated 3/8/2002 4:10:04 PM Central Standard Time, jcoke(a)ibeam.com writes: > I have a couple of expired 18GB FC drives and am wondering what to do with > the bodies. I do not want to throw them away because electronics are not > good for the environment. Does NetApp take them back for "recycling." I > don't really care about getting any money for them though I would like a > prepaid shipping container :-) > > John Coke > Information Security Specialist, Senior Hostmaster - RHCE, CCNA > Williams Communications > ph: 405.717.4895 > cell: 405.209.8519 > PGP fingerprint: 272F C31D 82C5 2C23 531F 65FF F56E 3951 C3B9 DB51 > PGP key ID 0xC3B9DB51 (pgp.mit.edu) > For your safety, this email has been encoded in double ROT13. > >

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DOT 6.1.2R1 dump|restore support on local tape library
by Brian Tao 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

What sort of support exists for manipulating tape libraries on a filer? I have an F740 running 6.1.2R1 in a heavy EMC environment using EDM for tape backup. I'm assuming EDM (being an EMC product) will not play well with the Netapp. I can attach an old Exabyte EXB-220 tape library (Mammoth-1 drive, 20 slots) to the F740's on-board SCSI. Given that there is no other backup hardware or software available, what can I do for backups? Is there an "mt" or other DOT command to control the robotics? The filer will eventually hold about 300GB, but I only need a short-term solution for now. First time with a direct-attached tape library... the docs don't say much about tape library support, only tape drives. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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RE: CIFS/NFS case sensitivity...
by Muhlestein, Mark 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

The problem isn't just with the server, it's the client as well. Any Unix-based NFS client will also operate in a case-sensitive manner, as far as I know. Some people have used smbfs (on Linux/BSD+others?) to do achieve case insensitivity, since that uses CIFS to access files. There is another Unix client filesystem called Sharity that can do this for Solaris and several other platforms, I think. I can't vouch for how these work with the filer, but I have heard of people successfully using them. These Unix CIFS filesystems have some definite limitations, but they may be ok for what you are doing. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Mikusko [mailto:guerilla@concentric.net] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:30 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: CIFS/NFS case sensitivity... > > > > > Reading info about case sensitivity and how the filer handles such via > CIFS & NFS clients, Netapp says that CIFS is case insensitive > (but case > preserving) and that NFS is case sensitive. > > Can one make NFS shared files NOT be case sensitive? > > I'm assuming this is just how NFS works, but wondered if > there was some > option that could be set that would allow NFS to ignore case > on the filer. > > > Any ideas on this would be appreciated. > > -Scott > > >

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Re: Use for bad drives
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Hi, Geoff: You're right -- the disk warranties are supposed to be in force only directly with NetApp, but we have been able to get RMAs from Seagate for a number of broken NetApp drives. It's hit or miss, but worth a minute to plug in the serial numbers in hopes of getting lucky! Regards, Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com In a message dated 3/11/2002 12:14:55 PM Central Standard Time, geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com writes: > According to Seagate's web site, they will not RMA the drives because > they were sold as a component to NetApp. The warranty only extends to > the original purchaser and is non-transferable. > > Of course, if you're feeling lucky, you could try to replace the disk > inside with another Seagate drive (they don't sell the model ST318203FC > in their on-line store). The closest I can find on the site is a model > ST318452FC. At $340, it may be worth the chance if it works, compared > to $1,100 to get a disk from NetApp. > > Geoff Hardin > geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com

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CIFS/NFS case sensitivity...
by Scott Mikusko 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Reading info about case sensitivity and how the filer handles such via CIFS & NFS clients, Netapp says that CIFS is case insensitive (but case preserving) and that NFS is case sensitive. Can one make NFS shared files NOT be case sensitive? I'm assuming this is just how NFS works, but wondered if there was some option that could be set that would allow NFS to ignore case on the filer. Any ideas on this would be appreciated. -Scott

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Re: Please help removing from mailing list
by Andrew Yee 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

>>> <lists(a)mathworks.com> Monday, October 15, 2001 11:40:19 AM >>> -- Welcome to the toasters mailing list! Please save this message for future reference. Thank you. If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to <lists(a)mathworks.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe toasters If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to <owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com> . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: This is a totally unofficial mailing list for people who have Network Appliance toasters. It is not blessed by Network Appliance; it is, in true Internet spirit, a pure resource and grapevine for toaster administrators. There is an archive of postings to the list available on the web, which is updated regularly. You can find this, and browse the collected wisdom and net.witterings of other toaster admins and netapp chaps / chappesses at http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/ . It's searchable through http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/Search.html . It's presently administered by Kendall Libby, <fubar(a)mathworks.com>. He has two F330s and an F760, in case you were wondering. Disclaimy bit: I hate reading bounced email. I'll remove people who start to bounce. >>> "Tim Horn" <thorn(a)synopsys.com> Monday, March 11, 2002 10:06:28 AM >>> Greetings, It seems that my email address has been mistakenly included in this mailing list. Could someone please forward this removal request to an administrator, or reply with removal instructions? Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

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Please help removing from mailing list
by Tim Horn 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Greetings, It seems that my email address has been mistakenly included in this mailing list. Could someone please forward this removal request to an administrator, or reply with removal instructions? Your assistance is greatly appreciated. ************************************* Tim Horn Manager, IT End User Support Synopsys, Inc. M/S 3A2.118B 2025 NW Cornelius Pass Road Hillsboro, OR 97124

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Re: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS
by BK LIM 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Hi Seth, Does Carrier Scan notified the user when they try to transfer an virus file to the filer? pop out window to show that the file has been infected by virus or has been cleared by the AV server? I have try on Netshield and ServerProtect, they don't alert the users. >From: "Seth Moskowitz" <sethmoskowitz(a)hotmail.com> >To: alf1650(a)hotmail.com, toasters(a)mathworks.com >Subject: Re: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:04:05 -0500 > >I am running Symantec Carrier Scan 2.1.3.19 on both NT and Win2k Servers. I >am seeing very good performance but I am also running them on the same >network as the Filers, the Win2K boxes have GB interfaces and the NT box >has >a trunct 200MB connection. I have been running on NT since last April with >no major issues. > > >>From: "BK LIM" <alf1650(a)hotmail.com> >>To: toasters(a)mathworks.com >>Subject: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS >>Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:53:54 +0800 >> >>Hi Toasters, >> >>Anyone using the Antivirus Software working with Netapp box right now? >>How is the performance? Good ? Any comment? >> >>Cheers, >>BK >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. >> > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS
by Seth Moskowitz 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

I am running Symantec Carrier Scan 2.1.3.19 on both NT and Win2k Servers. I am seeing very good performance but I am also running them on the same network as the Filers, the Win2K boxes have GB interfaces and the NT box has a trunct 200MB connection. I have been running on NT since last April with no major issues. >From: "BK LIM" <alf1650(a)hotmail.com> >To: toasters(a)mathworks.com >Subject: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS >Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:53:54 +0800 > >Hi Toasters, > >Anyone using the Antivirus Software working with Netapp box right now? >How is the performance? Good ? Any comment? > >Cheers, >BK > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: Hidden .snapshot on NFS?
by Mike Schiraldi 09 Mar '02

09 Mar '02

> try this. > vol options vol0 nosnapdir on > should be able to work This appears to completely disable the directory -- i can't even cd into it. I've been on systems where you didn't see it in, say, ls, but you could still change into the directory: $ ls .snapshot ls: .snapshot: No such file or directory $ cd .snapshot $ ls hourly.0 hourly.2 [snip] However, our installation can't do that. Has anyone been able to get this behavior over NFS?

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