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RE: Novell integration/migration experiences
by Benn, Paul 18 May '01

18 May '01

Having lived through a NetWare to NT migration at a previous employer I can share a few tidbits with you. You're gonna have to bite the bullet because moving the data and shares over is a manual process. If you haven't already done so, you'll need to have your NT or Win2K domain in place and dual redirectors installed (and working) on the client machines (more on this in the white paper referenced below). You can migrate the user home directories over in smaller (perhaps departmental) groups. I don't know how receptive your team is to working weekends but we split up into teams and alternated Saturday shifts so that when the users came in on Monday, everything was migrated. There are some tools, though, to facilitate migrating NDS user accounts over to Active Directory. We've not used them in-house but here are a few names you might want to look into: Netvision: Synchronicity NetIQ: Netware Migrator Microsoft: as I recall they also have an NDS->AD tool available. Check out this article (product recommendations in the side bar): http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO52669,00.html Don't know if you've already seen this but perhaps you can glean a few pearls of wisdom by giving a quick scan: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3053.html Regards, Paul Benn Network Appliance -----Original Message----- From: Ambrose_Earle(a)shamrockfoods.com [mailto:Ambrose_Earle@shamrockfoods.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:46 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Novell integration/migration experiences Anyone out there have any war stories about integrating and then migrating user shares from Netware to a filer and then ultimately to an NT-only environment that they'd like to share?

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RE: Hardware Upgrade
by Fox, Adam 17 May '01

17 May '01

6.1 System Admin Guide page 131. You can get the 6.1 SysAdmin Guide from NOW. Enjoy! -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:03 PM > To: Fox, Adam > Cc: 'Jeffrey Krueger'; 'Honeycutt, Michael'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: Re: Hardware Upgrade > > > Could you point us at the relevent documentation that > describes this? I've > been searching NOW and haven't come up with it yet. > > Thanks! > > -- Jeff > > > On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 12:06:18PM -0700, Fox, Adam wrote: > > I haven't received an explanation for it and honestly > > thought it sounded reasonable. It may work under another > > config, but I would think for the vast majority of configs, > > it shouldn't be a problem, especially that if you use the > > dual fiber cards, you get a fiber link for the first hop > > anyway. > > > > If at all possible, I would wire it up that way just to > > stay within the known good configs. > > > > -- Adam Fox > > NetApp Professional Services, NC > > adamfox(a)netapp.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:45 PM > > > To: Fox, Adam > > > Cc: 'Honeycutt, Michael'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > > > Subject: Re: Hardware Upgrade > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 12:49:40PM -0700, Fox, Adam wrote: > > > > It is suggested if you are hooking up a dual path loop that the > > > > B loop start at the opposite end of the loop as the A loop. In > > > > other words, the B loop starts on the last shelf on the A loop > > > > and works it's way back. > > > > > > Why is that loop configuration suggested? > > > > > > -- Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: NDS for NT
by Thomas.L.White＠chase.com 17 May '01

17 May '01

Has anyone implemented the NDS for NT in their environment for authenticating access to files on the NeApp filers ?? thanks tw

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RE: DLT8000's on 840
by Hu, Chang-Ping 17 May '01

17 May '01

The parameter listed for DLT8000 is incorrect in 6.0.1. This has been fixed in 6.0.2 (burt#35779.) To fully utilize the capacity of DLT8000, you should upgrade your ONTAP. C.P. Hu -----Original Message----- From: Leonard, Roger [mailto:Roger.Leonard@marconi.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:22 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: DLT8000's on 840 I am setting up a new STK library with DLT8000 drives and my 840 with 6.01 mt status gives me this: Tape drive: Quantum DLT8000 Status: ready, write enabled Format: 85937 bpi 70 GB (w/comp) fileno = 0 blockno = 0 resid = 0 does this mean that it won't recognize the additional 5/10GB provided by the DLT8000 versus DLT7000? do i need an Ontap upgrade to see the additional space? roger leonard marconi.com

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Re: Hardware Upgrade
by Jeffrey Krueger 17 May '01

17 May '01

Could you point us at the relevent documentation that describes this? I've been searching NOW and haven't come up with it yet. Thanks! -- Jeff On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 12:06:18PM -0700, Fox, Adam wrote: > I haven't received an explanation for it and honestly > thought it sounded reasonable. It may work under another > config, but I would think for the vast majority of configs, > it shouldn't be a problem, especially that if you use the > dual fiber cards, you get a fiber link for the first hop > anyway. > > If at all possible, I would wire it up that way just to > stay within the known good configs. > > -- Adam Fox > NetApp Professional Services, NC > adamfox(a)netapp.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:45 PM > > To: Fox, Adam > > Cc: 'Honeycutt, Michael'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > > Subject: Re: Hardware Upgrade > > > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 12:49:40PM -0700, Fox, Adam wrote: > > > It is suggested if you are hooking up a dual path loop that the > > > B loop start at the opposite end of the loop as the A loop. In > > > other words, the B loop starts on the last shelf on the A loop > > > and works it's way back. > > > > Why is that loop configuration suggested? > > > > -- Jeff > > > > > > >

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RE: DLT8000's on 840
by Fox, Adam 17 May '01

17 May '01

This is a known bug 35779. According to NOW, it's fixed in 6.0.2, 6.1, and 6.1R1. Hope this helps. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Leonard, Roger [mailto:Roger.Leonard@marconi.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:22 PM > To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: DLT8000's on 840 > > > I am setting up a new STK library with DLT8000 drives and my > 840 with 6.01 > mt status gives me this: > > Tape drive: Quantum DLT8000 > Status: ready, write enabled > Format: 85937 bpi 70 GB (w/comp) > fileno = 0 blockno = 0 resid = 0 > > does this mean that it won't recognize the additional 5/10GB > provided by the > DLT8000 versus DLT7000? do i need an Ontap upgrade to see > the additional > space? > > roger leonard > marconi.com >

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RE: Hardware Upgrade
by Fox, Adam 17 May '01

17 May '01

There is really nothing magical about this, except that you must be running at least 6.1 (I suggest 6.1R1 as it has some really good fixes in it, but that's not really relevent to this topic). Basically, for non-clustered filers, if the filer detects and A and B loop on the same shelf, then it assumes dual path. If you have two A loops on different shelves, it assumes a single path. It is suggested if you are hooking up a dual path loop that the B loop start at the opposite end of the loop as the A loop. In other words, the B loop starts on the last shelf on the A loop and works it's way back. Once the filer is brought up, you can view this with the new 'storage' command in 6.1. filer> storage show disk -p Is a good start. This will show you which disks are on the A loop and which disks are on the B loop. There really isn't much to it. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Honeycutt, Michael [mailto:MichaelHoneycutt@NC.SLR.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:00 AM > To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: Hardware Upgrade > > > Anyone upgraded to the new dual port fcal's yet? Looking for > some info on > what options/config changes would have to be made after the cards are > installed. Should the filer just recognize that the cards are > there and > automatically set up the second loop? Anyone at NetApp with > documentation > that could be supplied would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Michael Honeycutt > MCSE/A+ > NT/Exchange Engineer > IBM Global Services >

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RE: A more selective bugwatch on NOW?
by La Londe, Renee 17 May '01

17 May '01

Hi Chris, The ability watch a bug that affects both ONTAP and Netcache and only get alerted about fixes in one of the products does not exist today. However, this is a great suggestion moving forward! Thanks for the feedback. We've added this request to our project list and will work to get that functionality added soon. We'll get back to you when we know the exact date that the changes will be implemented. Thanks again, Renee Get answers NOW (Netapp on the Web) http://now.netapp.com Renee La Londe Direcor, E-Service Network Appliance, Inc renee(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Chris Thompson [mailto:cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:59 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: A more selective bugwatch? Does anoyone know if it is possible to watch a bug that affects both Data ONTAP and NetCache in such a way that one only gets alerted about fixes in one of the products, and not the other? The Netcache alerts tend to overwhelm one if one is interested only in the DOT ones, as they seem to be issued for each patch release - or so I assume from names like "5.0.1R2D8". Chris Thompson University of Cambridge Computing Service, Email: cet1(a)ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, Phone: +44 1223 334715 United Kingdom.

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DLT8000's on 840
by Leonard, Roger 17 May '01

17 May '01

I am setting up a new STK library with DLT8000 drives and my 840 with 6.01 mt status gives me this: Tape drive: Quantum DLT8000 Status: ready, write enabled Format: 85937 bpi 70 GB (w/comp) fileno = 0 blockno = 0 resid = 0 does this mean that it won't recognize the additional 5/10GB provided by the DLT8000 versus DLT7000? do i need an Ontap upgrade to see the additional space? roger leonard marconi.com

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Novell integration/migration experiences
by Ambrose_Earle＠shamrockfoods.com 17 May '01

17 May '01

Anyone out there have any war stories about integrating and then migrating user shares from Netware to a filer and then ultimately to an NT-only environment that they'd like to share?

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