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AIT2 50G tapes
by Brian Hostetter 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

I just installed a Qualstar 4660 AIT2 changer with the new 50G native tapes. However my filer only has options for AIT1 25G tapes and AIT2 36G tapes. They are the same basic tape, just a shorter length. Anyone used the 50G tapes yet? --Brian

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RE: Implementing User and Group Quotas
by mark.muhlestein＠netapp.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

A couple of things to be aware of: * You can't convert an existing directory to a qtree so you might have to move some things around. * Make sure your NT users are mapping to distinct UNIX users. By default, if there is no UNIX user corresponding to an NT user those users are mapped to "pcuser". That's not what you want because all NT users will have the same quota since quotas are currently only allowed for UNIX security objects. You can test the mappings using the "wcc" filer console command. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Mohler,Anissa > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:50 AM > To: daniel(a)sprintlabs.com > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: Implementing User and Group Quotas > > > Daniel... two brief answers to your questions. > > #1. You do not have to start from scratch and create two > volumes. You can create > the quotas you want using qtrees. In fact for maximum > performance you would be > best off with the one larger volume than two smaller ones given the > configuration you described. > > #2. The filer's native dump command works for directories > (qtrees) as well as > entire volumes. Just remember when you go to restore a qtree > you will need to > create the qtree first, then run the restore. > > The Data ONTAP System Administrator's Guide and the NOW site > both have more > detailed information on configuring qtrees and running > dump/restore. I'm sure > the other toaster users here can offer great information > about what is working > (or not working) for them. > > :-----Original Message----- > :From: Daniel Oxenhandler [mailto:daniel@sprintlabs.com] > :Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:14 AM > :To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > :Subject: Implementing User and Group Quotas > : > : > :Friends, > : > :We have an F-740 with 14 - 18GB drives (2 hot spares) > configured as one > :large volume. OnTap version 5.3.4R2. Security style is > :mixed. Currently it is being used by mostly UNIX users, > with some Windows > :users, for Home directories and Project directories. There > are only about 15 > :total active users on the Filer currently. The plan is to > move the home > :directories for the remaining 60 or so mostly Windows users > onto the Filer. > : > :We would like to implement quotas on the Home directories, > :e.g. 150MB per user. At the same time, we would like to > implement quotas on > :the Project directories -- my thinking is we would do this > via a group > :quota, e.g. 5GB for Group A, 15GB for Group B, etc. > : > :My questions are as follows: > : > :1. Will we need to create separate volumes for Home dir's and > :Projects, so that the quotas will work as we intend (e.g. a > user can own > :files in his Project directory without it counting against > his User quota) > :-- or can we get away with qtrees? My suspicion is that we > will need to start > from > :scratch and create at least two volumes to do this. > : > :2. Suggestions for the best strategy to accomplish this, > :maintaining all CIFS & NFS metadata? We are currently > dumping the filer as > :one big volume to DLT (<35GB). Does the filer's dump > command support dump from > a > :directory, so that we could restore to our new volumes or > qtrees? Any other > :strategies? > : > :Thanks in advance! > : > :Daniel Oxenhandler > :Network Engineer > :Sprint Laboratories > :650-375-4281 >

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RE: Implementing User and Group Quotas
by Anissa.Mohler＠netapp.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Daniel... two brief answers to your questions. #1. You do not have to start from scratch and create two volumes. You can create the quotas you want using qtrees. In fact for maximum performance you would be best off with the one larger volume than two smaller ones given the configuration you described. #2. The filer's native dump command works for directories (qtrees) as well as entire volumes. Just remember when you go to restore a qtree you will need to create the qtree first, then run the restore. The Data ONTAP System Administrator's Guide and the NOW site both have more detailed information on configuring qtrees and running dump/restore. I'm sure the other toaster users here can offer great information about what is working (or not working) for them. :-----Original Message----- :From: Daniel Oxenhandler [mailto:daniel@sprintlabs.com] :Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:14 AM :To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' :Subject: Implementing User and Group Quotas : : :Friends, : :We have an F-740 with 14 - 18GB drives (2 hot spares) configured as one :large volume. OnTap version 5.3.4R2. Security style is :mixed. Currently it is being used by mostly UNIX users, with some Windows :users, for Home directories and Project directories. There are only about 15 :total active users on the Filer currently. The plan is to move the home :directories for the remaining 60 or so mostly Windows users onto the Filer. : :We would like to implement quotas on the Home directories, :e.g. 150MB per user. At the same time, we would like to implement quotas on :the Project directories -- my thinking is we would do this via a group :quota, e.g. 5GB for Group A, 15GB for Group B, etc. : :My questions are as follows: : :1. Will we need to create separate volumes for Home dir's and :Projects, so that the quotas will work as we intend (e.g. a user can own :files in his Project directory without it counting against his User quota) :-- or can we get away with qtrees? My suspicion is that we will need to start from :scratch and create at least two volumes to do this. : :2. Suggestions for the best strategy to accomplish this, :maintaining all CIFS & NFS metadata? We are currently dumping the filer as :one big volume to DLT (<35GB). Does the filer's dump command support dump from a :directory, so that we could restore to our new volumes or qtrees? Any other :strategies? : :Thanks in advance! : :Daniel Oxenhandler :Network Engineer :Sprint Laboratories :650-375-4281

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Re: Toasters
by Eyal Traitel 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Send a message to majordomo(a)mathworks.com with a body of "subscribe toasters" or "help" to get help on majordomo. Can someone from Mathworks add to every email of the mailing list some line about it ? In cramsession.com they do it, and it's very nice... Eyal. --- Robby Pedrica <robby(a)ct.cash.co.za> wrote: > Dear Toasters, > > Is it possible you could send me info on how to join > the Toasters newsgroup ... > > Regards > > Robby Pedrica > Support Consultant > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Maxtec --- OWS --- CAD/CAM > 10 Warbler Close, Montague Gardens > Cape Town, South Africa, 7441 > > Tel: +27 21 555 1402 > Fax: +27 21 555 1404 > ----------------------------------- > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:2.1 > N:Pedrica;Robby > FN:Robby Pedrica > ORG:Maxtec | OWS | CAD/CAM;ESS > TITLE:Support Consultant > NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:--- Network Appliance > ---=0D=0A--- Cobalt ---=0D=0A--- Alteon ---=0D=0A--- > C= > ycle --- > TEL;WORK;VOICE:+27 8241 68696 > TEL;WORK;FAX:+27 21 5551404 > ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;+27 21 > 5551402;10 Warbler Close=0D=0AMontague Gardens;Cape > Town;;;South Afr= > ica > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:+27 21 > 5551402=0D=0A10 Warbler Close=0D=0AMontague > Gardens=0D=0ACape Town= > =0D=0ASouth Africa > ADR;HOME:;;;Cape Town;;7441;South Africa > LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Cape Town > 7441=0D=0ASouth Africa > X-WAB-GENDER:2 > URL: > URL:http://www.maxtec.co.za/ > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:robby@ct.cash.co.za > REV:20000626T143811Z > END:VCARD > ===== Yours, Eyal Traitel eTraitel(a)yahoo.com, Home: 972-3-5290415 (Tel Aviv) eTraitel - it's the new eBuzzword ! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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RE: PCNFS file/directory permission.
by Adam.Fox＠netapp.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

There is probably a way to do it via PC-NFS, but you can also use a free NT tool from NetApp called SecureShare Access. It's a dll that is used by things like Windows Explorer. It's a tab like the security tab for windows. Give it a try if you like. http://now.netapp.com/NOW/tools/supported.shtml It's near the bottom. Don't confuse it with the Account Migrator, you want the SecureShare Access. I use it all the time! -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Amy Cheng [mailto:amy.cheng@motorola.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:29 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: PCNFS file/directory permission. > > > Hi forks, > > I have known how to export filer to PC with PCNFS software, would you > please tell me how to control unix file permission under > NT environment? > > Thanks > > Amy >

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RE: Toasters
by Brassart, Alain 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Please remove immediately my mane from this mailing list. This is a violation to create mailing list without green light of the person concerned -----Original Message----- From: Eyal Traitel [mailto:etraitel@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 7:03 AM To: Robby Pedrica; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Toasters Send a message to majordomo(a)mathworks.com with a body of "subscribe toasters" or "help" to get help on majordomo. Can someone from Mathworks add to every email of the mailing list some line about it ? In cramsession.com they do it, and it's very nice... Eyal. --- Robby Pedrica <robby(a)ct.cash.co.za> wrote: > Dear Toasters, > > Is it possible you could send me info on how to join > the Toasters newsgroup ... > > Regards > > Robby Pedrica > Support Consultant > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Maxtec --- OWS --- CAD/CAM > 10 Warbler Close, Montague Gardens > Cape Town, South Africa, 7441 > > Tel: +27 21 555 1402 > Fax: +27 21 555 1404 > ----------------------------------- > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:2.1 > N:Pedrica;Robby > FN:Robby Pedrica > ORG:Maxtec | OWS | CAD/CAM;ESS > TITLE:Support Consultant > NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:--- Network Appliance > ---=0D=0A--- Cobalt ---=0D=0A--- Alteon ---=0D=0A--- > C= > ycle --- > TEL;WORK;VOICE:+27 8241 68696 > TEL;WORK;FAX:+27 21 5551404 > ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;+27 21 > 5551402;10 Warbler Close=0D=0AMontague Gardens;Cape > Town;;;South Afr= > ica > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:+27 21 > 5551402=0D=0A10 Warbler Close=0D=0AMontague > Gardens=0D=0ACape Town= > =0D=0ASouth Africa > ADR;HOME:;;;Cape Town;;7441;South Africa > LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Cape Town > 7441=0D=0ASouth Africa > X-WAB-GENDER:2 > URL: > URL:http://www.maxtec.co.za/ > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:robby@ct.cash.co.za > REV:20000626T143811Z > END:VCARD > ===== Yours, Eyal Traitel eTraitel(a)yahoo.com, Home: 972-3-5290415 (Tel Aviv) eTraitel - it's the new eBuzzword ! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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PCNFS file/directory permission.
by Amy Cheng 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Hi forks, I have known how to export filer to PC with PCNFS software, would you please tell me how to control unix file permission under NT environment? Thanks Amy

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RE: Problem in symbolic links
by mark.muhlestein＠netapp.com 26 Jun '00

26 Jun '00

The cifs.symlinks.enable option just controls whether or not symlinks are followed by CIFS client access. Pre-existing symlinks are fine. Typical problems with CIFS and symlinks are * By default the filer will not follow symbolic links which result in cyclic directory structure. Since CIFS clients don't understand symlinks, we display them as if they were the same object as the destination of the symlink. Programs like "FastFind", which tries to index directories, wind up getting very confused if you have symlinks that refer to directories above the current one. If it is critical to follow such symlinks anyway, you can turn off the cifs.symlinks.cycleguard option. * Symlinks that leave the share are not permitted. That is because it would violate the share-level permissions, or even allow access to portions of the filesystem that were not intended to be shared. Also, symlinks that refer to destinations off the filer are not supported. These types of symlinks however will be supported in the near future using a secure method. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Derek Kelly [mailto:derek.kelly@genomecorp.com] > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 7:05 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: Problem in symbolic links > > > Is it possible that the option only works with symlinks > created *after* > the option is enabled? > > Derek Kelly > Genomecorp > > > On 6/26/00 at 4:16 AM, abond(a)netapp.com wrote: > > > The option name is actually cifs.symlinks.enable > > > > You may also need to look at cifs.symlinks.cycleguard if > the symlinks > > start with > > .. or .. > > > > Also you may need to create/modify /etc/symlink.translations if the > path > > the > > unix clients follow is not the same path the filer would have to > follow. > > > > See the manpages for options and symlink.translations for > more detail. > > > > Andrew > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: bhaskar.g(a)philips.com [mailto:bhaskar.g@philips.com] > > > Sent: 26 June 2000 12:03 > > > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > > > Subject: Problem in symbolic links > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We are facing problem in accessing the Doc files which are > > > symbolic links on the Netapp box from a PC. > > > Please can you let us know how to access that. We tried with > > > the option > > > > > > option cifs.symlink.enable on/off > > > also but without success. > > > > > > kind regards > > > > > > Bhaskar G > > > Philips Semiconductors, > > > #3, Sterling Square,Madras Bank Road, > > > Off St Mark's Road,BANGALORE-560 001. > > > Voice : +91 80 222 9200 Ext 5060 > > > Fax: +91 80 2229700 > > > > [dkelly(a)genomecorp.com - CSSG] > If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kickboxing. > >

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RE: A question about /etc/log/httpd.log
by Andy.Hatcher＠netapp.com 26 Jun '00

26 Jun '00

The http log is bufferred in a 16k memory buffer but should be flushed to disk no less often than once a minute. If this isn't happening, please report it as a bug and be sure to include your OnTap version. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Thompson [mailto:cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 7:31 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: A question about /etc/log/httpd.log > > > We run an F740 which is not licensed for HTTP. Nevertheless, > it listens > on port 80 and rejects all requests with a "503 HTTP not enabled", and > also logs them in /etc/log/httpd.log. That's actually > sometimes convenient, > as it shows up hackers doing site-wide scans for WWW > exposures, without > them being too lost in noise. > > However, there's a peculiarity about the way > /etc/log/httpd.log is written > which I would like to understand better. It seems as though > entries are > often not actually written for hours or even days, until a cluster of > entries (typically those from our own "friendly probing" > service!) fills > up some sort of buffer. > > Chris Thompson University of Cambridge > Computing Service, > Email: cet1(a)ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, > Phone: +44 1223 334715 United Kingdom. >

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Toasters
by robby＠ct.cash.co.za 26 Jun '00

26 Jun '00

Dear Toasters, Is it possible you could send me info on how to join the Toasters newsgroup ... Regards Robby Pedrica Support Consultant ------------------------------------------------------------ Maxtec --- OWS --- CAD/CAM 10 Warbler Close, Montague Gardens Cape Town, South Africa, 7441 Tel: +27 21 555 1402 Fax: +27 21 555 1404 -----------------------------------

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