toasters June 2000

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RE: NAS solutions from Sun?
by howie.wilcox＠netapp.com 05 Jun '00

05 Jun '00

Hi Folks, There seems to be not very much that would be considered "filer" or "appliance" in SUN's new N8200. A closer loo reveals that SUN's new "filer" is apparently a SUN server and A1000 storage array bundled into one marketing code. They have been shipping the A1000 technology in various forms for quite a while now. This is the stuff that they OEM from Symbios Logic/LSI/MetaStor. Its pretty much a standard SUN server and direct attached storage that the SUN marketing guys are calling a "filer". Howie -----Original Message----- From: Ishankov, Alex [mailto:Alex.Ishankov@BMO.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:13 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: NAS solutions from Sun? Hi - Does anybody know anything about recently announced NAS solution from Sun Sun StorEdge N8200 filer (http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2000-05/sunflash.20000530.1.html) and if it is just an adopted version of Network Appliance filer? Thanks

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looking at performance data
by Gregory T Rotunda 05 Jun '00

05 Jun '00

We have F720. I clocked the filer with statit and wafl_susp commands and I'm looking at the output. Is there somewhere I can get some documentation to help me understand what I'm looking at? I know what some of the different things are, i.e. CP from CP, but I'm wondering if there are some detailed docs out there somewhere. I took a brief look at the NOW site but couldn't find anything... Greg

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RE: Filer Question
by David.Bulfer＠netapp.com 05 Jun '00

05 Jun '00

Why? The FC specification allows the "funky" HSSDC and the DB-9. When we started shipping FC, the DB-9 was by far the most prevalent and it is a good reliable connector. We had also heard rumor that the HSSDC was not as reliable. (We have never seen any real data, including our own experience to date, to back that up.) We have stayed with the DB-9 for consistency (i.e., less confusion in the field). We use the HSSDC on the adapter because that is what is on the adapter. David Bulfer Director of Systems Architecture Network Appliance, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Orr [mailto:orrjl@stl.nexen.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:41 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Filer Question Not that serious a question, but we just got a new F720 and was wondering why the Fibre card has the funky connector on it, but the filer and the trays have a 9-pin connector? I would think as much as the box was idiot-proofed they would of at least used a different connector for the shelves then from the serial devices.... Anyone know? Just curious... ----------- Jay Orr Systems Administrator Fujitsu Nexion Inc. St. Louis, MO

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RE: UK Customs problems
by abond＠netapp.com 05 Jun '00

05 Jun '00

Hi Dave, The normal process for replacement parts is that they are shipped from NetApp's European Support Centre in the Netherlands (CSEURO), and so no VAT should be payable. If you are in Europe and need any replacment parts, please ask that they be shipped from CSEURO. If parts are shipped from the USA, it is possible to avoid paying the VAT if the correct import processes are followed and the paperwork for the replaced goods when exported are tied up with that for the imported ones - however, this is much more complex and doesn't always work. Hopefully your reseller will be able to resolve this. Regards, Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dl-toasters(a)netapp.com > [mailto:owner-dl-toasters@netapp.com]On Behalf Of Dave Atkin > Sent: 05 June 2000 09:53 > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: UK Customs problems > > > We just received some replacement LRC cards for our FC8 > shelves, but I've > had endless conversations with Federal Express about VAT. > > Apparently because they are new parts, UK Customs require VAT > to be paid > on them (Universities can't generally reclaim VAT). The fact > that they are > warranty replacements seems to make no difference. > > I'm trying to get our reseller to sort this out but it would be really > helpful if Netapp could do someting with the paperwork to > avoid this in > the future when they ship replacement parts to us. > > Dave Atkin > -- > Dave Atkin, Head of Technical Services > Computing Service, University of York, YORK YO10 5DD > Phone: +44-1904-433804 (ddi) Fax: +44-1904-433740 > Email: D.Atkin(a)york.ac.uk > > >

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re: FW: NAS solutions from Sun?
by erhard.raible＠netapp.com 05 Jun '00

05 Jun '00

Sun's N8xxx is a repackaged NetraNFS and a great advertisement for NetApp nothing else: please see att web side: http://www.sun.com/storage/n8200/specs.html Hardware/Software Specifications N8200: ======================================== Operating environment Solaris(tm) Operating Environment 7 Standard software Integrated RAID Manager with hot-spare support; Telnet, NIS, NIS+, DNS, SNMP, Web browser preconfigured Installation time 10 minutes or less Network protocol support NFS v2/v3 over UDP or TCP, CIFS ECC memory 2048 MB Nonvolatile memory 64 MB (per storage controller) PCI expansion capacity Two Slots Optional PCI connectivity Single 10/100 Base-T Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet Disk drives 18-GB UltraSCSI RAID storage capacity Minimum 18-GB SCSI drives 12 (10,000 rpm) Maximum 18-GB SCSI drives 48 (10,000 rpm) Storage capacity 800 GB File systems One per Sun StorEdge N8200 NAS array RAID level Hardware RAID 5 Maximum RAID group size 11 data/1 parity Erhard -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Sterling Woodcock [mailto:sirbruce@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Montag, 5. Juni 2000 06:24 To: Brian Tao; Wilcox, Howie Cc: Alex.Ishankov(a)BMO.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: NAS solutions from Sun? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Tao" <taob(a)risc.org> To: <howie.wilcox(a)netapp.com> Cc: <Alex.Ishankov(a)BMO.com>; <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 6:51 PM Subject: RE: NAS solutions from Sun? > On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 howie.wilcox(a)netapp.com wrote: > > > > There seems to be not very much that would be considered "filer" or > > "appliance" in SUN's new N8200. A closer loo reveals that SUN's new > > "filer" is apparently a SUN server and A1000 storage array bundled > > into one marketing code. > > So basically another kick at the Netra NFS bucket (Ultra-1 + > integrated multipack)? I see they mention Network Appliance > specifically too... about time they noticed. ;-) Don't forget Netra NFS was supposed to "eat Netapp's lunch", or so they said. Bruce

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RE: 18G disk and 36G disk coexist on Netapp 720 Filer ?
by Anissa.Mohler＠netapp.com 05 Jun '00

05 Jun '00

Amy, In a word, yes. You can use both 18 and 36G drives in a F720. The 36G drives require the FC9 shelf (which can also hold 18G drives). You can check the System Configuration guide on NOW http://now.netapp.com/ for part numbers and disks and shelves supported. As far as feasibiltiy is concerned... what do you want to do with it? what is your existing configuration? You won't be able to exceed 504 GB no matter what types of disks you use. Anissa -----Original Message----- From: Amy Cheng [mailto:amy.cheng@motorola.com] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:22 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Cc: Mandy Meng (r47701); Simon Zhao (r42552) Subject: 18G disk and 36G disk coexist on Netapp 720 Filer ? Hi forks, I wondor whether it is feasible to use 18G disks and 36G disks on a F720 filer. Does anybody have experience on it ? Thanks Best Regards Amy

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18G disk and 36G disk coexist on Netapp 720 Filer ?
by Amy Cheng 05 Jun '00

05 Jun '00

Hi forks, I wondor whether it is feasible to use 18G disks and 36G disks on a F720 filer. Does anybody have experience on it ? Thanks Best Regards Amy

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HELP
by Ebru Bayýndýr 02 Jun '00

02 Jun '00

Hello there, I am the system administrator for the Earth Sciences Research Institute of TUBITAK. I am in need of urgent help to bring up our main computing server. We have a Sun enterprise 450 NIS server sytem that operates under Solaris 2.6. We have a vital problem about our Raid Disk system, which contains valuable earthquake data from the recent earthquakes in Turkey. Here is the story; I had successfully install 6 disks (9gb) into a single 54 GB file system using Solstice Disk Suite 4.1 tool. We have used this file system for about a year now. We had each disk unit taken out from its slot during a maintanence of the system. Now, we have mixed up the order of disks i.e. which disk belongs to which slot is unknown!!... Naturally, the system will not reboot successfully. I am wondering if there is anyone out there has come across such a problem and been able to fix it... I would greatly appreciate your comments and help on this matter... -- ------------------------ Ebru TAN E-Mail : bebru(a)mam.gov.tr TUBITAK MAM Is tel :(262) 646 63 55/391 Yer Bilimleri Arastirma Enstitüsü Is tel :(262) 641 23 00/4300 PK 21 41470 Gebze/KOCAELI

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RE: NAS solutions from Sun?
by erhard.raible＠netapp.com 02 Jun '00

02 Jun '00

it seems, this is "old staff in a new packing" > a tuned solaris server plus low cost scsi disks an other name for the "netraNFS" servers from 1996 season -----Original Message----- From: Ishankov, Alex [mailto:Alex.Ishankov@BMO.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2000 19:13 To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: NAS solutions from Sun? Hi - Does anybody know anything about recently announced NAS solution from Sun Sun StorEdge N8200 filer (http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2000-05/sunflash.20000530.1.html) and if it is just an adopted version of Network Appliance filer? Thanks

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NAS solutions from Sun?
by Ishankov, Alex 01 Jun '00

01 Jun '00

Hi - Does anybody know anything about recently announced NAS solution from Sun Sun StorEdge N8200 filer (http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2000-05/sunflash.20000530.1.html) and if it is just an adopted version of Network Appliance filer? Thanks

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