toasters June 2000

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Creating a volume offline
by Cliff Nadler 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

I've looked through the docs, and I can't find how to create a volume so that it will be offline when created. I'm needing this to move some data from one set of disks on a filer to another using vol copy (where the target needs to be offline). And since this particular filer currently contains some database files and our common executable repository, I'm loathe to reboot it just to take a volume offline. Any ideas? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cliff Nadler Collective Technologies, Inc. (a Pencom Company) cnadler(a)colltech.com (617)-443-1144 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To win, you must treat a pressure situation as an opportunity to succeed, not an opportunity to fail Gardner Dickinson

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F720 Cluster
by Uros Lampret 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

Is it really not possible to Cluster two F720?

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09 Jun '00

Is there a way of displaying a message, when telneting to the toaster, before entering (username),password? On solaris this can be fixed in at least two ways. The reason for this question is that apparently there is no legal way of punishing someone who breaks into the computer if there isn´t a sign that says that it is illegal to enter. ----- Mats

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time navigator
by Timothy Cook 08 Jun '00

08 Jun '00

I am currently looking at several backup solutions for my netapp filers. One of these is "Time Navigator" by Quadratec. Is anybody familiar with this product and willing to share an opinion? Any success or failure testimonials? tia tim cook tcook(a)joy.com

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RE: DLT 8000
by Darleen.Cormier＠netapp.com 08 Jun '00

08 Jun '00

Hi Uros, The F700 series will support the DLT8000 in an emulation mode, if your DLT drive is an HVD model, not LVD or SE. That's on the hardware side. On the software side, the DLT8000 will not be supported until the next release of software, so you will have to emulate a DLT7000 until then. You do that by creating an entry in the /etc/cloned_tapes file, that says DLT8000 EMULATES DLT7000 Be aware that the DLT8000 will now act like a DLT7000, so you will only get the same speed and capacity of a 7000, not the 8000. Once the new software is released, you can remove that entry and the drive will act like a normal 8000. -----Original Message----- From: Uros Lampret [mailto:uros.lampret@ourspace.si] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:03 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> Subject: DLT 8000 Does anybody know if F700 series supports DLT 8000 on the onboard SCSI port ?

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DLT 8000
by Uros Lampret 08 Jun '00

08 Jun '00

Does anybody know if F700 series supports DLT 8000 on the onboard SCSI port ?

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RE: BudTool incremental backups behaving differently when using N DMP
by Andy.Hatcher＠netapp.com 08 Jun '00

08 Jun '00

Bug 21837 did not require a change to Legato. The change was completely in OnTap. The question was semantics ctime is the inode change time. [i.e. changes associated with the inode should update the ctime field.] The access time is also part of the inode. Therefore in the strict sense of things, ctime should be updated when the access time is updated. However, backup programs are the only ones likely to explicitly change access time and for those types of applications updating the inode change time doesn't make much sense. Backup programs usually try to set all the times explicitly. Greg is pretty new (and a manager) and hopefully you can forgive him. :) -----Original Message----- From: Matt Phelps [mailto:mphelps@cfa.harvard.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:07 AM To: Linn, Greg Cc: cet1(a)cus.cam.ac.uk; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: BudTool incremental backups behaving differently when using NDMP Greg.Linn(a)netapp.com wrote: > > I believe that Matt's problem is different from bug ID 21837. > > 21837 was identified during investigation of a Legato Networker problem where > ctime was being updated inappropriately. The net effect of this was that files > that hadn't changed were being processed as if they had. I believe that Matt's > problem is the opposite; files that have changed are not being picked up by NDMP > incremental dumps. Matt's problem is currently being investigated. > That's right. Greg (or anyone), can/has someone confirmed this behavior? I'm concerned about missing something obvious. > FYI: the resolution for Bug ID 21837 required a change to Networker as well as > Data OnTap. > I'm hopeful we won't need a change to BudTool, those are hard to come by these days ;-) -- Matt Phelps System Administrator, Computation Facility Harvard - Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics mphelps(a)cfa.harvard.edu, http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~mphelps

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UK Customs problems
by Dave Atkin 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

We just received some replacement LRC cards for our FC8 shelves, but I've had endless conversations with Federal Express about VAT. Apparently because they are new parts, UK Customs require VAT to be paid on them (Universities can't generally reclaim VAT). The fact that they are warranty replacements seems to make no difference. I'm trying to get our reseller to sort this out but it would be really helpful if Netapp could do someting with the paperwork to avoid this in the future when they ship replacement parts to us. Dave Atkin -- Dave Atkin, Head of Technical Services Computing Service, University of York, YORK YO10 5DD Phone: +44-1904-433804 (ddi) Fax: +44-1904-433740 Email: D.Atkin(a)york.ac.uk

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RE: BudTool incremental backups behaving differently when using N DMP
by Greg.Linn＠netapp.com 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

I believe that Matt's problem is different from bug ID 21837. 21837 was identified during investigation of a Legato Networker problem where ctime was being updated inappropriately. The net effect of this was that files that hadn't changed were being processed as if they had. I believe that Matt's problem is the opposite; files that have changed are not being picked up by NDMP incremental dumps. Matt's problem is currently being investigated. FYI: the resolution for Bug ID 21837 required a change to Networker as well as Data OnTap. Greg Linn Manager, NDMP Development 408.822.3752 telephone -----Original Message----- From: Chris Thompson [mailto:cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 1:33 PM To: mphelps(a)cfa.harvard.edu Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: BudTool incremental backups behaving differently when using NDMP mphelps(a)cfa.harvard.edu (Matt Phelps) writes: > OK, an update. I have removed the ufsdump/restore part from the > equation. The same behavior exists when I move files to the NetApp > with gtar using the "p" option as root to preserve file properties. > > NDMP incremental dumps are still not picking up the moved files. > Again, an rsh'ed Ontap "dump" command DOES pick up the moved files. Is this the same as, or related to, | Bug ID 21837 | Product Data ONTAP | Title setAccTime() sets the atime correctly, but also sets the ctime | Problem Attempts to set only the access time of files end up changing the inode | change time as well. This is an issue for restore programs which are | trying to restore the exact state of a file. ? What do the ctimes for for the files actually look like? (use "ls -lc") 21837 is supposedly fixed in 5.3.6 (maybe even 5.3.5R2P2?). Chris Thompson University of Cambridge Computing Service, Email: cet1(a)ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, Phone: +44 1223 334715 United Kingdom.

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Come join NetApp at Usenix This Year
by michael.lapides＠netapp.com 07 Jun '00

07 Jun '00

To all those wondering, yes NetApp will once again host a party this year at USENIX. Please come join us Tuesday evening, June 20th, at the Marriot. The fun will start at 8PM, so as I always say go out and enjoy dinner (no hotel food please) or attend you favorite BOF then stop by for some fun, games, desert and beverages. There will be flyers at the show with specific ballroom location details. See ya in San Diego. -Michael

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