Wow, I just watched Jeffrey Steiner's presentation "BRK-1151-2 Data Performance: What do you really need?" While attending the Virtual Insight conference. What an amazingly useful talk, I wish it *was* a two hour course, I'd take it again in a hearbeat.
My Netapp setup isn't nearly as upto date as I'd like, and my Oracle DBA does a pretty good job of keeping things humming, but this talk was just really excellent.
If you have a chance, go attend this conference and watch this presentation.
John
I'm glad it was helpful! I could have gone on for two or three hours on the topic.
I really can't emphasize enough how often we see situations devolve into solving nonexistent problems. I think it's mostly because all-flash changed things so much. Back in the days of spinning drives, storage performance was almost always a problem, and there were almost always real benefits from trying to tune things a little better.
That's occasionally true for all-flash, but on the whole the problem shifted from "how can I make storage go faster?" to "what exactly do I need in the first place?"
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Wow, I just watched Jeffrey Steiner's presentation "BRK-1151-2 Data Performance: What do you really need?" While attending the Virtual Insight conference. What an amazingly useful talk, I wish it *was* a two hour course, I'd take it again in a hearbeat.
My Netapp setup isn't nearly as upto date as I'd like, and my Oracle DBA does a pretty good job of keeping things humming, but this talk was just really excellent.
If you have a chance, go attend this conference and watch this presentation.
John
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Yes - great presentation.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 9:45 AM Steiner, Jeffrey Jeffrey.Steiner@netapp.com wrote:
I'm glad it was helpful! I could have gone on for two or three hours on the topic.
I really can't emphasize enough how often we see situations devolve into solving nonexistent problems. I think it's mostly because all-flash changed things so much. Back in the days of spinning drives, storage performance was almost always a problem, and there were almost always real benefits from trying to tune things a little better.
That's occasionally true for all-flash, but on the whole the problem shifted from "how can I make storage go faster?" to "what exactly do I need in the first place?"
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Wow, I just watched Jeffrey Steiner's presentation "BRK-1151-2 Data Performance: What do you really need?" While attending the Virtual Insight conference. What an amazingly useful talk, I wish it *was* a two hour course, I'd take it again in a hearbeat.
My Netapp setup isn't nearly as upto date as I'd like, and my Oracle DBA does a pretty good job of keeping things humming, but this talk was just really excellent.
If you have a chance, go attend this conference and watch this presentation.
John
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On 2020-10-27 14:44, Jeffrey Steiner wrote:
I'm glad it was helpful! I could have gone on for two or three hours on the topic.
You probably should, record it, and send out the link to us :-) BTW I haven't watched you yet, thought I'd do that today. Hope I have ample time this evening. I'm in GMT+1 so...
I really can't emphasize enough how often we see situations devolve into solving nonexistent problems. I think it's mostly because all-flash changed things so much.
Hear, hear! PoC Purgatory. Yuk. PoC's with micro benchmarks for Storage systems. *sigh* Tells you nothing new you didn't already know, thing you don't really need to know for the real life use case, or could find out just as well (risk mitigation) in other ways than "testing" it yourself. Useless waste of time in 95% of all the cases people put $$$, time, effort into it
Back in the days of spinning drives, storage performance was almost always a problem, and there were almost always real benefits from trying to tune things a little better.
That's occasionally true for all-flash, but on the whole the problem shifted from "how can I make storage go faster?" to "what exactly do I need in the first place?"
I agree w this in principle. That said: there are lots of processing intricacies (I know, not really tunable...) that can go wrong and bottleneck inside a complex storage system like ONTAP. Yeah, I know... I know more about how WAFL works inside than I really should. :-\
Cheers, /M
Hello,
Is recording of this session availabale anywhere?
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 14:48, Steiner, Jeffrey Jeffrey.Steiner@netapp.com wrote:
I'm glad it was helpful! I could have gone on for two or three hours on the topic.
I really can't emphasize enough how often we see situations devolve into solving nonexistent problems. I think it's mostly because all-flash changed things so much. Back in the days of spinning drives, storage performance was almost always a problem, and there were almost always real benefits from trying to tune things a little better.
That's occasionally true for all-flash, but on the whole the problem shifted from "how can I make storage go faster?" to "what exactly do I need in the first place?"
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Wow, I just watched Jeffrey Steiner's presentation "BRK-1151-2 Data Performance: What do you really need?" While attending the Virtual Insight conference. What an amazingly useful talk, I wish it *was* a two hour course, I'd take it again in a hearbeat.
My Netapp setup isn't nearly as upto date as I'd like, and my Oracle DBA does a pretty good job of keeping things humming, but this talk was just really excellent.
If you have a chance, go attend this conference and watch this presentation.
John
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I believe the content, including playback of all sessions, will be available until late January. Registration is free:
https://insightdigital.netapp.com/login
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Hello,
Is recording of this session availabale anywhere?
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 14:48, Steiner, Jeffrey <Jeffrey.Steiner@netapp.commailto:Jeffrey.Steiner@netapp.com> wrote: I'm glad it was helpful! I could have gone on for two or three hours on the topic.
I really can't emphasize enough how often we see situations devolve into solving nonexistent problems. I think it's mostly because all-flash changed things so much. Back in the days of spinning drives, storage performance was almost always a problem, and there were almost always real benefits from trying to tune things a little better.
That's occasionally true for all-flash, but on the whole the problem shifted from "how can I make storage go faster?" to "what exactly do I need in the first place?"
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Wow, I just watched Jeffrey Steiner's presentation "BRK-1151-2 Data Performance: What do you really need?" While attending the Virtual Insight conference. What an amazingly useful talk, I wish it *was* a two hour course, I'd take it again in a hearbeat.
My Netapp setup isn't nearly as upto date as I'd like, and my Oracle DBA does a pretty good job of keeping things humming, but this talk was just really excellent.
If you have a chance, go attend this conference and watch this presentation.
John
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