I would like to pose a question. Has anyone had to incorporate Mac clients into an NT domain from Novell ? Using a Netapp filer as the storage medium for such. I am looking at moving these clients files from a Novell server to the Netapp. I have read the 'NT' material on what needs to be done as far as the files being put on an 'NT' server. But am unsure of what needs to be done to make it work with Netapp. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Jim Collins S&C Electtric Company Chicago IL
Jim,
I work for a NetApp reseller and have been involved in a few implementations with Mac clients.
There's two ways to look at the issue. Do you want the Macs to "talk" directly to the NetApp or do you want them to go through an NT domain?
In the first case, there are several third party NFS client software apps for Mac that work well. The DAVE client from Thursby systems is one that I'm familiar with. Remember that this requires an NFS license on the Filer and means you have to manage an NFS style database or mapping to the NT domain.
The other case requires you to put the Mac clients in the NT domain and map the drives from the Mac directly. Two ways to look at this: 1) "Force" the Macs to "talk/interpret" in the NT space. 2) "Force" the NT domain server to "talk/interpret" for the Macs. The second option requires much overhead because you need to "reshare" the Filer's NT shares through the NT server with Mac services. (Remember - you can't install Mac services for NT on the Filer).
On an additional note... The latest Macintosh OS (version 10) is built on a UNIX kernel and has the NFS client built into it. So the NFS solution may be best for the future. (After buying the Filer's NFS license - of course).
Hope this helps.
Thomas Heffron Sytems Engineer DataWise, Inc. theffron@datawise1.com
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Collins, Jim Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 9:16 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Adopting Mac Clients
I would like to pose a question. Has anyone had to incorporate Mac clients into an NT domain from Novell ? Using a Netapp filer as the storage medium for such. I am looking at moving these clients files from a Novell server to the Netapp. I have read the 'NT' material on what needs to be done as far as the files being put on an 'NT' server. But am unsure of what needs to be done to make it work with Netapp. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Jim Collins S&C Electtric Company Chicago IL
A bit of a retraction...
I talked earlier about a "reshare" from NT through File Services for Mac. After looking through my notes, I found that this was not a complete solution. It also involved creating "batch file" services on NT and tricking the system to think it had a local attached drive in order to share to the Mac clients... *very* messy - and probably not supported. In the end I believe the Filer won't interpret the RPC from the NT server.
Much apologies.
Thomas Heffron Systems Engineer DataWise, Inc. theffron@datawise1.com
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Heffron Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:11 AM To: Collins Jim; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Adopting Mac Clients
Jim,
I work for a NetApp reseller and have been involved in a few implementations with Mac clients.
There's two ways to look at the issue. Do you want the Macs to "talk" directly to the NetApp or do you want them to go through an NT domain?
In the first case, there are several third party NFS client software apps for Mac that work well. The DAVE client from Thursby systems is one that I'm familiar with. Remember that this requires an NFS license on the Filer and means you have to manage an NFS style database or mapping to the NT domain.
The other case requires you to put the Mac clients in the NT domain and map the drives from the Mac directly. Two ways to look at this: 1) "Force" the Macs to "talk/interpret" in the NT space. 2) "Force" the NT domain server to "talk/interpret" for the Macs. The second option requires much overhead because you need to "reshare" the Filer's NT shares through the NT server with Mac services. (Remember - you can't install Mac services for NT on the Filer).
On an additional note... The latest Macintosh OS (version 10) is built on a UNIX kernel and has the NFS client built into it. So the NFS solution may be best for the future. (After buying the Filer's NFS license - of course).
Hope this helps.
Thomas Heffron Sytems Engineer DataWise, Inc. theffron@datawise1.com
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Collins, Jim Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 9:16 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Adopting Mac Clients
I would like to pose a question. Has anyone had to incorporate Mac clients into an NT domain from Novell ? Using a Netapp filer as the storage medium for such. I am looking at moving these clients files from a Novell server to the Netapp. I have read the 'NT' material on what needs to be done as far as the files being put on an 'NT' server. But am unsure of what needs to be done to make it work with Netapp. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Jim Collins S&C Electtric Company Chicago IL
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Collins, Jim wrote:
I would like to pose a question. Has anyone had to incorporate Mac clients into an NT domain from Novell ? Using a Netapp filer as the storage medium for such. I am looking
A long time ago, we used to use Syntax's TAS server to serve the same set of data for CIFS and AFP clients, in addition to the native NFS on the Sun box it was hosted on. I believe you can "re-share" an NFS mount from a filer through the server host which runs TAS, too, so this might work for you:
http://www.syntax.com/totalnet/totalnet60.htm
When we no longer required Macintosh file server support, we quickly moved away from TAS because in comparison to a filer, pulling data through TAS is like sucking big rocks through a narrow straw.
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