Ndmpd status, doesn't revealany active ndmp sessions. These snapshots date back to 17 Aug. Any other way out..avoiding reboot prem
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Kappel [mailto:steve.kappel@raistlin.min.ov.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 1:22 PM To: mrb@netapp.com; PrJain@shastanets.com Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Deleting snapshot
No, not a chance that it is the backup software (NDMP client).
Consider this - if your network link goes down your backup (NDMP client) is aborted. Since you have no network link there is no way the backup product can do anything in NDMP to abort or cleanup the backup running in the filer. The filer has to be able to clean up from the NDMP session socket "going away".
Since you have "failed backup processes" the NDMP session is closed on the client side. So it is OnTap that is not functioning correctly.
You might try looking for the NDMP sessions with "ndmpd status" on the filer and then kill any that are running with "ndmpd kill <sessionid>".
From: Premanshu Jain PrJain@shastanets.com To: "'mrb@netapp.com'" mrb@netapp.com, Premanshu Jain
Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Deleting snapshot Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:09:01 -0700
NDMP or Veritas Netbackup. All these snapshots were a part of failed
backups
prem
-----Original Message----- From: J. Bryan Kelsch [mailto:mrb@netapp.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 11:13 AM To: Premanshu Jain Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Deleting snapshot
This is not a function the filer, it is an error in the backup software
that
is not cleaning up properly.
You have to reboot first.
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:42:26 -0700 , you wrote:
I have some snapshots created by failed backup processes and shows them
busy
still. How can I delete them..?
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3% ( 3%) 2% ( 2%) Sep 07 18:04 bot_sw.1 4% ( 3%) 3% ( 2%) Sep 07 16:12 hourly.0 4% ( 4%) 3% ( 3%) Sep 07 12:10 hourly.1 5% ( 4%) 3% ( 3%) Sep 07 08:10 hourly.2 5% ( 4%) 4% ( 3%) Sep 07 00:11 nightly.0 6% ( 4%) 4% ( 3%) Sep 06 20:11 hourly.3 7% ( 4%) 5% ( 3%) Sep 06 16:12 hourly.4 7% ( 4%) 5% ( 3%) Sep 06 12:10 hourly.5 8% ( 4%) 6% ( 3%) Sep 06 00:08 nightly.1 19% (15%) 17% (12%) Aug 20 21:52 snapshot_for_backup.32 (busy) 20% (15%) 17% (12%) Aug 19 22:46 snapshot_for_backup.30 (busy) 21% (15%) 19% (12%) Aug 17 04:08 snapshot_for_backup.23 (busy)
J. Bryan Kelsch, PSE Network Appliance 5220 Spring Valley Road - Suite 350 Dallas, TX 75240 972.759.7528 Office 817.821.0350 Cell 888.374.6422 Pager
__________________________________________________________________________ Steve Kappel steve.kappel@veritas.com VERITAS Software steve.kappel@iname.com (Personal)
Premanshu,
What release of Data Ontap are you running?
If it is pre-5.3.6, ONLINE burt 20847 looks like a likely culprit.
The description indicates that a snapshot is left locked when an NDMP backup is killed. ndmpd status shows nothing, and ndmpd kill has no effect.
The stated workaround is to reboot the filer.
It also says that the burt was fixed in 5.3.6...
It definitely does not seem appropriate to blame the NDMP client. It is a filer specific issue. Apologies to Steve Kappel. But I bet his blood pressure wasn't high enough. ;)
I also apologize that there is no way to clear the snapshot other than rebooting the filer.
I believe that in the near future, Ontap will have an enhanced 'ndmpd kill' command that will be able to resolve issues like this, without a reboot or upgrade.
I hope that this helps clear up any issues. If not, feel free to email me. And if you're already running 5.3.6, please throw a pie at me.
Stephen Manley NDMP Cruise Ship Activities Coordinator
Ndmpd status, doesn't revealany active ndmp sessions. These snapshots date back to 17 Aug. Any other way out..avoiding reboot prem
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Kappel [mailto:steve.kappel@raistlin.min.ov.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 1:22 PM To: mrb@netapp.com; PrJain@shastanets.com Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Deleting snapshot
No, not a chance that it is the backup software (NDMP client).
Consider this - if your network link goes down your backup (NDMP client) is aborted. Since you have no network link there is no way the backup product can do anything in NDMP to abort or cleanup the backup running in the filer. The filer has to be able to clean up from the NDMP session socket "going away".
Since you have "failed backup processes" the NDMP session is closed on the client side. So it is OnTap that is not functioning correctly.
You might try looking for the NDMP sessions with "ndmpd status" on the filer and then kill any that are running with "ndmpd kill <sessionid>".
From: Premanshu Jain PrJain@shastanets.com To: "'mrb@netapp.com'" mrb@netapp.com, Premanshu Jain
Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Deleting snapshot Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:09:01 -0700
NDMP or Veritas Netbackup. All these snapshots were a part of failed
backups
prem
-----Original Message----- From: J. Bryan Kelsch [mailto:mrb@netapp.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 11:13 AM To: Premanshu Jain Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Deleting snapshot
This is not a function the filer, it is an error in the backup software
that
is not cleaning up properly.
You have to reboot first.
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:42:26 -0700 , you wrote:
I have some snapshots created by failed backup processes and shows them
busy
still. How can I delete them..?
Volume sw working..................................................................
.
..
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..
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%/used %/total date name
3% ( 3%) 2% ( 2%) Sep 07 18:04 bot_sw.1 4% ( 3%) 3% ( 2%) Sep 07 16:12 hourly.0 4% ( 4%) 3% ( 3%) Sep 07 12:10 hourly.1 5% ( 4%) 3% ( 3%) Sep 07 08:10 hourly.2 5% ( 4%) 4% ( 3%) Sep 07 00:11 nightly.0 6% ( 4%) 4% ( 3%) Sep 06 20:11 hourly.3 7% ( 4%) 5% ( 3%) Sep 06 16:12 hourly.4 7% ( 4%) 5% ( 3%) Sep 06 12:10 hourly.5 8% ( 4%) 6% ( 3%) Sep 06 00:08 nightly.1 19% (15%) 17% (12%) Aug 20 21:52 snapshot_for_backup.32 (busy) 20% (15%) 17% (12%) Aug 19 22:46 snapshot_for_backup.30 (busy) 21% (15%) 19% (12%) Aug 17 04:08 snapshot_for_backup.23 (busy)
J. Bryan Kelsch, PSE Network Appliance 5220 Spring Valley Road - Suite 350 Dallas, TX 75240 972.759.7528 Office 817.821.0350 Cell 888.374.6422 Pager
Steve Kappel steve.kappel@veritas.com VERITAS Software steve.kappel@iname.com (Personal)
I believe that in the near future, Ontap will have an enhanced 'ndmpd kill' command that will be able to resolve issues like this, without a reboot or upgrade.
'ndmpd maim'? :-)
-- Chris Lamb, Unix Guy MeasureCast, Inc. 503-241-1469 x247 skeezics@measurecast.com
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