I hate to say this, but I am considering leaving the list. I have been silently in the background for a long time because of not having a toy, I mean filer, to play with but it looks that the mailing list is currently being abused. I already have one yahoo account blocked, but it becomes a bit more difficult with the latest message from Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer).
Bye Ernie
Here is the header:
Received: from mail1.siemens.de ([139.23.33.14]) by mchx07da.mchm.siemens.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HM60G0V3; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:21 +0100 Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8KW03511 for Ernst.Bokkelkamp@mch10.sbs.de; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8JR08728 for Ernst.Bokkelkamp@mch10.sbs.de; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.95.101]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGoh104179; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2QGcvH26842; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2QGct526827 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mathworks.com (scanner.mathworks.com [144.212.95.161]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcs101506 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (ns.uk.mathworks.com [192.168.72.250]) by smtp.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcqp01491 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from petter ([218.5.139.13]) by hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2QGcmP23867 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:38:49 GMT Message-Id: 200203261638.g2QGcmP23867@hadrian.uk.mathworks.com From: mike (Manufacturer of shoes) 5626512@963.net Reply-To: r-start@163.com Subject: Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:20:45 +0800 X-Mailer: 007 Direct Email Easy Sender: owner-toasters@mathworks.com Precedence: bulk
Ernest,
Thanks for taking the time to look at the headers. I have received several spam messages today, so I have gone back to look at the source. All but one came through this list. I suggest that this list be restricted to only members in order to eliminate the spam. Otherwise, I will have to remove my address also.
-Ed
Bokkelkamp Ernst wrote:
I hate to say this, but I am considering leaving the list. I have been silently in the background for a long time because of not having a toy, I mean filer, to play with but it looks that the mailing list is currently being abused. I already have one yahoo account blocked, but it becomes a bit more difficult with the latest message from Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer).
Bye Ernie
Here is the header:
Received: from mail1.siemens.de ([139.23.33.14]) by mchx07da.mchm.siemens.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HM60G0V3; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:21 +0100 Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8KW03511 for Ernst.Bokkelkamp@mch10.sbs.de; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8JR08728 for Ernst.Bokkelkamp@mch10.sbs.de; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.95.101]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGoh104179; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2QGcvH26842; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2QGct526827 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mathworks.com (scanner.mathworks.com [144.212.95.161]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcs101506 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (ns.uk.mathworks.com [192.168.72.250]) by smtp.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcqp01491 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from petter ([218.5.139.13]) by hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2QGcmP23867 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:38:49 GMT Message-Id: 200203261638.g2QGcmP23867@hadrian.uk.mathworks.com From: mike (Manufacturer of shoes) 5626512@963.net Reply-To: r-start@163.com Subject: Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:20:45 +0800 X-Mailer: 007 Direct Email Easy Sender: owner-toasters@mathworks.com Precedence: bulk
Outstanding idea.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:44:41PM -0600, Ed Marsh wrote:
Ernest,
Thanks for taking the time to look at the headers. I have received several spam messages today, so I have gone back to look at the source. All but one came through this list. I suggest that this list be restricted to only members in order to eliminate the spam. Otherwise, I will have to remove my address also.
-Ed
Bokkelkamp Ernst wrote:
I hate to say this, but I am considering leaving the list. I have been silently in the background for a long time because of not having a toy, I mean filer, to play with but it looks that the mailing list is currently being abused. I already have one yahoo account blocked, but it becomes a bit more difficult with the latest message from Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer).
Bye Ernie
Here is the header:
Received: from mail1.siemens.de ([139.23.33.14]) by mchx07da.mchm.siemens.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HM60G0V3; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:21 +0100 Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8KW03511 for Ernst.Bokkelkamp@mch10.sbs.de; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8JR08728 for Ernst.Bokkelkamp@mch10.sbs.de; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.95.101]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGoh104179; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2QGcvH26842; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2QGct526827 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mathworks.com (scanner.mathworks.com [144.212.95.161]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcs101506 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (ns.uk.mathworks.com [192.168.72.250]) by smtp.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcqp01491 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from petter ([218.5.139.13]) by hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2QGcmP23867 for toasters@mathworks.com; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:38:49 GMT Message-Id: 200203261638.g2QGcmP23867@hadrian.uk.mathworks.com From: mike (Manufacturer of shoes) 5626512@963.net Reply-To: r-start@163.com Subject: Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:20:45 +0800 X-Mailer: 007 Direct Email Easy Sender: owner-toasters@mathworks.com Precedence: bulk
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:27:39PM -0600, Chris Blackmor wrote:
Outstanding idea.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:44:41PM -0600, Ed Marsh wrote:
Ernest,
Thanks for taking the time to look at the headers. I have received several spam messages today, so I have gone back to look at the source. All but one came through this list. I suggest that this list be restricted to only members in order to eliminate the spam. Otherwise, I will have to remove my address also.
for the list, this is a fabulous idea, but for your general spam needs, take a look at SpamAssassin (www.spamassassin.org) for dealing with spam. i've been using it for two weeks now and haven't gotten a SINGLE piece of spam. and there have been no false positives either. very very cool.
-brian
"Ernst.Bokkelkamp" == Bokkelkamp Ernst Ernst.Bokkelkamp@mch10.sbs.de writes:
Ernst.Bokkelkamp> I hate to say this, but I am considering leaving the Ernst.Bokkelkamp> list. I have been silently in the background for a Ernst.Bokkelkamp> long time because of not having a toy, I mean filer, Ernst.Bokkelkamp> to play with but it looks that the mailing list is Ernst.Bokkelkamp> currently being abused. I already have one yahoo Ernst.Bokkelkamp> account blocked, but it becomes a bit more difficult Ernst.Bokkelkamp> with the latest message from Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Ernst.Bokkelkamp> Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer).
Understandable. Up until recently, we were clean, but slowly we've been getting hit more often. Since I no longer work at the MathWorks, I haven't been in a position to easily change the list config to stop the spam. However, since people *are* griping about it, I'll harass the folks still there (Hi Todd and Carl :-) to make some changes for me.
In particular, I'm going to disallow posting to the list from any address that isn't a subscriber. Ie, if you receive toasters mail to an address that's different from the one you post with, it'll get blocked. Email owner-toasters and I'll add it to the list...
To be fair to people that don't read often (and because I'm moving to a new apartment), I'll make this change next week. People are welcome to offer up any other suggestions...
K. owner-toasters