Is there anyone out there backing up a toaster *not* using a commercial NDMP-compliant product (eg, Netbackup)? How do you do it? Do I have any options besides (a) direct-attach a dedicated tape drive or (b) commercial NDMP-enabled software, which will enable me to get both UNIX-specific information and CIFS-specific information onto tape safely?
Thanks for any light anyone can shed.
Tom,
We currently backup a small subset of data on a filer by using a nfs mount on a unix system. Then we backup the file system on the unix box. This particular one is Data Protector, but you could use virtually anything to back it up. No ndmp required.
Jeff
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Tom Yates madhatter@teaparty.net wrote:
Is there anyone out there backing up a toaster *not* using a commercial NDMP-compliant product (eg, Netbackup)? How do you do it? Do I have any options besides (a) direct-attach a dedicated tape drive or (b) commercial NDMP-enabled software, which will enable me to get both UNIX-specific information and CIFS-specific information onto tape safely?
Thanks for any light anyone can shed.
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, Jeff Cleverley wrote:
Jeff
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Tom Yates madhatter@teaparty.net wrote:
Is there anyone out there backing up a toaster *not* using a commercial NDMP-compliant product (eg, Netbackup)? How do you do it? Do I have any options besides (a) direct-attach a dedicated tape drive or (b) commercial NDMP-enabled software, which will enable me to get both UNIX-specific information and CIFS-specific information onto tape safely?
Thanks for any light anyone can shed.
Tom,
We currently backup a small subset of data on a filer by using a nfs mount on a unix system. Then we backup the file system on the unix box. This particular one is Data Protector, but you could use virtually anything to back it up. No ndmp required.
We also use NFS for backups, and the loss of other metadata is not a concern for us. However, checking for data-last-written by NFS is quite slow over millions of files so an open source NDMP solution might be attractive to us, if one were available and if it reduced that overhead. As it is, checking for new and changed files consumes the vast majority of backup time.
Daniel Feenberg NBER
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We faced a similar issue going to a B2D device under Data Protector (Data Protector does not support 3-way NDMP). We were uncertain of mounting Windows CIFS data as an NFS mount on UNIX because the permissions/security may not be restored correctly. We tried backing up the CIFS data off a Windows server but it was just too slow for the amount of files and directories we had. We ended up having to get VTL functionality on our device and use NDMP. We're getting very good results, as we are pretty much saturating the NetApp 4GB FC port.
Daniel
-----Original Message----- From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Cleverley Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:40 PM To: Tom Yates Cc: toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: backing up a small toaster
Tom,
We currently backup a small subset of data on a filer by using a nfs mount on a unix system. Then we backup the file system on the unix box. This particular one is Data Protector, but you could use virtually anything to back it up. No ndmp required.
Jeff
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Tom Yates madhatter@teaparty.net wrote:
Is there anyone out there backing up a toaster *not* using a commercial NDMP-compliant product (eg, Netbackup)? How do you do it? Do I have any options besides (a) direct-attach a dedicated tape drive or (b) commercial NDMP-enabled software, which will enable me to get both UNIX-specific information and CIFS-specific information onto tape safely?
Thanks for any light anyone can shed.
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I have not tried it myself, but the popular open source backup program bacula now supports ndmp:
http://www.bacula.org/en/dev-manual/main/main/Enterprise_Bacula_New_Featu.ht...
Ps: sorry if this is a dupe, I accidentally sent this to the old mathwords address.
On Mar 1, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Daniel Keisling wrote:
We faced a similar issue going to a B2D device under Data Protector (Data Protector does not support 3-way NDMP). We were uncertain of mounting Windows CIFS data as an NFS mount on UNIX because the permissions/security may not be restored correctly. We tried backing up the CIFS data off a Windows server but it was just too slow for the amount of files and directories we had. We ended up having to get VTL functionality on our device and use NDMP. We're getting very good results, as we are pretty much saturating the NetApp 4GB FC port.
Daniel
-----Original Message----- From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Cleverley Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:40 PM To: Tom Yates Cc: toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: backing up a small toaster
Tom,
We currently backup a small subset of data on a filer by using a nfs mount on a unix system. Then we backup the file system on the unix box. This particular one is Data Protector, but you could use virtually anything to back it up. No ndmp required.
Jeff
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Tom Yates madhatter@teaparty.net wrote:
Is there anyone out there backing up a toaster *not* using a commercial NDMP-compliant product (eg, Netbackup)? How do you do it? Do I have any options besides (a) direct-attach a dedicated tape drive or (b) commercial NDMP-enabled software, which will enable me to get both UNIX-specific information and CIFS-specific information onto tape safely?
Thanks for any light anyone can shed.
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