A lame suggestion is to turn autosupport off for Netapp (look for netapp addressing in options autosuport and disable). If you are using DFM/Operations Manager/OnCommand/next marketing term for internal monitoring, you will know when a disk fails.. If you get a disk failure, you can call, give them the messages file and they should send out a replacement...

Just a suggestion.

-----Original Message----- From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Griesser Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:11 AM To: John Stoffel; toasters@teaparty.net Subject: AW: Running on non-redundant power

Hi John,

there are serveral things that cannot be configured here (at least that's what I've always been told when asking questions like this). I do have filers which are low on spares intentionally f.ex., but according to NetApp (at least according to the tech that handled my autosupport case) there's no option of telling the filer to not moan about a low spares condition.

We were doing UPS maintenance some weeks ago and I forgot to disable auto support before doing that and so a handful of autosupport tickets got created and I did also ask if it's possible to disable AS warnings for power conditions, but just got the same answer there: Not possible.

So if there are ways to fine-tune what gets sent via autosupport, I'd love to hear them too :)

Bye,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-463-208501-320 Telefax: +43-463-208501-500

E-Mail: ag@anexia.at Web: http://www.anexia.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] Im Auftrag von John Stoffel Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. April 2013 18:07 An: toasters@teaparty.net Betreff: Running on non-redundant power

Guys,

We're in the process of starting to migrate from some 3140s running 7.3.6 to a 3220 cluster running 8.1.2, or whatever the latest release is. Going from 3.5 racks down to just 1 rack, woohoo! But I'm short of 30amp power plugs in my data center. So my plan is to drop one of my 3140s down to just two 30A circuits so I can bring up the 3220 cluster with fully redundant power.

I know I need to turn off autosupport while this is happening, though I'd like to just turn off warning about power problems and keep auto support going for disk failures.

Any suggestions or comments?

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You can tell support you have a window coming, to ignore power notices.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM, tmac tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:

why bother at all...

for just a few buck you can go out and get some "Y" power cables (C13/C14) and fake the NetApp gear into thinking it is fully powered.

I have done that ....so many times.... before.

--tmac

*Tim McCarthy* *Principal Consultant*

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Klise, Steve klises@sutterhealth.orgwrote:

...

A lame suggestion is to turn autosupport off for Netapp (look for netapp addressing in options autosuport and disable). If you are using DFM/Operations Manager/OnCommand/next marketing term for internal monitoring, you will know when a disk fails.. If you get a disk failure, you can call, give them the messages file and they should send out a replacement...

Just a suggestion.

-----Original Message----- From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Griesser Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:11 AM To: John Stoffel; toasters@teaparty.net Subject: AW: Running on non-redundant power

Hi John,

there are serveral things that cannot be configured here (at least that's what I've always been told when asking questions like this). I do have filers which are low on spares intentionally f.ex., but according to NetApp (at least according to the tech that handled my autosupport case) there's no option of telling the filer to not moan about a low spares condition.

We were doing UPS maintenance some weeks ago and I forgot to disable auto support before doing that and so a handful of autosupport tickets got created and I did also ask if it's possible to disable AS warnings for power conditions, but just got the same answer there: Not possible.

So if there are ways to fine-tune what gets sent via autosupport, I'd love to hear them too :)

Bye,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-463-208501-320 Telefax: +43-463-208501-500

E-Mail: ag@anexia.at Web: http://www.anexia.at

Anschrift Hauptsitz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstraße 140, 9020 Klagenfurt Geschäftsführer: Alexander Windbichler Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] Im Auftrag von John Stoffel Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. April 2013 18:07 An: toasters@teaparty.net Betreff: Running on non-redundant power

Guys,

We're in the process of starting to migrate from some 3140s running 7.3.6 to a 3220 cluster running 8.1.2, or whatever the latest release is. Going from 3.5 racks down to just 1 rack, woohoo! But I'm short of 30amp power plugs in my data center. So my plan is to drop one of my 3140s down to just two 30A circuits so I can bring up the 3220 cluster with fully redundant power.

I know I need to turn off autosupport while this is happening, though I'd like to just turn off warning about power problems and keep auto support going for disk failures.

Any suggestions or comments?

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Hi Alexander,

slightly off-topic, but I couldn't resist:

from the documentation: *options raid.min_spare_count* Specifies the minimum number of spare drives required to avoid warnings for low spares. If there are at least raid.min_spare_count spare drives that are appropriate replacements for any filesystem disk, then there will be no warnings for low spares. This option can be set from 0 to 4. The default setting is 1. Setting this option to 0 means that there will be no warnings for low spares even if there are no spares available. This option can be set to 0 only on systems with 16 or fewer attached drives and that are running with RAID-DP aggregates. A setting of 0 is not allowed on systems with RAID4 aggregates.

It's e.g. mentioned also in the Storage Subsystem Technical FAQ under the heading 'WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED AGGREGATE AND RAID GROUP CONFIGURATION FOR A FAS2020 OR FAS2040 SYSTEM USING ONLY 12 INTERNAL DRIVES?' for an asymmetric configuration...

Mind you: There are certain conditions to be met to be able to set this to 0 which you might not have fulfilled...

Hope that helps

Sebastian

On 24.04.2013 18:10, Alexander Griesser wrote:

Hi John,

there are serveral things that cannot be configured here (at least that's what I've always been told when asking questions like this). I do have filers which are low on spares intentionally f.ex., but according to NetApp (at least according to the tech that handled my autosupport case) there's no option of telling the filer to not moan about a low spares condition.

We were doing UPS maintenance some weeks ago and I forgot to disable auto support before doing that and so a handful of autosupport tickets got created and I did also ask if it's possible to disable AS warnings for power conditions, but just got the same answer there: Not possible.

So if there are ways to fine-tune what gets sent via autosupport, I'd love to hear them too :)

Bye,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-463-208501-320 Telefax: +43-463-208501-500

E-Mail: ag@anexia.at Web: http://www.anexia.at

Anschrift Hauptsitz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstraße 140, 9020 Klagenfurt Geschäftsführer: Alexander Windbichler Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] Im Auftrag von John Stoffel Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. April 2013 18:07 An: toasters@teaparty.net Betreff: Running on non-redundant power

Guys,

We're in the process of starting to migrate from some 3140s running 7.3.6 to a 3220 cluster running 8.1.2, or whatever the latest release is. Going from 3.5 racks down to just 1 rack, woohoo! But I'm short of 30amp power plugs in my data center. So my plan is to drop one of my 3140s down to just two 30A circuits so I can bring up the 3220 cluster with fully redundant power.

I know I need to turn off autosupport while this is happening, though I'd like to just turn off warning about power problems and keep auto support going for disk failures.

Any suggestions or comments?

Thanks, John _______________________________________________ Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters

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Hi Sebastian,

thanks, that worked :)

bye,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-463-208501-320 Telefax: +43-463-208501-500

E-Mail: ag@anexia.atmailto:ag@anexia.at Web: http://www.anexia.at

Anschrift Hauptsitz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstraße 140, 9020 Klagenfurt Geschäftsführer: Alexander Windbichler Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601

Von: Sebastian Goetze [mailto:spgoetze@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. April 2013 21:47 An: Alexander Griesser; John Stoffel; toasters@teaparty.net Betreff: Re: Running on non-redundant power -> Low Spares...

Hi Alexander,

slightly off-topic, but I couldn't resist:

from the documentation: options raid.min_spare_count Specifies the minimum number of spare drives required to avoid warnings for low spares. If there are at least raid.min_spare_count spare drives that are appropriate replacements for any filesystem disk, then there will be no warnings for low spares. This option can be set from 0 to 4. The default setting is 1. Setting this option to 0 means that there will be no warnings for low spares even if there are no spares available. This option can be set to 0 only on systems with 16 or fewer attached drives and that are running with RAID-DP aggregates. A setting of 0 is not allowed on systems with RAID4 aggregates.

It's e.g. mentioned also in the Storage Subsystem Technical FAQ under the heading 'WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED AGGREGATE AND RAID GROUP CONFIGURATION FOR A FAS2020 OR FAS2040 SYSTEM USING ONLY 12 INTERNAL DRIVES?' for an asymmetric configuration...

Mind you: There are certain conditions to be met to be able to set this to 0 which you might not have fulfilled...

Hope that helps

Sebastian

On 24.04.2013 18:10, Alexander Griesser wrote:

Hi John,

there are serveral things that cannot be configured here (at least that's what I've always been told when asking questions like this).

I do have filers which are low on spares intentionally f.ex., but according to NetApp (at least according to the tech that handled my autosupport case) there's no option of telling the filer to not moan about a low spares condition.

We were doing UPS maintenance some weeks ago and I forgot to disable auto support before doing that and so a handful of autosupport tickets got created and I did also ask if it's possible to disable AS warnings for power conditions, but just got the same answer there: Not possible.

So if there are ways to fine-tune what gets sent via autosupport, I'd love to hear them too :)

Bye,

Alexander Griesser

System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-463-208501-320

Telefax: +43-463-208501-500

E-Mail: ag@anexia.atmailto:ag@anexia.at

Web: http://www.anexia.at

Anschrift Hauptsitz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstraße 140, 9020 Klagenfurt

Geschäftsführer: Alexander Windbichler

Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. April 2013 18:07

An: toasters@teaparty.netmailto:toasters@teaparty.net

Betreff: Running on non-redundant power

Guys,

We're in the process of starting to migrate from some 3140s running

7.3.6 to a 3220 cluster running 8.1.2, or whatever the latest release

is. Going from 3.5 racks down to just 1 rack, woohoo! But I'm short

of 30amp power plugs in my data center. So my plan is to drop one of

my 3140s down to just two 30A circuits so I can bring up the 3220

cluster with fully redundant power.

I know I need to turn off autosupport while this is happening, though

I'd like to just turn off warning about power problems and keep auto

support going for disk failures.

Any suggestions or comments?

Thanks,

John

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