To the best of my knowlege , this is a documented feature which we support. Hopefully it's something you never *NEED*. But since we often have PSE's installing the hardware for our customers, we wanted to make the full blown diagnostics available to them in case things went awry at the customer site. It can be horribly frustrating to be there ready to install something only to find that you don't have the diagnostic disks with you or to find that the diagnostic disks are corrupted.
We had a ton of space in the flash memory for the f8xx series, so we decided to put the diagnostics in there. Now if can just convince my boss to let me implement and release an ascii based Quake engine in forth....:)
Rick Dorfner OFW Guy Network Appliance
-----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 3:59 PM To: Dorfner, Richard Cc: 'Mr. G. D. Geen'; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: floppy shuffle
Is this a documented and supported feature, or considered "Secret Ninja" and use-at-your-own-risk?
-- Jeff
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 03:22:26PM -0700, Dorfner, Richard wrote:
Yes, the OFW command at the okay prompt for that is 'sys-diag'.
Rick Dorfner OFW guy Network Appliance.
-----Original Message----- From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:32 PM To: 'Mr. G. D. Geen'; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: floppy shuffle
For diagnostic purposes...the F8xx series filers have diagnostics on-board, and you can access them from the console with or without a working bootable image.
-----Original Message----- From: Mr. G. D. Geen [mailto:geen@ti.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:57 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: floppy shuffle
I have talked to my PSE about this before. When we went to two floppies, this wasn't so bad. Now we are three floppies and I suggested a bootable CD-ROM drive. Maybe in the next generation shelf. I would rather burn a CD as I, too, have trouble coughing up enough floppies for this operation. Consider, also, that the F700 series is Alpha based and the F800 series is Intel based. This means two sets of floppies for me. Fortunately my F520s are going back on lease and I do not have any more F330s. I could not even imagine an NAFS1400 today -- Yow!
Personally, I do not see this as whining but a request to the Lords of NetApp.
For OS upgrades, one only need transfer the system files and perform an "download" then reboot from HDD after that. No biggie there. When running diagnostics on the mother board and having to run across the data centre becomes a pain, though I do get my exercise in for the day. The Victoria Bitters Physical Fitness operating system. :-)
My $.02. Who get's the change?
-gdg
Rob Windsor wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2001 15:54:20 EDT,
Thomas.L.White@chase.com wrote:
Wodda bunch O'Whiners! how often do you actually boot from floppies! oh- maybe once at upgrade.
yeah, big "maybe" there. :>
I don't think I've ever booted from floppy during an
upgrade (except for
that one time the upgrade triggered a filesystem-related
bug -- it went
corrupt and I had to run WAFL_check).
More to the point, when I have to perform a WAFL_check
under the gun, I'd
rather not have to dig around for a fistful of floppies
required to boot
the filer for maint. Now we are FOUR TIMES more likely to
encounter an
aborted boot due to a floppy infected with bitrot. It is
time to whine.
(How many folks keep a box of fresh, new diskettes around
specifically for
new revisions of ONTAP? How many just grab the first N
unassigned
floppies they see laying around their desk? How many use
one floppy and
re-image it on-the-fly as the filer asks for it? :)
Rob++
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