I remember a presentation on the failure topic at FAST 07 by Google. Here's the link in case anyone is interested.

http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf

Their correlation between temp and failure was interesting. Basically they found that high temperature is not a notable factor, but rather large fluctuations in temperature.

An mildly interesting read unless you also like reading tech manuals, in which case you'll go banana's on it.

Jeff Kennedy Qualcomm, Incorporated QCT Engineering Compute 858-651-6592

-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Woods, Mark Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 5:00 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Cc: Stefan Funke Subject: RE: DS14 (LRC) - ESH2 Modules?

Hi René,

The technical marketing engineer for NetApp disk shelves says that replacing LRC modules with ESH2 modules in a DS14 shelf for use with Data ONTAP 7.3 will not be supported and, more importantly, will not work.

I recommend that your replace the disk shelves and the hard disk drives, which must be at least five years old at this time. Manufacturers design enterprise HDDs for five years of operation. The rate of failure increases steadily and substantially past that age.

For this reason, NetApp does not support disk shelves aged beyond five years.

Best regards,

Mark Woods

Product Marketing Manager Solid State Products & Disk Shelves mark.woods@netapp.com

-----Original Message----- From: Stefan Funke [mailto:bundy@usage.de] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:22 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: DS14 (LRC) - ESH2 Modules?

Am 07.03.2011 12:46, schrieb René Bormann:

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Hello all,

we got some old DS14 Shelfs with LRC Modules.

Is it possible to replace the LRC Modules with ESH2?

Possible, but may be unsupported:

[Source: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel732/html/ontap/rnote/rel_n otes/concept/c_oc_rn_feat73-DS14shelves.html]

Systems including DS14 shelves, ESH modules or LRC modules are not supported Beginning with Data ONTAP 7.3, DS14 disk shelves, LRC storage I/O modules, and ESH storage I/O modules are no longer supported.

Upgrading a system with any of these devices attached to it will result in an unsupported configuration. If even one of these devices is attached to your storage system, you should not upgrade to Data ONTAP 7.3 or later.

Some models of the DS14 shelves, LRC modules, and ESH modules are no longer supported. This means that the following disk shelf configurations are no longer supported:

ESH2 modules with DS14 disk shelves ESH modules with DS14 or DS14mk2 FC disk shelves LRC modules with DS14 or DS14mk2 FC disk shelves

Hello Toaster,

thank you all very much for the prompt and lot of replies!

We where a bit confused, so we bought some DS14MK2 ESH2 Shelfs.

I connected the Shelfs, added a new Aggr and the two volumes we got, root and vol0. I setup SnapMirror for both and want to change in a downtime slot, set the new root vol and rename the snapmirrored vol0.

But last time I played around with that - I realized that the iSCSI settings where missing. Where are the iSCSI setting stored and how to backup, restore them?

Does someone know?

Thanks from Hamburg,

René

Kennedy, Jeffrey mailto:jkennedy@qualcomm.com Mittwoch, 9. März 2011 17:47

I remember a presentation on the failure topic at FAST 07 by Google. Here's the link in case anyone is interested.

http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf

Their correlation between temp and failure was interesting. Basically they found that high temperature is not a notable factor, but rather large fluctuations in temperature.

An mildly interesting read unless you also like reading tech manuals, in which case you'll go banana's on it.

Jeff Kennedy Qualcomm, Incorporated QCT Engineering Compute 858-651-6592

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Woods, Mark mailto:Mark.Woods@netapp.com Dienstag, 8. März 2011 02:00

Hi René,

The technical marketing engineer for NetApp disk shelves says that replacing LRC modules with ESH2 modules in a DS14 shelf for use with Data ONTAP 7.3 will not be supported and, more importantly, will not work.

I recommend that your replace the disk shelves and the hard disk drives, which must be at least five years old at this time. Manufacturers design enterprise HDDs for five years of operation. The rate of failure increases steadily and substantially past that age.

For this reason, NetApp does not support disk shelves aged beyond five years.

Best regards,

Mark Woods

Product Marketing Manager Solid State Products & Disk Shelves mark.woods@netapp.com

-----Original Message----- From: Stefan Funke [mailto:bundy@usage.de] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:22 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: DS14 (LRC) - ESH2 Modules?

Possible, but may be unsupported:

[Source: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel732/html/ontap/rnote/rel_n...]

Systems including DS14 shelves, ESH modules or LRC modules are not supported Beginning with Data ONTAP 7.3, DS14 disk shelves, LRC storage I/O modules, and ESH storage I/O modules are no longer supported.

Upgrading a system with any of these devices attached to it will result in an unsupported configuration. If even one of these devices is attached to your storage system, you should not upgrade to Data ONTAP 7.3 or later.

Some models of the DS14 shelves, LRC modules, and ESH modules are no longer supported. This means that the following disk shelf configurations are no longer supported:

ESH2 modules with DS14 disk shelves ESH modules with DS14 or DS14mk2 FC disk shelves LRC modules with DS14 or DS14mk2 FC disk shelves

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Stefan Funke mailto:bundy@usage.de Montag, 7. März 2011 21:22

Am 07.03.2011 12:46, schrieb René Bormann:

Possible, but may be unsupported:

[Source: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel732/html/ontap/rnote/rel_n...]

Systems including DS14 shelves, ESH modules or LRC modules are not supported Beginning with Data ONTAP 7.3, DS14 disk shelves, LRC storage I/O modules, and ESH storage I/O modules are no longer supported.

Upgrading a system with any of these devices attached to it will result in an unsupported configuration. If even one of these devices is attached to your storage system, you should not upgrade to Data ONTAP 7.3 or later.

Some models of the DS14 shelves, LRC modules, and ESH modules are no longer supported. This means that the following disk shelf configurations are no longer supported:

ESH2 modules with DS14 disk shelves ESH modules with DS14 or DS14mk2 FC disk shelves LRC modules with DS14 or DS14mk2 FC disk shelves

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René Bormann mailto:bormann@bbtel.de Montag, 7. März 2011 12:46

Hello all,

we got some old DS14 Shelfs with LRC Modules.

Is it possible to replace the LRC Modules with ESH2?

Thanks from Hamburg,

René

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