We've been using Workstation Solutions Quick Restore to backup an F740(DOT5.2.3) via NDMP to an Exabyte 220 Mammoth library for a couple of months now. I've found it to be an excellent combination. One of the nice things about WS is that if you do find a bug they'll fix it quick. I haven't had any problems with the filer crashing while backing up.
Jim Cozens CAD Systems Manager Imagination Technologies Ltd Home Park Estate Kings Langley Herts UK
-----Original Message----- From: mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov [mailto:mgx@spruce.lsd.ornl.gov] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:30 PM To: lpaton@cfa.harvard.edu Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Backup solutions
hi lisa ...
are you a happy budtool user ;-)
i'd really like to here about the demo. a reliable, affordable NDMP backup solution would be great!
-- michael
On Tue, Nov 30, Lisa Paton wrote:
Actually Workstation Solutions has an NDMP client too. They seem to be a bit cheaper than Veritas, but less scalable for very large installations. For me, that's fine. Especially considering it's about 1/3 the price.
I'm demo'ing the Workstation Solutions product next week and will post the results if folks are interested. We're also a current Budtool customer.
Lisa
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Jim Cozens wrote:
We've been using Workstation Solutions Quick Restore to backup an F740(DOT5.2.3) via NDMP to an Exabyte 220 Mammoth library for a couple of months now.
Does QR support 3-way NDMP dumps where the tape library is located on a Solaris host (i.e., does QR come with an ndmpd for Solaris)? Veritas also does 3-way, but only to a tape drive attached to another filer. I need something that can efficiently handle over a dozen filers dumping to a couple of Solaris boxes sharing a single stacker (like an X200 Mammoth2 library or something).
I was told by the QR people that you can backup *any* QR-supported platform to a tape drive attached on the NetApp....not just NDMP. That is what they say differentiates them from everyone else.
See: http://www.worksta.com/ndmp3.htm for a picture.
--tmac
Brian Tao wrote:
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Jim Cozens wrote:
We've been using Workstation Solutions Quick Restore to backup an F740(DOT5.2.3) via NDMP to an Exabyte 220 Mammoth library for a couple of months now.
Does QR support 3-way NDMP dumps where the tape library is locatedon a Solaris host (i.e., does QR come with an ndmpd for Solaris)? Veritas also does 3-way, but only to a tape drive attached to another filer. I need something that can efficiently handle over a dozen filers dumping to a couple of Solaris boxes sharing a single stacker (like an X200 Mammoth2 library or something). -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"
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On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Timothy A. McCarthy wrote:
I was told by the QR people that you can backup *any* QR-supported platform to a tape drive attached on the NetApp....not just NDMP. That is what they say differentiates them from everyone else.
Hrm, that's not what I need either. ;-) Can they do that, but with the tape drive attached to the UNIX host? I would like to control and stream backups from a fleet of filers via NDMP, back to a UNIX host with a tape stacker. I don't know of any software that can do that yet.
Well, after further investigation, QR 2.6 which will be out sometime this month, You *will* be able to do just that....
Put the tape devices on *any* supported QR 2.6 client and then use NDMP to backup to them ... even a NetApp!
--tmac
Brian Tao wrote:
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Timothy A. McCarthy wrote:
I was told by the QR people that you can backup *any* QR-supported platform to a tape drive attached on the NetApp....not just NDMP. That is what they say differentiates them from everyone else.
Hrm, that's not what I need either. ;-) Can they do that, butwith the tape drive attached to the UNIX host? I would like to control and stream backups from a fleet of filers via NDMP, back to a UNIX host with a tape stacker. I don't know of any software that can do that yet. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"
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"Timothy A. McCarthy" wrote:
I was told by the QR people that you can backup *any* QR-supported platform to a tape drive attached on the NetApp....not just NDMP. That is what they say differentiates them from everyone else.
Netbackup will do this too. We found that out the hard way when we found it was using the tape drive that is direct connected to our Netapp to backup a unix system. That creates huge amounts of network traffic, so we disbled that feature. :-)
Graham
Brian, et al,
We've been using Workstation Solutions Quick Restore to backup an F740(DOT5.2.3) via NDMP to an Exabyte 220 Mammoth library for a couple of months now.
Does QR support 3-way NDMP dumps where the tape library is locatedon a Solaris host (i.e., does QR come with an ndmpd for Solaris)? Veritas also does 3-way, but only to a tape drive attached to another filer. I need something that can efficiently handle over a dozen filers dumping to a couple of Solaris boxes sharing a single stacker (like an X200 Mammoth2 library or something).
Today, Quick Restore supports 3-way backup and recovery where the tape library is connected to another filer. At the next release (announcement shortly) QR includes an NDMP daemon to support filer backup/recovery to/from Solaris, Linux, HP-UX, SGI, NCR(!), and AIX. Btw, a tangential benefit of using such a configuration is that QR supports a broader spectrum of tape drives than Ontap, including 4mm, 8mm (Exabyte, AIT, VXA), DLT, Ampex DD-2, etc.
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