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Alexander Griesser

18 May 2014 18 May '14

1:38 p.m.

Hey there,

we're getting a new FAS8020 during the next weeks and my task now is to move all the data on our current 7 mode filers onto the new one. I've already made non disruptive plans for the VMware datastores and all the NFS shares, so that's not an issue anymore - but I'm wondering about how to non disruptively migrate my iSCSI LUNs presented to my microsoft failover clusters.

Any ideas on that? I'm thinking about setting up some kind of software RAID 1 (if that's supported) on the host side with the new and the old LUNs like we did back in the good old days when we used Veritas volume manager on EMC boxes, but I'm not sure if that's a supported scenario.

I'm pretty sure some of you have gone through that already so I would be thankful for any ideas in that regard.

Best,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-5-0556-320 Telefax: +43-5-0556-500

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18 May 18 May

6:52 p.m.

Hi. If you have access to fieldportal.netapp.com you can read Clustered Data ONTAP Unified Transition Methodology Playbook for NetApp Partners https://fieldportal.netapp.com/?oparams=224360 One of the ways to migrate iSCSI and FC LUNs is to use SnapMirror. Even if you don't have licenses, you can always obtain evaluation license.

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Alexander Griesser [via Network Appliance - Toasters] ml-node+s10978n25751h75@n7.nabble.com wrote:

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Hey there,

we're getting a new FAS8020 during the next weeks and my task now is to move all the data on our current 7 mode filers onto the new one.

I've already made non disruptive plans for the VMware datastores and all the NFS shares, so that's not an issue anymore - but I'm wondering about how to non disruptively migrate my iSCSI LUNs presented to my microsoft failover clusters.

Any ideas on that? I'm thinking about setting up some kind of software RAID 1 (if that's supported) on the host side with the new and the old LUNs like we did back in the good old days when we used Veritas volume manager on EMC boxes, but I'm not sure if that's a supported scenario.

I'm pretty sure some of you have gone through that already so I would be thankful for any ideas in that regard.

Best,

*Alexander Griesser*

System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-5-0556-320

Telefax: +43-5-0556-500

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Alexander Griesser

6:55 p.m.

New subject: AW: Migrating from 7-Mode to CDOT without downtime

Hi,

thanks, I was aware of the availability of snapmirror but that’s not nondisruptive as far as I know – but I’ll have a look.

Thanks,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-5-0556-320 Telefax: +43-5-0556-500

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Von: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] Im Auftrag von hd.smasher Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. Mai 2014 20:53 An: toasters@teaparty.net Betreff: Re: Migrating from 7-Mode to CDOT without downtime

Hi. If you have access to fieldportal.netapp.comhttp://fieldportal.netapp.com/ you can read Clustered Data ONTAP Unified Transition Methodology Playbook for NetApp Partners https://fieldportal.netapp.com/?oparams=224360 One of the ways to migrate iSCSI and FC LUNs is to use SnapMirror. Even if you don't have licenses, you can always obtain evaluation license.

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Alexander Griesser [via Network Appliance - Toasters] <[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=25753&i=0>> wrote: Hey there,

we’re getting a new FAS8020 during the next weeks and my task now is to move all the data on our current 7 mode filers onto the new one. I’ve already made non disruptive plans for the VMware datastores and all the NFS shares, so that’s not an issue anymore – but I’m wondering about how to non disruptively migrate my iSCSI LUNs presented to my microsoft failover clusters.

Any ideas on that? I’m thinking about setting up some kind of software RAID 1 (if that’s supported) on the host side with the new and the old LUNs like we did back in the good old days when we used Veritas volume manager on EMC boxes, but I’m not sure if that’s a supported scenario.

I’m pretty sure some of you have gone through that already so I would be thankful for any ideas in that regard.

Best,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: <a href="tel:%2B43-5-0556-320" value="+4350556320" target="_blank">+43-5-0556-320 Telefax: <a href="tel:%2B43-5-0556-500" value="+4350556500" target="_blank">+43-5-0556-500

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tmac

7:05 p.m.

Unless something has changed, You can migrate nearly all data except LUN's (iscsi/fC).

Other tools/utilities must be used for iSCSI and FC LUN files. (like a DTA or creating New LUNS on the Cluster and using some host-specific copy)

--tmac

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On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:52 PM, hd.smasher hd.smasher@gmail.com wrote:

...

Hi. If you have access to fieldportal.netapp.com you can read Clustered Data ONTAP Unified Transition Methodology Playbook for NetApp Partners https://fieldportal.netapp.com/?oparams=224360 One of the ways to migrate iSCSI and FC LUNs is to use SnapMirror. Even if you don't have licenses, you can always obtain evaluation license.

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Hey there,

we're getting a new FAS8020 during the next weeks and my task now is to move all the data on our current 7 mode filers onto the new one.

I've already made non disruptive plans for the VMware datastores and all the NFS shares, so that's not an issue anymore - but I'm wondering about how to non disruptively migrate my iSCSI LUNs presented to my microsoft failover clusters.

Any ideas on that? I'm thinking about setting up some kind of software RAID 1 (if that's supported) on the host side with the new and the old LUNs like we did back in the good old days when we used Veritas volume manager on EMC boxes, but I'm not sure if that's a supported scenario.

I'm pretty sure some of you have gone through that already so I would be thankful for any ideas in that regard.

Best,

*Alexander Griesser*

System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: <a href="tel:%2B43-5-0556-320" value="+4350556320" target="_blank">+43-5-0556-320

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Alexander Griesser

7:09 p.m.

New subject: AW: Migrating from 7-Mode to CDOT without downtime

Hi,

yah, that's exactly what I'm looking for - migrating LUNs on the fly without any downtime. If that requires some work on the host system to set up a mirror or something like that inbefore I don't care, I'd just like to see if that's possible at all and what the experiences in this list are with NDR migrations of LUNs.

Best,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-5-0556-320 Telefax: +43-5-0556-500

E-Mail: ag@anexia.atmailto:ag@anexia.at Web: http://www.anexia.at http://www.anexia.at/

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Von: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] Im Auftrag von tmac Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. Mai 2014 21:05 An: hd.smasher Cc: Toasters Betreff: Re: Migrating from 7-Mode to CDOT without downtime

Unless something has changed, You can migrate nearly all data except LUN's (iscsi/fC).

Other tools/utilities must be used for iSCSI and FC LUN files. (like a DTA or creating New LUNS on the Cluster and using some host-specific copy)

--tmac

Tim McCarthy Principal Consultant

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On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:52 PM, hd.smasher <hd.smasher@gmail.commailto:hd.smasher@gmail.com> wrote: Hi. If you have access to fieldportal.netapp.comhttp://fieldportal.netapp.com/ you can read Clustered Data ONTAP Unified Transition Methodology Playbook for NetApp Partners https://fieldportal.netapp.com/?oparams=224360 One of the ways to migrate iSCSI and FC LUNs is to use SnapMirror. Even if you don't have licenses, you can always obtain evaluation license.

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Alexander Griesser [via Network Appliance - Toasters] <[hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=25753&i=0> wrote: Hey there,

I'm pretty sure some of you have gone through that already so I would be thankful for any ideas in that regard.

Best,

Alexander Griesser System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: <a href="tel:%2B43-5-0556-320" value="+4350556320<tel:%2B4350556320>" target="_blank">+43-5-0556-320<tel:%2B43-5-0556-320> Telefax: <a href="tel:%2B43-5-0556-500" value="+4350556500<tel:%2B4350556500>" target="_blank">+43-5-0556-500<tel:%2B43-5-0556-500>

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Adam Levin

8:21 p.m.

At my company we have done many host-based migrations, but I've never personally done one with Windows hosts -- only Linux, AIX, Solaris and HP/UX.

Still, it shouldn't matter what the underlying storage is. If your host has proper multipathing and logical volume support, you can present a second LUN, mirror it to the first, and detach/remove the first when done.

-Adam

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Alexander Griesser ag@anexia.at wrote:

...

Hi,

yah, that’s exactly what I’m looking for – migrating LUNs on the fly without any downtime. If that requires some work on the host system to set up a mirror or something like that inbefore I don’t care, I’d just like to see if that’s possible at all and what the experiences in this list are with NDR migrations of LUNs.

Best,

*Alexander Griesser*

System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: +43-5-0556-320

Telefax: +43-5-0556-500

E-Mail: ag@anexia.at

Web: http://www.anexia.at

Anschrift Hauptsitz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstraße 140, 9020 Klagenfurt

Geschäftsführer: Alexander Windbichler

Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601

*Von:* toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] *Im Auftrag von *tmac *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 18. Mai 2014 21:05 *An:* hd.smasher *Cc:* Toasters *Betreff:* Re: Migrating from 7-Mode to CDOT without downtime

Unless something has changed, You can migrate nearly all data except LUN's (iscsi/fC).

Other tools/utilities must be used for iSCSI and FC LUN files.

(like a DTA or creating New LUNS on the Cluster and using some host-specific copy)

--tmac

*Tim McCarthy*

*Principal Consultant*

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On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:52 PM, hd.smasher hd.smasher@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.

If you have access to fieldportal.netapp.com you can read Clustered Data ONTAP Unified Transition Methodology Playbook for NetApp Partners https://fieldportal.netapp.com/?oparams=224360

One of the ways to migrate iSCSI and FC LUNs is to use SnapMirror. Even if you don't have licenses, you can always obtain evaluation license.

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Alexander Griesser [via Network Appliance

Toasters] <[hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=25753&i=0>

wrote:

Hey there,

we’re getting a new FAS8020 during the next weeks and my task now is to move all the data on our current 7 mode filers onto the new one.

I’ve already made non disruptive plans for the VMware datastores and all the NFS shares, so that’s not an issue anymore – but I’m wondering about how to non disruptively migrate my iSCSI LUNs presented to my microsoft failover clusters.

Any ideas on that? I’m thinking about setting up some kind of software RAID 1 (if that’s supported) on the host side with the new and the old LUNs like we did back in the good old days when we used Veritas volume manager on EMC boxes, but I’m not sure if that’s a supported scenario.

I’m pretty sure some of you have gone through that already so I would be thankful for any ideas in that regard.

Best,

*Alexander Griesser*

System-Administrator

ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH

Telefon: <a href="tel:%2B43-5-0556-320" value="+4350556320" target="_blank">+43-5-0556-320

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