That sounds like exactly what I meant. We currently backup / and everything below that. What I was hoping I could do was backup /.snapshot/weekly0 and then use this as my full backup. I user Veritas NetBackup to fire off the NDMP job on the filer, so I guess I would need to modify the backup path to /.snapshot/Weekly0?
Simon
-----Original Message----- From: Traitel, Eyal [mailto:eyal@netapp.com] Sent: Wednesday April 2001 16:29 To: 'E.J. Jantz'; toasters@mathworks.com; simon_clawson Subject: RE: snapshot backup
Our snapshots are to be more exact "copy on new write" as opposed to "copy on old write", with the advantage of no penalty at all in terms of performance of taking the snapshot, and performance of filesystem after taking it (think of "copy on old write" - filesystem needs to read old block, write it in the backup location, then write the new block in old place - that's 3 I/Os. For us it's only 1). We do not have to go back to specific locations on the disk, and that's a real advantage in terms of performance.
In regards to full compared to snapshot - with NetApp, it's probably always better to backup snapshots, as they are point-in-time - when you've started your backup at 19:00, all of it will be consistent to 19:00 sharp, unlike traditional backup, which data changes while you backup... So - if you get me right - you can even do full backup from a snapshot...
On Legato - I think you can just mention .snapshot/hourly.0 for example in your path of backup. If you use NDMP, you anyway backup a snapshot, as the filer's dump creates one automatically for you.
Hope it somewhat helps, Eyal.
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-----Original Message----- From: E.J. Jantz [mailto:ej_jantz@bswintl.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:55 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com; simon_clawson@mentorg.com Subject: Re: snapshot backup
just a question: If the 'snapshots are "copy on writes' doesn't that mean that a backup of .snapshot is equal to and functions as a full backup? If not, can Legato using a NFS mount on a unix server capture just the info the .snapshot uses? If so, how?
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"Clawson, Simon" simon_clawson@mentorg.com 4/25/01 4:32:08 AM
Is it possible to backup just the .snapshot and then perform a restore from this data?
I am looking for ways to speed up the backups and this seems to be a possible option. It was suggested to me by a colleague as a method of backing up Clearcase VOBS, but would it be viable for the whole filer. Of course I would need to run a full backup at tleast once a month, but this would help me speed up most of my weekly runs.
Any ideas/suggestions/views?
Simon
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