to use anything but 100% open source in the enterprise is a moral crime. no company should pay money for closed source evil platforms that do not strive to increase the common good. plus linux outperforms just about anything on the market when you do it right.
why would we want to support microsoft or companies that engage in
the killing of third world people and put profits in front of mankind?
we dont want a linux server just a nice appliance that we can put linux on and use proven technologies like ext3 or reiserfs and serve up our open source content. i strongly doubt WAFFLE is as robust or fast as similar linux raid filesystems.
perhaps if netapp switched to linux they could also help the environment and help companies too but i dont know much about if they care about the people
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:04:30 -0700 Blake Golliher thelastman@gmail.com wrote:
Installing linux on an awesome box like a 940 is pretty insane dude. As a server, you might find it underpowered. It's got 6g of memory, and 1.6 P4 Zeon processor (two I think). While you can get a modern Dell 1950 with a dual core Intel proc and 8g of ram for around
6k.
Maybe you got a smokin' deal on the 940? Maybe you have no support, or any licenses on this box? I'm not sure you are going to get what you want out of this. A 940 is an awesome OnTap platform, for
NFS
block storage. As a platform for Linux or BSD, it might not be the best of choices.
Good luck,
-Blake
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If this was a serious question about porting linux to netapp hardware, it might be interesting just for some of the technical hurdles, but in this case I would not recommend feeding the troll.
This seems to be less a technical discussion, and more of a philosophical one. You are always welcome to build your own linux system on an open system server.
If you want to go down this path you will need to include EMC, Cisco, HP, IBM, etc etc.
IMO this disto list is technical in nature, and we should keep it that way.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of linux4ever@hushmail.com Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:23 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Linux on netapp filers
to use anything but 100% open source in the enterprise is a moral crime. no company should pay money for closed source evil platforms that do not strive to increase the common good. plus linux outperforms just about anything on the market when you do it right.
why would we want to support microsoft or companies that engage in
the killing of third world people and put profits in front of mankind?
we dont want a linux server just a nice appliance that we can put linux on and use proven technologies like ext3 or reiserfs and serve up our open source content. i strongly doubt WAFFLE is as robust or fast as similar linux raid filesystems.
perhaps if netapp switched to linux they could also help the environment and help companies too but i dont know much about if they care about the people
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:04:30 -0700 Blake Golliher thelastman@gmail.com wrote:
Installing linux on an awesome box like a 940 is pretty insane dude. As a server, you might find it underpowered. It's got 6g of memory, and 1.6 P4 Zeon processor (two I think). While you can get a modern Dell 1950 with a dual core Intel proc and 8g of ram for around
6k.
Maybe you got a smokin' deal on the 940? Maybe you have no support, or any licenses on this box? I'm not sure you are going to get what you want out of this. A 940 is an awesome OnTap platform, for
NFS
block storage. As a platform for Linux or BSD, it might not be the best of choices.
Good luck,
-Blake
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On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Langdon, Laughlin T. ((Lock)) wrote:
IMO this disto list is technical in nature, and we should keep it that way.
Well said, this has no business on the toasters board.
i strongly doubt WAFFLE is as robust or fast as similar linux raid filesystems.
I really really want to reply to this, however self-control will get the better of me.
If you want help doing this technically, keep this thread focused toward the technical hurdles of such a feat and not the philosophical one.
If you want help doing this technically, keep this thread focused toward the technical hurdles of such a feat and not the philosophical one.
there is no merit to porting linux to any of the filers technical or otherwise unless wasting time is your objective.
linux4ever@hushmail.com wrote:
we dont want a linux server just a nice appliance that we can put linux on and use proven technologies like ext3 or reiserfs and serve up our open source content. i strongly doubt WAFFLE is as robust or fast as similar linux raid filesystems.
Why on earth did you buy a Netapp if you do not have any intention to use it for anything it is designed for? You sound like a kid trying to start a flame war.
Let's not feed the troll.
Hmmm ... perhaps a different route to calm this religious discussion? Instead of trying to change NetApp's business model and force its hardware to go somewhere where it might not want to go at this time, you could instead take a look at Free NAS, a project that's been going for almost a year now. It's at http://www.freenas.org/
According to the project docs, their server supports "CIFS (Samba), FTP, NFS, AFP, RSYNC, iSCSI protocols, S.M.A.R.T., local user authentication, Software RAID (0,1,5) with a Full WEB configuration interface. FreeNAS takes less than 32MB once installed on Compact Flash, hard drive or USB key."
I spoke with the programmers last summer and they've made a lot of progress.
David Morgenstern eWEEK contributing editor
On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:23 AM, linux4ever@hushmail.com linux4ever@hushmail.com wrote:
to use anything but 100% open source in the enterprise is a moral crime. no company should pay money for closed source evil platforms that do not strive to increase the common good. plus linux outperforms just about anything on the market when you do it right.
why would we want to support microsoft or companies that engage in
the killing of third world people and put profits in front of mankind?
we dont want a linux server just a nice appliance that we can put linux on and use proven technologies like ext3 or reiserfs and serve up our open source content. i strongly doubt WAFFLE is as robust or fast as similar linux raid filesystems.
perhaps if netapp switched to linux they could also help the environment and help companies too but i dont know much about if they care about the people
On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 15:39 -0700, David Morgenstern wrote:
you could instead take a look at Free NAS, a project that's been going for almost a year now. It's at http://www.freenas.org/
Likewise, OpenFiler...
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