On 08/02/99 12:31:38 you wrote:
Wow, I check my mail and in two consecutive e-mails I lose two clicks of faith in NetApps.
I think the overall consensus is that Netapp filers are still great, but there are a few particular areas where they are less than robust. NDMP is one of those (another is NIS). However, I wouldn't let that drive you away. Just choose a non-NDMP backup solution for the meantime. In a few years maybe NDMP will be perfect and everyone will support if fully. Or maybe some other new great standard will come along.
Bruce
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 sirbruce@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On 08/02/99 12:31:38 you wrote:
Wow, I check my mail and in two consecutive e-mails I lose two clicks of faith in NetApps.
I think the overall consensus is that Netapp filers are still great, but there are a few particular areas where they are less than robust.
I can agree with that.
I haven't lost my faith; it's just operating in degraded mode.
NDMP is one of those (another is NIS). However, I wouldn't let that drive you away. Just choose a non-NDMP backup solution for the meantime. In a few years maybe NDMP will be perfect and everyone will support if fully. Or maybe some other new great standard will come along.
Unfortunately for me, I need a backup solution that:
* is centrally manageable (preferably by NetBackup) * uses robotic libraries * is able to provide fast backups (entire filer in 8 hours?) * can provide fast restores of single files or the entire filer * retains CIFS attributes * does not destroy reliability, availability, or performance. * offers scalability
NDMP is the solution NetApp has developed to replace clunky old dumps. Having had to babysit a 32 hour restore, swapping tapes every 4 hours on the hour, I'd like our clunky old dumps replaced ASAP. I believe that NDMP is what we're going to be using, and I'm really interested in helping NetApp perfect it, hopefully very, very soon.
Does the engineer or project manager responsible for NDMP monitor this mailing list?
Benjy Feen benjy@feen.com There is no spoon.
Benjy Feen wrote:
Unfortunately for me, I need a backup solution that:
- is centrally manageable (preferably by NetBackup)
- uses robotic libraries
- is able to provide fast backups (entire filer in 8 hours?)
- can provide fast restores of single files or the entire filer
- retains CIFS attributes
- does not destroy reliability, availability, or performance.
- offers scalability
We back up 17 filers using netbackup and NDMP. The Netbackup and NDMP solution solves all of your requirements above as far as i know. Of course it's hard to determine what you consider "fast restores" ;-) . We did have to completely restore a failed filer once, and it worked like a charm (phew!).
Most of the NDMP bugs i've seen deal with Budtool. We had a few filers that we were attempting to backup with Budtool and ran into a plethora of problems. Once we switched them to Netbackup all the problems magically disappeared.
FWIW, YMMV, etc.
Graham
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