Hi there everyone. What is the likelihood of NetApp ever supporting the CODA filesystem? http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu Thanks!
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As in grandson of AFS, disconnected operation?
I'm curious, who is supporting it now?
Hi there everyone. What is the likelihood of NetApp ever supporting the CODA filesystem? http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu Thanks!
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On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Brian Pawlowski wrote:
As in grandson of AFS, disconnected operation?
I'm curious, who is supporting it now?
Yeah, that's the one. Virtually every recent OS I can think of offhand supports it. I would think that while Netapp is busy working on such awesome filers, they'd also like to support a network filesystem that uhhh.....isn't NFS ;)
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Dan Bethe wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Brian Pawlowski wrote:
As in grandson of AFS, disconnected operation?
I'm curious, who is supporting it now?
http://www.coda.cs.cmu.eduYeah, that's the one. Virtually every recent OS I can think ofoffhand supports it. I would think that while Netapp is busy working on such awesome filers, they'd also like to support a network filesystem that uhhh.....isn't NFS ;)
Don't AFS and Coda Volume Servers (I think that's what they're called) just NFS mount their storage over a [hopefully secure] LAN? If that's the case, NetApp filers should work fine with AFS and Coda right now.
If you mean, will NetApp ever get together with Transarc and get certified or whatever Transarc calls it when they bless a vendor, the answer is "mumble." The prospect of a nice order from a couple large AFS shops would do a lot to motivate us to actually test and certify the configuration, I believe, though I'm not the person who makes decisions about things like that.
If you mean, will NetApp filers ever pretend to be Volume Servers, and natively speak the AFS protocol, the answer is "probably not."
Alan
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Don't AFS and Coda Volume Servers (I think that's what they're called) just NFS mount their storage over a [hopefully secure] LAN?
No. Well, not AFS, I don't know about Coda. AFS uses its own file system in local partitions. DFS does have the ability to export non- native file systems, such as UFS or CD ROM, though I'm not sure if it will export something which isn't local.
If you mean, will NetApp ever get together with Transarc and get certified or whatever Transarc calls it when they bless a vendor, the answer is "mumble."
Since AFS doesn't work with non-native file systems, this is identical to the following:
If you mean, will NetApp filers ever pretend to be Volume Servers, and natively speak the AFS protocol, the answer is "probably not."
We've talked about it at various times. Transarc didn't want to play (since IBM bought them, the file system stuff has been short-changed) and when pressed, came up with a proposal that exceeded our annual engineering budget. Tied with a tiny and dwindling market, I think "probably not" is being optimistic.
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On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Nick Hilliard wrote:
According to the the Coda homepage, it is supported in Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD. Surely this isn't "virtually every recent OS", or am I really missing something? :-)
Yeah, that's the one. Virtually every recent OS I can think of
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^^^^^^^ You're missing that part ;)
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