Hi there!
I've been asked some questions by our Y2K project team, specifically related to NetApp, and I'm unsure how to respond.
From the web page (http://www.netapp.com/y2k_table.html) it seems
that the only thing that is 'preliminarily evaluated' is DOT 4.1.
Can anyone give the authorative answer to:
1) Are there any plans to use a hardware clock that stores 4-digit years?
2) What Y2K tests were performed on DOT 4.1
3) Have later releases (4.1.3, 5.0, etc.) had the same tests run on them before release?
4) Can customers get access to NetApp test plans and results, directly or via a non-disclosure agreement?
More generally, are people inclined to believe that, once certified by NetApp, the appliances can be treated as 'any other' NFS server by client machines, or would you advocate specific interoperational testing with NetApp kit?
Cheers, Mike Thomson
Thomson, Michael wrote:
Hi there!
I've been asked some questions by our Y2K project team, specifically related to NetApp, and I'm unsure how to respond.
From the web page (http://www.netapp.com/y2k_table.html) it seems
that the only thing that is 'preliminarily evaluated' is DOT 4.1.
Can anyone give the authorative answer to:
- Are there any plans to use a hardware clock that stores 4-digit years?
No. We have modified the software to compensate for the hardware.
- What Y2K tests were performed on DOT 4.1
We used a different approach. We "grep"ed the source and looked for date related function/formatting. We then looked at the code and made appropriate changes where necessary. This was done to the Data ONTAP 4.1 code base.
- Have later releases (4.1.3, 5.0, etc.) had the same tests run on them before release?
We didn't actually develop a set of tests, so the answer is no. However, we have been looking at code as we create each release. We have uncovered two minor bugs which are targeted to be fixed in the release following the 5.0x release. I expect it will be out in early summer.
A complete test plan/certification plan is under development now. We have committed that before the end of calendar 1998 we will test and certify our products. We do not anticipate requiring any further changes, but if they are necessary we will have a release before the end of the year that incorporates any required changes.
- Can customers get access to NetApp test plans and results, directly or via a non-disclosure agreement?
Sorry, no this is not possible. However, this is an excellent suggestion and I will put in an RFE to allow this.
More generally, are people inclined to believe that, once certified by NetApp, the appliances can be treated as 'any other' NFS server by client machines, or would you advocate specific interoperational testing with NetApp kit?
It would be prudent for you to do your own testing with the specific applications/clients that you use, but assuming your clients are Y2K certified and your applications are Y2K certified then you shouldn't have any issues.
Cheers, Mike Thomson -- \|||// Minds are like parachutes; (@ @) They only work when open. *---oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------------*
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- What Y2K tests were performed on DOT 4.1
We used a different approach. We "grep"ed the source and looked for date related function/formatting. We then looked at the code and made appropriate changes where necessary. This was done to the Data ONTAP 4.1 code base.
I was wondering. Won't it be worthwhile doing , what I would call, "the mother of all tests", setting one filer at your lab to say, Dec. 31st 1999, 23:50 hours and see how things are in the next twenty four hours under load? Perhaps you have done this:-)
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From: Paul Norman pnorman@netapp.com Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:15:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Y2K Testing & compliance To: "Thomson, Michael" mt53590@GlaxoWellcome.co.uk Cc: "'toasters@mathworks.com'" toasters@mathworks.com
Thomson, Michael wrote:
Hi there!
I've been asked some questions by our Y2K project team, specifically related to NetApp, and I'm unsure how to respond.
From the web page (http://www.netapp.com/y2k_table.html) it seems
that the only thing that is 'preliminarily evaluated' is DOT 4.1.
Can anyone give the authorative answer to:
- Are there any plans to use a hardware clock that stores 4-digit years?
No. We have modified the software to compensate for the hardware.
- What Y2K tests were performed on DOT 4.1
We used a different approach. We "grep"ed the source and looked for date related function/formatting. We then looked at the code and made appropriate changes where necessary. This was done to the Data ONTAP 4.1 code base.
- Have later releases (4.1.3, 5.0, etc.) had the same tests run on them before release?
We didn't actually develop a set of tests, so the answer is no. However, we have been looking at code as we create each release. We have uncovered two minor bugs which are targeted to be fixed in the release following the 5.0x release. I expect it will be out in early summer.
A complete test plan/certification plan is under development now. We have committed that before the end of calendar 1998 we will test and certify our products. We do not anticipate requiring any further changes, but if they are necessary we will have a release before the end of the year that incorporates any required changes.
- Can customers get access to NetApp test plans and results, directly or via a non-disclosure agreement?
Sorry, no this is not possible. However, this is an excellent suggestion and I will put in an RFE to allow this.
More generally, are people inclined to believe that, once certified by NetApp, the appliances can be treated as 'any other' NFS server by client machines, or would you advocate specific interoperational testing with NetApp kit?
It would be prudent for you to do your own testing with the specific applications/clients that you use, but assuming your clients are Y2K certified and your applications are Y2K certified then you shouldn't have any issues.
Cheers, Mike Thomson -- \|||// Minds are like parachutes; (@ @) They only work when open. *---oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------------*
- Michael Thomson Email: mt53590@ggr.co.uk *
- Unix Specialist Internal: 782 4393 *
- Glaxo Wellcome External: 01438 764 393 *
Fax: 01438 763 204 *- .oooO Oooo. Mobile: 0498 725 047 *
*--( )---( )-----------------------------------* \ ( ) / (Quote: Sir James Dewar) _) (_/
-- Paul Norman, Product Manager Direct: (408) 367-3756 Network Appliance E-Mail: pnorman@netapp.com 2770 San Tomas Expressway Corp: (408) 367-3100 Santa Clara, CA 95051 Web: WWW.NetApp.Com
-- End original message --
---philip thomas
Philip Thomas wrote:
- What Y2K tests were performed on DOT 4.1
We used a different approach. We "grep"ed the source and looked for date related function/formatting. We then looked at the code and made appropriate changes where necessary. This was done to the Data ONTAP 4.1 code base.
I was wondering. Won't it be worthwhile doing , what I would call, "the mother of all tests", setting one filer at your lab to say, Dec. 31st 1999, 23:50 hours and see how things are in the next twenty four hours under load? Perhaps you have done this:-)
We have not done this....yet.
We don't have the test plan written, but I wouldn't be surprised if engineering decides to do a test like this.
Mike,
You might not remember sending me this query last April. You asked about access to tests plans. I responded that it sounded like a good idea and I would look into it. Well it took a little longer than I expected, but we now have a mechanism to enable our customers to have copies of our Y2K test plans and results.
We have developed a special one way NDA specifically for the Y2K test plans/results. If you are still interested, e-mail me and I will send you a WORD doc file which you can print out, sign, and send back to me. Once I get the signed NDA, I will e-mail you the plans/results in WORD doc format.
Thomson, Michael wrote:
Hi there!
I've been asked some questions by our Y2K project team, specifically related to NetApp, and I'm unsure how to respond.
. . .>
- Can customers get access to NetApp test plans and results, directly or via a non-disclosure agreement?
Hello,
I presume all F520 filers are Y2K compliant ? I ask because I've got one.
:)
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Norman [mailto:pnorman@netapp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 9:24 PM To: Thomson, Michael Cc: 'toasters@mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Y2K Testing & compliance
Mike,
You might not remember sending me this query last April. You asked about access to tests plans. I responded that it sounded like a good idea and I would look into it. Well it took a little longer than I expected, but we now have a mechanism to enable our customers to have copies of our Y2K test plans and results.
We have developed a special one way NDA specifically for the Y2K test plans/results. If you are still interested, e-mail me and I will send you a WORD doc file which you can print out, sign, and send back to me. Once I get the signed NDA, I will e-mail you the plans/results in WORD doc format.
Thomson, Michael wrote:
Hi there!
I've been asked some questions by our Y2K project team, specifically related to NetApp, and I'm unsure how to respond.
. . .>
- Can customers get access to NetApp test plans and results, directly or via a non-disclosure agreement?
-- Paul Norman, Product Manager Direct: (408) 367-3756 Network Appliance E-Mail: pnorman@netapp.com 2770 San Tomas Expressway Corp: (408) 367-3100 Santa Clara, CA 95051 Web: WWW.NetApp.Com
The corporate Y2K statement is on the public web site: http://www.netapp.com/y2k.html
With an upgrade to the 5.1 GA (5.1.2) release which is due out in a week or two, the F520 will be Y2K compliant.
Raymond Brennan wrote:
Hello,
I presume all F520 filers are Y2K compliant ? I ask because I've got one.
:)
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Norman [mailto:pnorman@netapp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 9:24 PM To: Thomson, Michael Cc: 'toasters@mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Y2K Testing & compliance
Mike,
You might not remember sending me this query last April. You asked about access to tests plans. I responded that it sounded like a good idea and I would look into it. Well it took a little longer than I expected, but we now have a mechanism to enable our customers to have copies of our Y2K test plans and results.
We have developed a special one way NDA specifically for the Y2K test plans/results. If you are still interested, e-mail me and I will send you a WORD doc file which you can print out, sign, and send back to me. Once I get the signed NDA, I will e-mail you the plans/results in WORD doc format.
Thomson, Michael wrote:
Hi there!
I've been asked some questions by our Y2K project team, specifically related to NetApp, and I'm unsure how to respond.
. . .>
- Can customers get access to NetApp test plans and results, directly or via a non-disclosure agreement?
-- Paul Norman, Product Manager Direct: (408) 367-3756 Network Appliance E-Mail: pnorman@netapp.com 2770 San Tomas Expressway Corp: (408) 367-3100 Santa Clara, CA 95051 Web: WWW.NetApp.Com
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