What tools to do you use to administer and manage your filer(s)? I am not the greatest fan of Filerview and was wondering how good is DataFabric Manager. Any other tools out there?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Jason Storm wrote:
What tools to do you use to administer and manage your filer(s)? I am not the greatest fan of Filerview and was wondering how good is DataFabric Manager. Any other tools out there?
To give you my 2 cents...
I don't know what you think about when you say "administer and manage", I have some RRDs and DFM to see the volume utilization. The real management is done via rsh/telnet/snmp (in that order) at my side - rsh with some shell features (e.g. loops...) is really nice if you want to perform some operation over a farm of filers. There seem to be a lot of people on the list and at netapp side praising the shit out of DFM but for me dfm is just like filerview in different colors. ;-) I think the tools typical netapp admins use depend on the work they have to do - for example: I never needed to work with quotas or CIFS, maybe DFM/filerview is great with that.
Just to add, I find snmp combined with mrtg provides sufficient view into the filer's operations. Telnet/rsh for any automated things. I find if you consider it a unix machines, all the same rules apply. It has a syslog which should be monitored, it can send snmp traps, etc. I have never found anything to be unclear from the command line and nothing that couldn't be monitored with mrtg or an external script plugged into mrtg.
Jerry
--- Stefan Funke bundy@arcor-ip.de wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Jason Storm wrote:
What tools to do you use to administer and manage
your filer(s)? I
am not the greatest fan of Filerview and was
wondering how good is
DataFabric Manager. Any other tools out there?
To give you my 2 cents...
I don't know what you think about when you say "administer and manage", I have some RRDs and DFM to see the volume utilization. The real management is done via rsh/telnet/snmp (in that order) at my side - rsh with some shell features (e.g. loops...) is really nice if you want to perform some operation over a farm of filers. There seem to be a lot of people on the list and at netapp side praising the shit out of DFM but for me dfm is just like filerview in different colors. ;-) I think the tools typical netapp admins use depend on the work they have to do - for example: I never needed to work with quotas or CIFS, maybe DFM/filerview is great with that.
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Jerry, Would you mind sharing your mrtg configs? I am interested in setting up a mrtg/rrd system to monitor the filers. thanks -G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry" juanino@yahoo.com To: "Stefan Funke" bundy@arcor-ip.de; "Jason Storm" filerdude2000@yahoo.com Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: Re: Tool to manage filers
Just to add, I find snmp combined with mrtg provides sufficient view into the filer's operations. Telnet/rsh for any automated things. I find if you consider it a unix machines, all the same rules apply. It has a syslog which should be monitored, it can send snmp traps, etc. I have never found anything to be unclear from the command line and nothing that couldn't be monitored with mrtg or an external script plugged into mrtg.
Jerry
--- Stefan Funke bundy@arcor-ip.de wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Jason Storm wrote:
What tools to do you use to administer and manage
your filer(s)? I
am not the greatest fan of Filerview and was
wondering how good is
DataFabric Manager. Any other tools out there?
To give you my 2 cents...
I don't know what you think about when you say "administer and manage", I have some RRDs and DFM to see the volume utilization. The real management is done via rsh/telnet/snmp (in that order) at my side - rsh with some shell features (e.g. loops...) is really nice if you want to perform some operation over a farm of filers. There seem to be a lot of people on the list and at netapp side praising the shit out of DFM but for me dfm is just like filerview in different colors. ;-) I think the tools typical netapp admins use depend on the work they have to do - for example: I never needed to work with quotas or CIFS, maybe DFM/filerview is great with that.
-- Stefan Funke eMail : bundy@arcor-ip.de Arcor AG & Co. KG Otto-Volger-Strasse 19 D-65843 Sulzbach PGP Key : http://tbd.arcor.de/keys/bundy.asc
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I used the mrtg-filer package from netapp(very old) and modified it a little. I've been meaning to clean it up so it's useable by others, but in short:
1. Installed the mrtg-filer package. 2. Modified retrieve-filer-nets to support 64 bit values in stead of 32bit values via bitshifting. 3. Added a retrieve-filer-iscsi piece of iscsi stats. 4. Took out an if in there for very old versions of Data On-tap that was causing it to break in 6.4.
I would share the configs, but they use different versions of snmpget and a lot of specific stuff to my environment that make them very un-portable at this time. I do have on my list to upgrade to the latest mrtg and re-do the configs from scratch making them portable as I go.
Jerry
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Jerry, Would you mind sharing your mrtg configs? I am interested in setting up a mrtg/rrd system to monitor the filers. thanks -G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry" juanino@yahoo.com To: "Stefan Funke" bundy@arcor-ip.de; "Jason Storm" filerdude2000@yahoo.com Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: Re: Tool to manage filers
Just to add, I find snmp combined with mrtg provides
sufficient
view into the filer's operations. Telnet/rsh for
any
automated things. I find if you consider it a
unix
machines, all the same rules apply. It has a
syslog
which should be monitored, it can send snmp traps, etc. I have never found anything to be unclear
from
the command line and nothing that couldn't be monitored with mrtg or an external script plugged
into
mrtg.
Jerry
--- Stefan Funke bundy@arcor-ip.de wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Jason
Storm
wrote:
What tools to do you use to administer and
manage
your filer(s)? I
am not the greatest fan of Filerview and was
wondering how good is
DataFabric Manager. Any other tools out
there?
To give you my 2 cents...
I don't know what you think about when you say "administer and manage", I have some RRDs and DFM to see the
volume
utilization. The real management is done via rsh/telnet/snmp (in
that
order) at my side - rsh with some shell features (e.g.
loops...)
is really nice if you want to perform some operation over a farm
of
filers. There seem to be a lot of people on the list and at netapp
side
praising the shit out of DFM but for me dfm is just like filerview
in
different colors. ;-) I think the tools typical netapp admins use depend on the work they have to do - for example: I never needed to work with quotas or CIFS, maybe DFM/filerview is great with that.
-- Stefan Funke eMail : bundy@arcor-ip.de Arcor AG & Co. KG Otto-Volger-Strasse 19 D-65843 Sulzbach PGP Key : http://tbd.arcor.de/keys/bundy.asc
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