Hi
I don't have experience with SAN.
My question is:
Can I connect directly a SAN tape with a FAS270c, without the use of a SAN switch between them?
Thanks
Luis
Hi Luis,
i do not know what you mean with "SAN-tape" but if you think about a tape drive with a LC-port for 50µ fibre-optic-cable then the answer is yes.
You can connect it directly to your FAS270. The only premise is that the port on the FAS270 is configured as an initiator. You can use "sysconfig -t" to validate if you filer has found your tape.
Best Regards
Jochen
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Luis Sanchez R Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:48 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Tape Directly connected
Hi
I don't have experience with SAN.
My question is:
Can I connect directly a SAN tape with a FAS270c, without the use of a SAN switch between them?
Thanks
Luis
Yeah that should work fine. I've not done it, but as long as the tape device is supported by ontap, it should just work.
-Blake
On 6/7/07, Luis Sanchez R lsanchez@isc.cl wrote:
Hi
I don't have experience with SAN.
My question is:
Can I connect directly a SAN tape with a FAS270c, without the use of a SAN switch between them?
Thanks
Luis
As long as you have an extra loop interface on the 270 it will work.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Blake Golliher Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:28 AM To: Luis Sanchez R Cc: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Tape Directly connected
Yeah that should work fine. I've not done it, but as long as the tape device is supported by ontap, it should just work.
-Blake
On 6/7/07, Luis Sanchez R lsanchez@isc.cl wrote:
Hi
I don't have experience with SAN.
My question is:
Can I connect directly a SAN tape with a FAS270c, without the use of a SAN switch between them?
Thanks
Luis
Yep. We do this in one of our branch offices. Depending on your backup software, you may even be able to connect just one drive within an existing library.
We have an Overland Data NEO 4000 with 4 x LTO-2 drives in this branch. Two drives go to our Networker server for general system backups. The other two are cabled directly to their FAS270 (no switch). In this situation, media management is handled by the Networker server while the filer is responsible for spinning the data to the tapes.
One thing to watch out for is the ability to mix NDMP backups with other backups. Some software will let you do it, and other software will require that a drive be designated for NDMP only. Ours are dedicated here.
Jeff Mery - MCSE, MCP National Instruments
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Luis Sanchez R lsanchez@isc.cl Sent by: owner-toasters@mathworks.com 06/07/2007 10:48 AM
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Subject Tape Directly connected
Hi
I don't have experience with SAN.
My question is:
Can I connect directly a SAN tape with a FAS270c, without the use of a SAN switch between them?
Thanks
Luis
In the cases where people have done this - are extra DS14 shelves involved? I was told that the only way to get my tape library attached to a 270c with external shelves is with a fiber switch in the middle of it all.
Thanks,
MarkZ
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From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mery Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: Luis Sanchez R Cc: owner-toasters@mathworks.com; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Tape Directly connected
Yep. We do this in one of our branch offices. Depending on your backup software, you may even be able to connect just one drive within an existing library.
We have an Overland Data NEO 4000 with 4 x LTO-2 drives in this branch. Two drives go to our Networker server for general system backups. The other two are cabled directly to their FAS270 (no switch). In this situation, media management is handled by the Networker server while the filer is responsible for spinning the data to the tapes.
One thing to watch out for is the ability to mix NDMP backups with other backups. Some software will let you do it, and other software will require that a drive be designated for NDMP only. Ours are dedicated here.
Jeff Mery - MCSE, MCP National Instruments
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Hi
I don't have experience with SAN.
My question is:
Can I connect directly a SAN tape with a FAS270c, without the use of a SAN switch between them?
Thanks
Luis
In many cases it is very worthwile to consult the system configuration guides at now: ( http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/hardware/NetApp/syscfg/scdot722 /index.htm ) The FAS270 and FAS270c do not support expansion adapters. They have the following onboard interfaces:
* Two onboard 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T copper interfaces * One internal 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T copper interface for communication between the two system modules of a FAS270c * One onboard 1-Gb fibre-channel interface for connection to additional shelves * One onboard 2-Gb optical fibre-channel interface that functions as an initiator for tape-drives or as a FCP target-mode interface
The interface used for tape does not support shelves.
Bye Ernie
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From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Mark "Z" Zytkovicz Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2007 13:09 To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Tape Directly connected
In the cases where people have done this - are extra DS14 shelves involved? I was told that the only way to get my tape library attached to a 270c with external shelves is with a fiber switch in the middle of it all.
Thanks,
MarkZ
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From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mery Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: Luis Sanchez R Cc: owner-toasters@mathworks.com; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Tape Directly connected
Yep. We do this in one of our branch offices. Depending on your backup software, you may even be able to connect just one drive within an existing library.
We have an Overland Data NEO 4000 with 4 x LTO-2 drives in this branch. Two drives go to our Networker server for general system backups. The other two are cabled directly to their FAS270 (no switch). In this situation, media management is handled by the Networker server while the filer is responsible for spinning the data to the tapes.
One thing to watch out for is the ability to mix NDMP backups with other backups. Some software will let you do it, and other software will require that a drive be designated for NDMP only. Ours are dedicated here.
Jeff Mery - MCSE, MCP National Instruments
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Luis Sanchez R lsanchez@isc.cl Sent by: owner-toasters@mathworks.com
06/07/2007 10:48 AM
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Tape Directly connected
Hi
I don't have experience with SAN.
My question is:
Can I connect directly a SAN tape with a FAS270c, without the use of a SAN switch between them?
Thanks
Luis
We don't support shelves on switches on FAS270.
FAS270 has two FC ports. - One only for disk, - one for tape (as initiator either direct or SAN) OR as target for FCP SAN
In other words, you can have add-on shelves either way, but you can't have SAN target AND tape.
Peter
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From: Mark "Z" Zytkovicz [mailto:markz@ipa.cfa.harvard.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:09 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Tape Directly connected
In the cases where people have done this - are extra DS14 shelves involved? I was told that the only way to get my tape library attached to a 270c with external shelves is with a fiber switch in the middle of it all.
Thanks,
MarkZ
________________________________
From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mery Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: Luis Sanchez R Cc: owner-toasters@mathworks.com; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Tape Directly connected
Yep. We do this in one of our branch offices. Depending on your backup software, you may even be able to connect just one drive within an existing library.
We have an Overland Data NEO 4000 with 4 x LTO-2 drives in this branch. Two drives go to our Networker server for general system backups. The other two are cabled directly to their FAS270 (no switch). In this situation, media management is handled by the Networker server while the filer is responsible for spinning the data to the tapes.
One thing to watch out for is the ability to mix NDMP backups with other backups. Some software will let you do it, and other software will require that a drive be designated for NDMP only. Ours are dedicated here.
Jeff Mery - MCSE, MCP National Instruments
------------------------------------------------------------------------ - "Allow me to extol the virtues of the Net Fairy, and of all the fantastic dorks that make the nice packets go from here to there. Amen." TB - Penny Arcade ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -
Luis Sanchez R lsanchez@isc.cl Sent by: owner-toasters@mathworks.com
06/07/2007 10:48 AM
To
toasters@mathworks.com
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Subject
Tape Directly connected
Hi
I don't have experience with SAN.
My question is:
Can I connect directly a SAN tape with a FAS270c, without the use of a SAN switch between them?
Thanks
Luis