Ok, so if you can humor a newbie for a few more questions I'd appreciate it. I have a similar configuration with a tray off each slot. I can dasy-chain on more trays? Also, could I use a generic hot-swap SCSI cabinet? And if I put 9 gig drives in them, any special ones?
Also, I notice on the sysconfig that both slot0 and 9 use Qlogic ISP 1020A scsi controllers. As best as I can see those are discontinued, but they're standard PCI scsi controllers -- anyone dropped in another PCI scsi controller and see what it does?
And what's with your CPU speed?
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Luke Gain wrote:
I think the scsi card was made by netapp. so your only option may be the slot0 controller.
Here is my 330 config fwiw.. (check out the cpu speed :) -Luke
sysconfig -v
NetApp Release 4.3.4: Wed Apr 22 16:25:06 PDT 1998 System ID: 0016781651 slot 0: System Board 192 MHz (NetApp System Board I rev-b) Firmware release: 1.6_i Memory Size: 256 MB slot 0: SCSI Host Adapter 0 (QLogic ISP 1020A) Firmware Version 2.13 Clock Rate 40MHz. 0: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 1: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 2: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 3: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 4: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 6: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 5: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) In-Band Enclosure Services 0 Swap Events, 0 Enclosure Events slot 0: Ethernet Controller e0 MAC Address: 00:a0:98:00:08:ce (100tx-fd) slot 6: NVRAM (NetApp NVRAM I) Revision: D1 Serial Number: 4435 Memory Size: 8 MB Battery 1 Status: 100% (3.18v) Battery 2 Status: 100% (3.18v) slot 9: Dual SCSI Host Adapter (NetApp SCSI Adapter I) SCSI Host Adapter 9a (Qlogic ISP 1020A) Firmware Version 2.13 Clock Rate 40MHz. 0: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 1: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 2: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 3: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 4: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 5: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 6: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) In-Band Enclosure Services 0 Swap Events, 0 Enclosure Events SCSI Host Adapter 9b (Qlogic ISP 1020A) Firmware Version 2.13 Clock Rate 40MHz. 0: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 1: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 2: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 3: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 4: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 6: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) 5: SEAGATE ST15230N 0638 Size=3.9GB (8386733 blocks) In-Band Enclosure Services 0 Swap Events, 0 Enclosure EventsYes, that helps alot! Any idea on adding another scsi card?
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Luke Gain wrote:
Jay,
I have found that standard Kingston 72pin parity memory works fine in both my 220 and 330. You should be able to string a 3rd shelf off of the controller on the motherboard. Don't know where to obtain the Digital Storageworks shelf (Tech Data used to sell them). Corprate Systems is normally a good source for drives. (www.corpsys.com)
Hope this helps.
-Luke
Hi all!
I was wondering if anyone can help. We are a small shop with 2 F330's with 2 disk cabinets on each one. We were looking into adding another tray on each, but were told by NetApps that they are no longer available.
All I'm looking for is to upgrade the memory, add another scsi controller, and another tray (is that asking TOO MUCH???). Questions: Can I use off the shelf memory (and what kind)? What about SCSI controllers? Where can I get disk trays? Could we instead replace the drives with 9G or 18G drives (and what model would we use)?
NetApps solution is to spend $60k+ to upgrade, and all we need is another 10G - 20G. The current system works fine, isn't overused, and could handle the expansion IF WE CAN FIND THE COMPONENTS...
Thanks for the help. By the by, I've been looking for a toaster FAQ, is there one?
Fujitsu - Nexion, St. Louis, MO Jay Orr (314) 579-6517
Fujitsu - Nexion, St. Louis, MO Jay Orr (314) 579-6517
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Cwaeth Jay Orr:
Also, I notice on the sysconfig that both slot0 and 9 use Qlogic ISP 1020A scsi controllers. As best as I can see those are discontinued, but they're standard PCI scsi controllers -- anyone dropped in another PCI scsi controller and see what it does?
Had anyone dropped in another QLogic PCI SCSI controller--say, based on the ISP1040B--they would have seen it behave like a SCSI controller. If they'd dropped in one based on the 1040 or 1040A, they also would have seen a SCSI controller but one with a distinctly higher error rate. In both cases, if the card wasn't a NetApp SCSI Host Adapter, they would have seen an unsupported configuration, naturally, which means an untested configuration, which means an unwarranted configuration, which basically means a configuration that MIGHT eat their data and no one would care or come help. (Well, we'd care, but we wouldn't help.) But you knew that already.
Had anyone dropped in a PCI SCSI controller made by anyone except QLogic, they would have seen the exact same filer as without the new controller, except that it now consumes a few milliamps more electrical power.
Mike Tuciarone Platform Software
I see. Yes, we would prefer to go with a netapps card but at last check we could not purchace a scsi controller, memory, or a disk tray for the F330 and now am searching for other means to update the system. I do appreciate the help.
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Mike Tuciarone wrote:
Cwaeth Jay Orr:
Also, I notice on the sysconfig that both slot0 and 9 use Qlogic ISP 1020A scsi controllers. As best as I can see those are discontinued, but they're standard PCI scsi controllers -- anyone dropped in another PCI scsi controller and see what it does?
Had anyone dropped in another QLogic PCI SCSI controller--say, based on the ISP1040B--they would have seen it behave like a SCSI controller. If they'd dropped in one based on the 1040 or 1040A, they also would have seen a SCSI controller but one with a distinctly higher error rate. In both cases, if the card wasn't a NetApp SCSI Host Adapter, they would have seen an unsupported configuration, naturally, which means an untested configuration, which means an unwarranted configuration, which basically means a configuration that MIGHT eat their data and no one would care or come help. (Well, we'd care, but we wouldn't help.) But you knew that already.
Had anyone dropped in a PCI SCSI controller made by anyone except QLogic, they would have seen the exact same filer as without the new controller, except that it now consumes a few milliamps more electrical power.
Mike Tuciarone Platform Software
----------- Fujitsu - Nexion, St. Louis, MO Jay Orr (314) 579-6517
On Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 12:34:30PM -0500, Jay Orr wrote:
And what's with your CPU speed?
Luke has bumped up his CPU speed using an overdrive processor. This is pretty simple to do, but NetApp claims that bus bandwidth, not CPU speed is the limiting factor in the F330/230/220 series of filers. NetApp says that there is no benefit to an overdrive, and I suspect that support is likely to blame it for any trouble you have in the future.
-Dane
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Luke Gain wrote:
Here is my 330 config fwiw.. (check out the cpu speed :) -Luke
sysconfig -v
NetApp Release 4.3.4: Wed Apr 22 16:25:06 PDT 1998 System ID: 0016781651 slot 0: System Board 192 MHz (NetApp System Board I rev-b)
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On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Jay Orr wrote:
I can dasy-chain on more trays?
That depends on what kind of SCSI the shelves used and how many disks you already have in them. I should look into this, just to satisfy my curiosity.
Also, could I use a generic hot-swap SCSI cabinet?
The cabinet is basically a cable which also happens to short the right pins on the drives to give them the right IDs.
And if I put 9 gig drives in them, any special ones?
That should not matter as long as they support all the SCSI commands that the drives selected by NAC do. I think you should be fine with any >= 9GB drives.
Also, I notice on the sysconfig that both slot0 and 9 use Qlogic ISP 1020A scsi controllers. As best as I can see those are discontinued, but they're standard PCI scsi controllers -- anyone dropped in another PCI scsi controller and see what it does?
There is no such thing as a "standard pci scsi controller." You're at the mercy of NACs OS for this. This is one piece of glue that they must support. However, like I said, if you put new software on the box you should be able to buy a recent PCI scsi controller even if it will be NAC selling it.
And what's with your CPU speed?
Overclocked NACs, sounds good to me, as long as you have another CPU sitting in a drawer ready to replace the one running, and your users are ready to live without their data for a couple minutes while you swap out the damn thing.
Tom
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