I post this here in case you guys at NetApp have not seen it.
http://bsd.slashdot.org/bsd/05/03/13/1847246.shtml?tid=137&tid=162&t...
Network Appliance should donate a filer (Score:1) by Okijames (309689) on Tuesday March 15, @11:00AM (#11943572)
Network Appliance a.k.a NetApp is noticeably absent from the OpenBSD donations page (www.openbsd.org/donations.html). Anyone who uses a NetApp knows immediately that the OnTap OS is BSD, always has been BSD.
Considering the Billions (yes, Billions) of dollars in revenue NetApp has derived from the BSDs, I am appalled at the company's lack of contribution back to the BSD community!
Considering that a good number of their founders, engineers, and developers were educated at Berkeley (yes the B in BSD), I am doubly appalled at the company's lack of contribution!
Now OpenBSD is looking for some storage and NetApp sits by while a POS Dell array is considered? You know, Dell, as in EMC's (NetApp's biggest competitor) biggest partner!
HELLO? NetApp? HELLO? You should make sure that all the BSDs host their CVS repositories on NetApp, a nice BSD based platform.
FWIW... Yes, I contribute. I have standing subscriptions and kick in a few extra bucks when needed.
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leizaola@hk.com (Maren S. Leizaola) wrote:
I post this here in case you guys at NetApp have not seen it.
http://bsd.slashdot.org/bsd/05/03/13/1847246.shtml?tid=137&tid=162&t...
Well, I am glad to see that piece of trollery has now had a reply:
< Re:Network Appliance should donate a filer (Score:0) < by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 15, @01:05PM (#11944946) < < The theory that "OnTap OS is BSD, has always been BSD" is not grounded < in fact. While it is true that there is free UCB s/w included in OnTap, < and NetApp has benefited from it, I can assure you that the "OS kernel" < is NOT BSD. Or Mach. Or (insert favorite OS here). Since it has no < "command set" per se, the commands also aren't from BSD. < < You'd have to ask some current NetApp person about the current list of < components that are derived from free software, but when I was there < (in the OnTap 6.0->6.4 timeframe), I can assure you that amount of < BSD-derived code was quite small. < < Which isn't to say that NetApp shouldn't consider making a donation. But < don't walk in telling NetApp that they "owe you" because they're using < your OS to make money. Because they're not.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 01:44:25AM +0800, Maren S. Leizaola wrote: | Network Appliance a.k.a NetApp is noticeably absent from the OpenBSD | donations page (www.openbsd.org/donations.html). Anyone who uses a | NetApp knows immediately that the OnTap OS is BSD, always has been | BSD.
The fact that NetApp used some 4.xBSD and NetBSD code (most of which predates the existance of OpenBSD) doesn't mean that NetApp "owes" the OpenBSD project anything.
AFAICT, the "BSD" code that NetApp uses (or has used) includes:
* The TCP/IP stack from BSD Net/2 and 4.4BSD-lite.
* The NetBSD/alpha port was originally written by Chris Demetriou for NetBSD (whilst he was at CMU). NetApp appears to have used that to get OnTAP running on the Alpha-based 630 and 7xx series of Filers and NetCaches.
Luke.
(Speaking for myself, not for NetBSD or NetApp).
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