Hello Toasters,
I found a ton of information regarding fixing misalignment issues in virtual environments. However, I am interested in how to resolve misalignment on a physical machine. The only way I am aware of is to create a new LUN and perform a host based copy of the data to the new LUN. Is this my only option or are there any other methods that require less overhead/downtime?
Here is the situation:
Server OS = Windows 2008 Server LUN Type = Windows 2008 Partition Type = MBR (W2K3)
How did we get a W2K3 MBR partition out of a Windows 2008 server? We didnt. The LUN was originally created by a W2K3 machine while using an EMC storage array. The W2K3 server was eventually retired and the LUN was presented to the W2K8 machine.
The LUN was then migrated to a NetApp array using a block for block mirror of the data from the EMC LUN to the NetApp LUN. Unfortunately, the NetApp LUN was created as a windows_2008 lun type because it was going to be used by a Windows 2008 server - this is where the mistake was made. So now, we have a Windows Server 2008 box with a disk using a 2003-MBR partition type on windows_2008 lun type. Again, I'd like to fix the misalignment issue in the easiest way possible. Creating a new lun and performing a host based copy of the data is doable but requires a fair amount of overhead. Just wondering if there is a more efficient way to resolve lun alignment issues with physical machines.
Thanks! -Phil
Phil,
Take a look at the Paragon Alignment Tool (http://www.paragon-software.com/home/partition-alignment/). It fixes alignment issues on both physical and virtual disks.
Regards,
André M. Clark | Sr. Consulting Engineer, Team Lead | Insight Integrated Systems http://www.insightintegrated.com/ | 917.388.8236
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From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Philbert Rupkins Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:54 To: toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Fixing LUN Misalignment on Physical Machines
Hello Toasters,
I found a ton of information regarding fixing misalignment issues in virtual environments. However, I am interested in how to resolve misalignment on a physical machine. The only way I am aware of is to create a new LUN and perform a host based copy of the data to the new LUN. Is this my only option or are there any other methods that require less overhead/downtime?
Here is the situation:
Server OS = Windows 2008 Server
LUN Type = Windows 2008
Partition Type = MBR (W2K3)
How did we get a W2K3 MBR partition out of a Windows 2008 server? We didnt. The LUN was originally created by a W2K3 machine while using an EMC storage array. The W2K3 server was eventually retired and the LUN was presented to the W2K8 machine.
The LUN was then migrated to a NetApp array using a block for block mirror of the data from the EMC LUN to the NetApp LUN. Unfortunately, the NetApp LUN was created as a windows_2008 lun type because it was going to be used by a Windows 2008 server - this is where the mistake was made. So now, we have a Windows Server 2008 box with a disk using a 2003-MBR partition type on windows_2008 lun type.
Again, I'd like to fix the misalignment issue in the easiest way possible. Creating a new lun and performing a host based copy of the data is doable but requires a fair amount of overhead. Just wondering if there is a more efficient way to resolve lun alignment issues with physical machines.
Thanks!
-Phil
Hi Andre,
Thanks for the information. I'll definitely look into the tool. We may be forced to go the paid route as it may pay for itself in the long run.
However, the preference is to use a free alignment procedure for physical machines. So, to rephrase my question, are there any free procedures and/or utilities to correct lun alignment on a phyiscal machines? A host based copy to a new LUN is one free solution but just wondering if there are any other procedures to correct alignment issues on physical machines that are not as tedious as the host based copy?
Thanks, Phil
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Clark, Andre aclark@insightinvestments.comwrote:
Phil,****
Take a look at the Paragon Alignment Tool ( http://www.paragon-software.com/home/partition-alignment/). It fixes alignment issues on both physical and virtual disks. ****
*Regards,*
*André M. Clark **| Sr. Consulting Engineer, Team Lead | Insight Integrated Systems http://www.insightintegrated.com/ | 917.388.8236*
*Tell me I will forget... Show me I may remember... Involve me I WILL UNDERSTAND!!!*
*Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible!!!*****
*From:* toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] *On Behalf Of *Philbert Rupkins *Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2013 11:54 *To:* toasters@teaparty.net *Subject:* Fixing LUN Misalignment on Physical Machines****
Hello Toasters,****
I found a ton of information regarding fixing misalignment issues in virtual environments. However, I am interested in how to resolve misalignment on a physical machine. The only way I am aware of is to create a new LUN and perform a host based copy of the data to the new LUN. Is this my only option or are there any other methods that require less overhead/downtime?****
Here is the situation:****
Server OS = Windows 2008 Server ****
LUN Type = Windows 2008****
Partition Type = MBR (W2K3)****
How did we get a W2K3 MBR partition out of a Windows 2008 server? We didnt. The LUN was originally created by a W2K3 machine while using an EMC storage array. The W2K3 server was eventually retired and the LUN was presented to the W2K8 machine. ****
The LUN was then migrated to a NetApp array using a block for block mirror of the data from the EMC LUN to the NetApp LUN. Unfortunately, the NetApp LUN was created as a windows_2008 lun type because it was going to be used by a Windows 2008 server - this is where the mistake was made. So now, we have a Windows Server 2008 box with a disk using a 2003-MBR partition type on windows_2008 lun type.****
Again, I'd like to fix the misalignment issue in the easiest way possible. Creating a new lun and performing a host based copy of the data is doable but requires a fair amount of overhead. Just wondering if there is a more efficient way to resolve lun alignment issues with physical machines.****
Thanks!****
-Phil****
I believe even the mbralign is making another copy of the volume - which seems like it would be just as 'tedious'
Are you trying to minimize down time? Risk?
Jac Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message----- From: Philbert Rupkins philbertrupkins@gmail.com Sender: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 16:53:34 To: Clark, Andreaclark@insightinvestments.com Cc: toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: Fixing LUN Misalignment on Physical Machines
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Hi Phil, The issue is a physical one and will require a physical solution, ie, the move of the data. You want to minimise overhead and downtime so here is a method I use with some migrations. Unfortunately you will have to incur the overhead of an additional LUN and its requisite space. If your environment is a large data warehouse or similar SQL environment then this may not be viable as typically there are a small number of large files. One of the better 'free' tools to my mind is Robocopy. There are a number of similar tools, however I find Robocopy very easy to script and it has some useful features. As an aside, with additional executables such as tail/head for Windows you can write some quite useful command language scripts.
If you create another LUN/Drive then you can immediately start to seed it. If you want to slow the copy to prevent impact overhead then you can use the /IPG switch, with retry switches set to '0' to immediately bypass in-use files (use '1' if you want them logged). If you were in a 2008R2 environment then you would also want to reduce thread use (/MT:1, for instance). Even if you have to update daily for a few days prior to say a weekend slot, then you may be in a position to have a very short downtime as you switch drives after the final sync. Hopefully not tedious at all :) Probably not the answer you want to hear, however good luck. Regards, Neil
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Philbert Rupkins Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2013 3:54 a.m. To: toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Fixing LUN Misalignment on Physical Machines
Hello Toasters,
I found a ton of information regarding fixing misalignment issues in virtual environments. However, I am interested in how to resolve misalignment on a physical machine. The only way I am aware of is to create a new LUN and perform a host based copy of the data to the new LUN. Is this my only option or are there any other methods that require less overhead/downtime?
Here is the situation:
Server OS = Windows 2008 Server LUN Type = Windows 2008 Partition Type = MBR (W2K3)
How did we get a W2K3 MBR partition out of a Windows 2008 server? We didnt. The LUN was originally created by a W2K3 machine while using an EMC storage array. The W2K3 server was eventually retired and the LUN was presented to the W2K8 machine.
The LUN was then migrated to a NetApp array using a block for block mirror of the data from the EMC LUN to the NetApp LUN. Unfortunately, the NetApp LUN was created as a windows_2008 lun type because it was going to be used by a Windows 2008 server - this is where the mistake was made. So now, we have a Windows Server 2008 box with a disk using a 2003-MBR partition type on windows_2008 lun type. Again, I'd like to fix the misalignment issue in the easiest way possible. Creating a new lun and performing a host based copy of the data is doable but requires a fair amount of overhead. Just wondering if there is a more efficient way to resolve lun alignment issues with physical machines.
Thanks! -Phil
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