When I was with Lockheed we were faced with a similar dilemma. We tested a number of Unix based solutions. The best we found was the "totalnet advanced server" by Syntax software ( www.syntax.com http://www.syntax.com ). It can take an NFS mount served by a Netapp and export it to a Mac. CAP has fallen badly behind and I honestly don't think it will ever catch up with the level of support that it gets. There are serious file locking and file rename problems with CAP and Microsoft applications. We never had the same type of problems with Syntax.

To solve the specific problem as I understood it (need to use NT authentication for the NFS mounted Appletalk share (Phew!)), I think you would have to bundle something like Syntax software with some sort of LDAP solution pointing to the PDC for user authentication. Not an easy problem to solve. It could be that Syntax has a solution nowadays. It's been a couple years since I looked into this.

I don't have anything to do with Syntax (Neither does Netapp to my knowledge) I just used it, and it worked well for Macintosh services. It might be a good place to start the search for the solution to the problem.

Graham

-----Original Message----- From: Mike Sphar [mailto:mikey@remedy.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:58 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Mac G4 with NetApp

Ah, my mistake. Thanks for the correction. I only played with the Services for Macintosh a little bit, and I foolishly assumed you could re-share a mounted network share.

Also, now that I think about it, we used to use CAP a few years ago when we needed such things and I remember it being pretty reliable and easy to maintain. Netatalk is also supposed to be good, but I've never used it.

Generally, my preference is to install new services on a server when I can rather than be forced to deploy and support new client software. Letting the client OS access data using its native capabilities usually results in less maintenance and support headaches. (Ugh, now I'm having flashbacks of supporting ChameleonNFS on hundreds of machines.)

-- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services, BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD

-----Original Message----- From: Benn, Paul [mailto:paul.benn@netapp.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:50 PM To: 'Mike Sphar'; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Mac G4 with NetApp

Just to clarify....

Exporting a CIFS share (whether from a filer or another NT server) to AFP won't work with the Microsoft service for Macintosh (at least it didn't with NT4 and AutoExNT was no help either). I tried an early W2K beta but it was no help either. The Microsoft service only supports local disk. Sorry :(

As for a gateway type product, I've only heard of NFS/AFP solutions.

Paul Benn Network Appliance

-----Original Message----- From: Mike Sphar [mailto:mikey@remedy.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:24 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Mac G4 with Netapp

As others have mentions, you could either make sure you have a good NFS or CIFS client for the Mac installed.

Or, depending on how much traffic you expect from the Mac and how many macs you have, it might be easier to re-share the Netapp through a Windows or UNIX box. Netatalk I believe is the name of a free appletalk file server for UNIX. And Windows NT/2000 Server also comes with a free Services for Macintosh package as well, I believe.

-- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services, BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD

-----Original Message----- From: Mathew Anderson [mailto:mathew@nm.net] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 9:59 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Mac G4 with Netapp

Has anyone tried to get a G4 to mount a netapp share? We have the netapp setup with both nfs and cifs, and we are using a PDC.

Any pointers on where to start? (apples KB does not help at all)..

Thanks -Mathew

Mathew Anderson Systems Administration NM Technet Oso Grande Technologies, Inc. mathew@nm.net mathew@osogrande.net