Hello All, We are in the process of planning for an upgrade of a FAS3050 cluster in single_image cfmode to a FAS3170 cluster which will also be in single_image cfmode. We have a few questions remaining:
* Do the iscsi nodenames change with a head upgrade? If yes, will this require us to change the iscsi nodename to the old systems for the iscsi clients to be able to seamlessly reconnect to the SAN after the upgrade?
* Does the FCP nodename change with the head upgrade? If yes, will it require us to change it back to the original systems for seamless reconnecting of clients?
* Do the lun serial's change with a head upgrade and does this affect clients in any way?
Thank you for any insight into this.
Hi Romeo 1. iSCSI nodename will not change.
2. FCP nodename will not change.
3. LUN S/N may change depending on the version of ONTAP. If the LUN S/Ns change, this will affect VMware ESX and any other OS that uses LUN S/N to distinguish paths to LUNs vs. different LUNs. I recommend you get a list of all LUNs and LUN S/N before the swap (lun show -v), then after the swap, verify and set the LUN S/N to the original value. filer> lun offline /vol/myvol/mylun filer> lun serial /vol/myvol/mylun mcDJ8/sjd983 filer> lun online /vol/myvol/mylun
This can be scripted. NetApp PS guys have scripts that do this. Do you have PS engaged?
For more info on the VMware implications, see KB33990 http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb33990
If you redeploy the old heads and set up iSCSI and/or FCP, you should explicitly change them since a new install will generate the same nodename/IQN/WWN/WWPNs. If they exist on the same SAN/iSAN as the new heads, you will have conflicts.
Enjoy!
Peter ________________________________
From: Romeo Theriault [mailto:romeotheriault@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:24 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Do fcp/iscsi nodenames change on a cluster head upgrade?
Hello All, We are in the process of planning for an upgrade of a FAS3050 cluster in single_image cfmode to a FAS3170 cluster which will also be in single_image cfmode. We have a few questions remaining:
* Do the iscsi nodenames change with a head upgrade? If yes, will this require us to change the iscsi nodename to the old systems for the iscsi clients to be able to seamlessly reconnect to the SAN after the upgrade?
* Does the FCP nodename change with the head upgrade? If yes, will it require us to change it back to the original systems for seamless reconnecting of clients?
* Do the lun serial's change with a head upgrade and does this affect clients in any way?
Thank you for any insight into this.
Did the behavior change where the iSCSI nodename is based on the systemid of the head?
At best I find you "may" need to rename them:
________________________________ From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Learmonth, Peter [Peter.Learmonth@netapp.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:55 PM To: Romeo Theriault; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Do fcp/iscsi nodenames change on a cluster head upgrade?
Hi Romeo 1. iSCSI nodename will not change.
2. FCP nodename will not change.
3. LUN S/N may change depending on the version of ONTAP. If the LUN S/Ns change, this will affect VMware ESX and any other OS that uses LUN S/N to distinguish paths to LUNs vs. different LUNs. I recommend you get a list of all LUNs and LUN S/N before the swap (lun show -v), then after the swap, verify and set the LUN S/N to the original value. filer> lun offline /vol/myvol/mylun filer> lun serial /vol/myvol/mylun mcDJ8/sjd983 filer> lun online /vol/myvol/mylun
This can be scripted. NetApp PS guys have scripts that do this. Do you have PS engaged?
For more info on the VMware implications, see KB33990 http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb33990
If you redeploy the old heads and set up iSCSI and/or FCP, you should explicitly change them since a new install will generate the same nodename/IQN/WWN/WWPNs. If they exist on the same SAN/iSAN as the new heads, you will have conflicts.
Enjoy!
Peter ________________________________ From: Romeo Theriault [mailto:romeotheriault@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:24 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Do fcp/iscsi nodenames change on a cluster head upgrade?
Hello All, We are in the process of planning for an upgrade of a FAS3050 cluster in single_image cfmode to a FAS3170 cluster which will also be in single_image cfmode. We have a few questions remaining:
* Do the iscsi nodenames change with a head upgrade? If yes, will this require us to change the iscsi nodename to the old systems for the iscsi clients to be able to seamlessly reconnect to the SAN after the upgrade?
* Does the FCP nodename change with the head upgrade? If yes, will it require us to change it back to the original systems for seamless reconnecting of clients?
* Do the lun serial's change with a head upgrade and does this affect clients in any way?
Thank you for any insight into this.
-- Romeo Theriault System Administrator Information Technology Services
No sir, that didn't change.
Technically, at initial setup, WWN/IQN are based on the NVRAM serial number. After that, they're stored on disk (I think in the registry), so any head or NVRAM swap will retain the previous WWPN/IQN as long as vol0 and /etc are intact. This is to avoid people having to reconfigure initiators, zoning, multipathing, volume signatures, etc.
So, in general, when you do head swaps and add shelves at the same time, get it working on the original shelves first, then add the new shelves. If the new head(s) boot with the old and new-from-factory shelves at the same time, the factory shelves will be treated as native, and the original as foreign, you'll end up running setup and get all new WWPN, IQN, etc.
I hope this helps clear it up!
Thanks
Peter
________________________________
From: Christopher Mende [mailto:Christopher.Mende@peakuptime.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:09 AM To: Learmonth, Peter; Romeo Theriault; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Do fcp/iscsi nodenames change on a cluster head upgrade?
Did the behavior change where the iSCSI nodename is based on the systemid of the head?
At best I find you "may" need to rename them:
________________________________
From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Learmonth, Peter [Peter.Learmonth@netapp.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:55 PM To: Romeo Theriault; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: Do fcp/iscsi nodenames change on a cluster head upgrade?
Hi Romeo 1. iSCSI nodename will not change.
2. FCP nodename will not change.
3. LUN S/N may change depending on the version of ONTAP. If the LUN S/Ns change, this will affect VMware ESX and any other OS that uses LUN S/N to distinguish paths to LUNs vs. different LUNs. I recommend you get a list of all LUNs and LUN S/N before the swap (lun show -v), then after the swap, verify and set the LUN S/N to the original value. filer> lun offline /vol/myvol/mylun filer> lun serial /vol/myvol/mylun mcDJ8/sjd983 filer> lun online /vol/myvol/mylun
This can be scripted. NetApp PS guys have scripts that do this. Do you have PS engaged?
For more info on the VMware implications, see KB33990 http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb33990
If you redeploy the old heads and set up iSCSI and/or FCP, you should explicitly change them since a new install will generate the same nodename/IQN/WWN/WWPNs. If they exist on the same SAN/iSAN as the new heads, you will have conflicts.
Enjoy!
Peter ________________________________
From: Romeo Theriault [mailto:romeotheriault@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:24 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Do fcp/iscsi nodenames change on a cluster head upgrade?
Hello All, We are in the process of planning for an upgrade of a FAS3050 cluster in single_image cfmode to a FAS3170 cluster which will also be in single_image cfmode. We have a few questions remaining:
* Do the iscsi nodenames change with a head upgrade? If yes, will this require us to change the iscsi nodename to the old systems for the iscsi clients to be able to seamlessly reconnect to the SAN after the upgrade?
* Does the FCP nodename change with the head upgrade? If yes, will it require us to change it back to the original systems for seamless reconnecting of clients?
* Do the lun serial's change with a head upgrade and does this affect clients in any way?
Thank you for any insight into this.
Thank you for the very clear, concise information, this is what I needed to know.
Romeo
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Learmonth, Peter < Peter.Learmonth@netapp.com> wrote:
Hi Romeo
iSCSI nodename will not change.
FCP nodename will not change.
LUN S/N may change depending on the version of ONTAP. If the LUN S/Ns
change, this will affect VMware ESX and any other OS that uses LUN S/N to distinguish paths to LUNs vs. different LUNs. I recommend you get a list of all LUNs and LUN S/N before the swap (lun show -v), then after the swap, verify and set the LUN S/N to the original value. filer> lun offline /vol/myvol/mylun filer> lun serial /vol/myvol/mylun mcDJ8/sjd983 filer> lun online /vol/myvol/mylun
This can be scripted. NetApp PS guys have scripts that do this. Do you have PS engaged?
For more info on the VMware implications, see KB33990 http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb33990
If you redeploy the old heads and set up iSCSI and/or FCP, you should explicitly change them since a new install will generate the same nodename/IQN/WWN/WWPNs. If they exist on the same SAN/iSAN as the new heads, you will have conflicts.
Enjoy!
Peter
*From:* Romeo Theriault [mailto:romeotheriault@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:24 AM *To:* toasters@mathworks.com *Subject:* Do fcp/iscsi nodenames change on a cluster head upgrade?
Hello All, We are in the process of planning for an upgrade of a FAS3050 cluster in single_image cfmode to a FAS3170 cluster which will also be in single_image cfmode. We have a few questions remaining:
- Do the iscsi nodenames change with a head upgrade? If yes, will this
require us to change the iscsi nodename to the old systems for the iscsi clients to be able to seamlessly reconnect to the SAN after the upgrade?
- Does the FCP nodename change with the head upgrade? If yes, will it
require us to change it back to the original systems for seamless reconnecting of clients?
- Do the lun serial's change with a head upgrade and does this affect
clients in any way?
Thank you for any insight into this.
-- Romeo Theriault System Administrator Information Technology Services
FCP nodenames change if you use a add-on fiber channel card as opposed to using onboard ports for target mode. At least that was our experience during the head swap (3020 to 6030). It can be changed back, but the process is a little more involved. If you only use onboard ports then the FCP nodename stays the same.
Suresh
From: Romeo Theriault [mailto:romeotheriault@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:24 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Do fcp/iscsi nodenames change on a cluster head upgrade?
Hello All, We are in the process of planning for an upgrade of a FAS3050 cluster in single_image cfmode to a FAS3170 cluster which will also be in single_image cfmode. We have a few questions remaining:
* Do the iscsi nodenames change with a head upgrade? If yes, will this require us to change the iscsi nodename to the old systems for the iscsi clients to be able to seamlessly reconnect to the SAN after the upgrade?
* Does the FCP nodename change with the head upgrade? If yes, will it require us to change it back to the original systems for seamless reconnecting of clients?
* Do the lun serial's change with a head upgrade and does this affect clients in any way?
Thank you for any insight into this.
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Christopher Mende -
Learmonth, Peter -
Romeo Theriault -
Suresh Rajagopalan