we are looking at these appliances which compress volume data on the fly and sit between the client and the filer(s). interested in hearing anyone elses success or failure stories with these devices.
thanks toasters!
Your availability is now only as good as that appliance. It also requires a bridged network to the storage. They have good promise, but I'd prefer a gateway like product instead.
-Blake
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:17 PM, No More Linux! no.more.linux@gmail.com wrote:
we are looking at these appliances which compress volume data on the fly and sit between the client and the filer(s). interested in hearing anyone elses success or failure stories with these devices.
thanks toasters!
Have you asked for a quote for NetApp Nearstore option and A-SIS license very recently? I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
But sorry no, I haven't heard much of storwize, but it seems a real good solution for O.P.S. (Other People's Storage). ;-)
Best regards, Kevin M. Parker
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we are looking at these appliances which compress volume data on the fly and sit between the client and the filer(s). interested in hearing anyone elses success or failure stories with these devices.
thanks toasters!
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Ahh yes - the infamous zero cost functionality from our friends at the big blue square arch-thingie.
I've had some awesome luck with A-SIS on NetApp, and we're preparing to roll it out into production within the next few mos.
Glenn
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Have you asked for a quote for NetApp Nearstore option and A-SIS license very recently?
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
But sorry no, I haven't heard much of storwize, but it seems a real good solution for O.P.S. (Other People's Storage). ;-)
Best regards,
Kevin M. Parker
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we are looking at these appliances which compress volume data on the fly and sit between the client and the filer(s). interested in hearing anyone elses success or failure stories with these devices.
thanks toasters!
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Hi
I had a chance at the beginning of 2007 to attend to a real demo in production site at one of the our biggest customer (it's one of the biggest service provider here in Italy) but both me and customer were deluded not for results on compression but for other things.
The demo was conducted by an engineer that came directly from Israel (EMEA hw was based there then) for the show.
Nothing to say about compression, it compresses, no doubts but you've to put as a gateway in front of your storage, you can have a bottleneck there and at that time there was also an issue about fail over protection of that appliance nics and so on.
Another thing that we did not like was the fact that then the Storewiz was certified for Ontap 7.x (don't remember exactly) and customer already had 7.z more recent...for the demo customer had to downgrade...really no good thing...
I can say, knowing very well Data Domain appliances (and the effort that that they're doing to use them as inline storage, not only nearline or backup also if you can do it now) that to have your data compressed and usable (virtually online always) there are other better solutions.
One of this could be a DD restorer, or also A-SIS from NetApp (for not heavy processes) or, why not, something like Symantec Enterprise Vault File System Archiving and more...
Bye
Da: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] Per conto di No More Linux! Inviato: venerdì 14 marzo 2008 23.17 A: toasters@mathworks.com Oggetto: anyone using the storwize data compression products?
we are looking at these appliances which compress volume data on the fly and sit between the client and the filer(s). interested in hearing anyone elses success or failure stories with these devices.
thanks toasters!
You say that a-sis is not for heavy-processes but don't give the Data Domain the same problem; in fact any inline-dedupe will perform much worse under heavy load than netapp w/a-sis, simply because a-sis dedupes on a scheduled basis.
The Data domain solution (imho) has the most important problem of being rather expensive. If you already have netapp, the incremental cost of de-dupe is negligible. (also, try running vmware esx on a data domain, I dare ya).
Glenn (the other one).
From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Milazzo Giacomo Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:18 AM To: No More Linux!; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: R: anyone using the storwize data compression products?
Hi
I had a chance at the beginning of 2007 to attend to a real demo in production site at one of the our biggest customer (it's one of the biggest service provider here in Italy) but both me and customer were deluded not for results on compression but for other things.
The demo was conducted by an engineer that came directly from Israel (EMEA hw was based there then) for the show.
Nothing to say about compression, it compresses, no doubts but you've to put as a gateway in front of your storage, you can have a bottleneck there and at that time there was also an issue about fail over protection of that appliance nics and so on.
Another thing that we did not like was the fact that then the Storewiz was certified for Ontap 7.x (don't remember exactly) and customer already had 7.z more recent...for the demo customer had to downgrade...really no good thing...
I can say, knowing very well Data Domain appliances (and the effort that that they're doing to use them as inline storage, not only nearline or backup also if you can do it now) that to have your data compressed and usable (virtually online always) there are other better solutions.
One of this could be a DD restorer, or also A-SIS from NetApp (for not heavy processes) or, why not, something like Symantec Enterprise Vault File System Archiving and more...
Bye
Da: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] Per conto di No More Linux! Inviato: venerdì 14 marzo 2008 23.17 A: toasters@mathworks.com Oggetto: anyone using the storwize data compression products?
we are looking at these appliances which compress volume data on the fly and sit between the client and the filer(s). interested in hearing anyone elses success or failure stories with these devices.
thanks toasters!
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