Hello, Art:
NetApp's standard Software License Agreement permanently ties their software to both 1) the machine's serial number and 2) the end user. Thus, if the machine is ever sold, the new end user must purchase new software licenses from NetApp (very expensive!).
However, some companies -- prior to purchase -- have negotiated agreements with NetApp that allow them to freely transfer the software user licenses on their purchased machines to a new end user. When Union Computer receives a purchase order for one of these used machines, we arrange for the original owner of the system to provide Network Appliance with information on the new end user: 1) company name and address, 2) where the machine is to be located, and 3) contact names and phone numbers. Network Appliance then processes the license transfers, free of charge.
Our buyers usually confirm the transfer of the licenses with Network Appliance before we even ship the machine.
We advise all buyers of new NetApp machines -- or any other computer hardware and software, for that matter -- to insist on transferable software licenses for the protection of their investments.
All of us --- dealers, users and the manufacturer --- benefit greatly from an active secondary market.
Regards,
Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott@unioncomputer.com
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In a message dated 1/21/2002 5:38:20 PM Central Standard Time, art@arzoon.com writes:
Scott -- please explain how some are transferable and some aren't? Do you set this up before you buy the gear? Is it additional money?
thanks
art
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From: ScottUCE@aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:05 AM To: SRoche@datalink.com; joe.luchtenberg@data-line.com; pdg@uow.edu.au; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Netapp alternatives
There ARE used NetApp systems with "used software" that CAN be re-sold, and NetApp itself will process the license transfer, free of charge, to the new owner. We have sold many of them ourselves, and NetApp has always cooperated fully.
Yes, it is true that many NetApp systems do not have transferable licenses -- but many do.
Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott@unioncomputer.com
In a message dated 1/21/2002 11:14:30 AM Central Standard Time, SRoche@datalink.com writes:
This was taken off of Netapps web page regarding transferring licences.
I think it speaks for itself as far a Netapps legal position.
All Network Appliance software license terms and conditions specify a "license to use," therefore software cannot legally transfer from one owner to another. Anyone purchasing used hardware equipment must also purchase new software licenses directly either from Network Appliance or from an authorized Network Appliance reseller. Software includes all protocols as well as streaming licenses, Snap products, and other software. Anyone trying to sell you "used software" would be violating the terms of the license. Support contracts such as warranty and maintenance agreements are also non-transferable.
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From: ScottUCE@aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:09 AM To: joe.luchtenberg@data-line.com; pdg@uow.edu.au; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Netapp alternatives
In a message dated 1/18/2002 4:06:48 PM Central Standard Time, joe.luchtenberg@data-line.com writes:
but if you're just looking to save a few $, then I would suggest considering stepping down to an F810 or even F87 before ruling out NetApp on price (I may be reading too much into your post here).
Hello, Joe:
You don't necessarily have to "step down" to an F810 or F87 -- let alone abandon NetApp altogether for Sun or Procom or Compaq -- to save money.
There are great buys on a limited number of used NetApp filers available today -- F720s, F740s and F760s with transferable NFS, CIFS and even CLUSTER licenses. As such, I don't believe there is any reason a NAS user has to settle for a "non-NetApp" solution because of price.
Regards,
Scott
Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott@unioncomputer.com