Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these certainly fit a nice price point for me.
I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050 with 12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives.
TIA
-Robert
What are you planning on serving up on them? I.e.: what types of applications, how many instances, how much usable are you needing (will help with spindle count, etc)?
I've implemented many of these in varying environments, all went very well to serve the need. My main beef with the 2020 is port count (FC and eth), but ygwypf - this is an entry level storage appliance. Port count comes back again with the 2050 when clustered - plan on losing a partner port for each active port on each node - the 2050 has 3 PCI(*) expansion slots when clustered.
Since you're going SAS, remember that storage expansion for both these systems is going to be either FC or ATA disk - so you will be creating NEW aggregates for expansion any plans outside of the storage you buy now. NetApp has proposed mixing SAS and FC together in same aggregates, this year I believe.
Overall these are very sweet systems and do extremely well, but again it depends on what you plan them for. Let me know if further questions.
Ps: seems you're looking at 4 total systems...thoughts on consolidating and buying a bigger system to do it all, with a lower end unit (2020) as backup/DR? That way you may spend a little less on H/W, but can afford Snapmirror/vault and the varying other licenses you'd need to make it all happen?
Best regards, Kevin Parker
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Robert K. Borowicz Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:48 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: FAS2000 Series
Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these certainly fit a nice price point for me.
I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050 with 12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives.
TIA
-Robert
I believe mixing SAS and FC drives in the same aggregate is fine today so you shouldn't have to create a new aggregate if you go with SAS.
-- Adam Fox adamfox@netapp.com
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:kparker2@nc.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:04 AM To: 'Robert K. Borowicz'; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: FAS2000 Series
What are you planning on serving up on them? I.e.: what types of applications, how many instances, how much usable are you needing (will help with spindle count, etc)?
I've implemented many of these in varying environments, all went very well to serve the need. My main beef with the 2020 is port count (FC and eth), but ygwypf - this is an entry level storage appliance. Port count comes back again with the 2050 when clustered - plan on losing a partner port for each active port on each node - the 2050 has 3 PCI(*) expansion slots when clustered.
Since you're going SAS, remember that storage expansion for both these systems is going to be either FC or ATA disk - so you will be creating NEW aggregates for expansion any plans outside of the storage you buy now. NetApp has proposed mixing SAS and FC together in same aggregates, this year I believe.
Overall these are very sweet systems and do extremely well, but again it depends on what you plan them for. Let me know if further questions.
Ps: seems you're looking at 4 total systems...thoughts on consolidating and buying a bigger system to do it all, with a lower end unit (2020) as backup/DR? That way you may spend a little less on H/W, but can afford Snapmirror/vault and the varying other licenses you'd need to make it all happen?
Best regards, Kevin Parker
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Robert K. Borowicz Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:48 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: FAS2000 Series
Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these certainly fit a nice price point for me.
I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050 with 12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives.
TIA
-Robert
Like Adam says ... mixing is indeed allowed as of DataOntap 7.2.4L1.
Grtz, Tom
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Fox, Adam Sent: donderdag 17 april 2008 17:44 To: Kevin Parker; Robert K. Borowicz; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: FAS2000 Series
I believe mixing SAS and FC drives in the same aggregate is fine today so you shouldn't have to create a new aggregate if you go with SAS.
-- Adam Fox adamfox@netapp.com
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:kparker2@nc.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:04 AM To: 'Robert K. Borowicz'; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: FAS2000 Series
What are you planning on serving up on them? I.e.: what types of applications, how many instances, how much usable are you needing (will help with spindle count, etc)?
I've implemented many of these in varying environments, all went very well to serve the need. My main beef with the 2020 is port count (FC and eth), but ygwypf - this is an entry level storage appliance. Port count comes back again with the 2050 when clustered - plan on losing a partner port for each active port on each node - the 2050 has 3 PCI(*) expansion slots when clustered.
Since you're going SAS, remember that storage expansion for both these systems is going to be either FC or ATA disk - so you will be creating NEW aggregates for expansion any plans outside of the storage you buy now. NetApp has proposed mixing SAS and FC together in same aggregates, this year I believe.
Overall these are very sweet systems and do extremely well, but again it depends on what you plan them for. Let me know if further questions.
Ps: seems you're looking at 4 total systems...thoughts on consolidating and buying a bigger system to do it all, with a lower end unit (2020) as backup/DR? That way you may spend a little less on H/W, but can afford Snapmirror/vault and the varying other licenses you'd need to make it all happen?
Best regards, Kevin Parker
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Robert K. Borowicz Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:48 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: FAS2000 Series
Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these certainly fit a nice price point for me.
I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050 with 12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives.
TIA
-Robert
Is there a limitation on the speed of existing FC drives? I heard only 15K drives were supported but all my drives are 10K.
On 4/17/08 11:19 PM, "De Wit Tom (Consultant)" tom.de.wit@volvo.com wrote:
Like Adam says ... mixing is indeed allowed as of DataOntap 7.2.4L1.
Grtz, Tom
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Fox, Adam Sent: donderdag 17 april 2008 17:44 To: Kevin Parker; Robert K. Borowicz; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: FAS2000 Series
I believe mixing SAS and FC drives in the same aggregate is fine today so you shouldn't have to create a new aggregate if you go with SAS.
-- Adam Fox adamfox@netapp.com
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:kparker2@nc.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:04 AM To: 'Robert K. Borowicz'; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: FAS2000 Series
What are you planning on serving up on them? I.e.: what types of applications, how many instances, how much usable are you needing (will help with spindle count, etc)?
I've implemented many of these in varying environments, all went very well to serve the need. My main beef with the 2020 is port count (FC and eth), but ygwypf - this is an entry level storage appliance. Port count comes back again with the 2050 when clustered - plan on losing a partner port for each active port on each node - the 2050 has 3 PCI(*) expansion slots when clustered.
Since you're going SAS, remember that storage expansion for both these systems is going to be either FC or ATA disk - so you will be creating NEW aggregates for expansion any plans outside of the storage you buy now. NetApp has proposed mixing SAS and FC together in same aggregates, this year I believe.
Overall these are very sweet systems and do extremely well, but again it depends on what you plan them for. Let me know if further questions.
Ps: seems you're looking at 4 total systems...thoughts on consolidating and buying a bigger system to do it all, with a lower end unit (2020) as backup/DR? That way you may spend a little less on H/W, but can afford Snapmirror/vault and the varying other licenses you'd need to make it all happen?
Best regards, Kevin Parker
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Robert K. Borowicz Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:48 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: FAS2000 Series
Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these certainly fit a nice price point for me.
I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050 with 12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives.
TIA
-Robert
Hi Neil,
You can perfectly use 10K drives with a FAS20xx system. Best practices for Netapp say however that mixing of different drives in the same aggregate should be avoided. When for example 15K SAS drives and 10K FC drives are mixed in the same aggregate, the 15K SAS drives will only do I/O's as fast as the slowest part in the aggregate, so the 10K FC drives.
When you want to get the most out of your system, mixing drives is never recommended, but it is allowed however. So always try to create a different aggregate for different types of disks (size, speed, type).
Grtz, Tom
-----Original Message----- From: Conner, Neil [mailto:neil@mbari.org] Sent: vrijdag 18 april 2008 21:02 To: De Wit Tom (Consultant); Fox, Adam; Kevin Parker; Robert K. Borowicz; Toasters Subject: Re: FAS2000 Series
Is there a limitation on the speed of existing FC drives? I heard only 15K drives were supported but all my drives are 10K.
On 4/17/08 11:19 PM, "De Wit Tom (Consultant)" tom.de.wit@volvo.com wrote:
Like Adam says ... mixing is indeed allowed as of DataOntap 7.2.4L1.
Grtz, Tom
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com
[mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]
On Behalf Of Fox, Adam Sent: donderdag 17 april 2008 17:44 To: Kevin Parker; Robert K. Borowicz; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: FAS2000 Series
I believe mixing SAS and FC drives in the same aggregate is fine today so you shouldn't have to create a new aggregate if you go with SAS.
-- Adam Fox adamfox@netapp.com
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:kparker2@nc.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:04 AM To: 'Robert K. Borowicz'; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: RE: FAS2000 Series
What are you planning on serving up on them? I.e.: what types of applications, how many instances, how much usable are you needing
(will
help with spindle count, etc)?
I've implemented many of these in varying environments, all went very well to serve the need. My main beef with the 2020 is port count (FC
and
eth), but ygwypf - this is an entry level storage appliance. Port
count
comes back again with the 2050 when clustered - plan on losing a
partner
port for each active port on each node - the 2050 has 3 PCI(*)
expansion
slots when clustered.
Since you're going SAS, remember that storage expansion for both these systems is going to be either FC or ATA disk - so you will be creating NEW aggregates for expansion any plans outside of the storage you buy now. NetApp has proposed mixing SAS and FC together in same aggregates,
this
year I believe.
Overall these are very sweet systems and do extremely well, but again
it
depends on what you plan them for. Let me know if further questions.
Ps: seems you're looking at 4 total systems...thoughts on
consolidating
and buying a bigger system to do it all, with a lower end unit (2020)
as
backup/DR? That way you may spend a little less on H/W, but can afford Snapmirror/vault and the varying other licenses you'd need to make it all happen?
Best regards, Kevin Parker
-----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com
[mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]
On Behalf Of Robert K. Borowicz Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:48 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: FAS2000 Series
Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these
certainly
fit a nice price point for me.
I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050
with
12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives.
TIA
-Robert
-
Conner, Neil -
De Wit Tom (Consultant) -
Fox, Adam -
Kevin Parker -
Robert K. Borowicz