I have an old filer that will be off support soon. Support through Netapp is way too much $$, but the system still works great... so I'd like to explore alternative options for replacing disks when they fail. Can I simply buy a fiber channel disk that matches the type in the filer on ebay or something to replace? Anyone else find a good(cheap) way to support older, but still useful machines?
thanks
NetApp disks are formatted in a special way. I _believe_ they are also labeled in a special way (ie, like HPaq does) so that the disks appear in a specific way when you perform normal SCSI Inquiries into the device type... that pretty much will prevent you from using common off-the-shelf components. I know of no way around this...
FWIW - the support agreement you get from NetApp for a year is typically MUCH cheaper than having to swap out parts if they break by paying NetApp the one-time support agreement and paying for the components themselves. It doesn't take many component swaps to overcome the cost of paying for the yearly support agreement...
Glenn
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From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Thu 3/16/2006 1:28 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: filer disk replacement
I have an old filer that will be off support soon. Support through Netapp is way too much $$, but the system still works great... so I'd like to explore alternative options for replacing disks when they fail. Can I simply buy a fiber channel disk that matches the type in the filer on ebay or something to replace? Anyone else find a good(cheap) way to support older, but still useful machines?
thanks
Of course you could purchas you parts from UCE, these are genuine NETAPP parts that have entered the aftermarket. <scw> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 02:24:48PM -0500, Glenn Walker wrote:
NetApp disks are formatted in a special way. I _believe_ they are also labeled in a special way (ie, like HPaq does) so that the disks appear in a specific way when you perform normal SCSI Inquiries into the device type... that pretty much will prevent you from using common off-the-shelf components. I know of no way around this...
FWIW - the support agreement you get from NetApp for a year is typically MUCH cheaper than having to swap out parts if they break by paying NetApp the one-time support agreement and paying for the components themselves. It doesn't take many component swaps to overcome the cost of paying for the yearly support agreement...
Glenn
From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Thu 3/16/2006 1:28 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: filer disk replacement
I have an old filer that will be off support soon. Support through Netapp is way too much $$, but the system still works great... so I'd like to explore alternative options for replacing disks when they fail. Can I simply buy a fiber channel disk that matches the type in the filer on ebay or something to replace? Anyone else find a good(cheap) way to support older, but still useful machines?
thanks
I have not used them, but zerowait.com is also an option.
The support agreement is expensive. Please share whatever solution you choose.
- Carl
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From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com on behalf of Stephen C Woods Sent: Thu 3/16/2006 3:00 PM To: Glenn Walker Cc: Tim Longo; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: filer disk replacement
Of course you could purchas you parts from UCE, these are genuine NETAPP parts that have entered the aftermarket. <scw> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 02:24:48PM -0500, Glenn Walker wrote:
NetApp disks are formatted in a special way. I _believe_ they are also labeled in a special way (ie, like HPaq does) so that the disks appear in a specific way when you perform normal SCSI Inquiries into the device type... that pretty much will prevent you from using common off-the-shelf components. I know of no way around this...
FWIW - the support agreement you get from NetApp for a year is typically MUCH cheaper than having to swap out parts if they break by paying NetApp the one-time support agreement and paying for the components themselves. It doesn't take many component swaps to overcome the cost of paying for the yearly support agreement...
Glenn
From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Thu 3/16/2006 1:28 PM To: toasters@mathworks.com Subject: filer disk replacement
I have an old filer that will be off support soon. Support through Netapp is way too much $$, but the system still works great... so I'd like to explore alternative options for replacing disks when they fail. Can I simply buy a fiber channel disk that matches the type in the filer on ebay or something to replace? Anyone else find a good(cheap) way to support older, but still useful machines?
thanks
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I beg to differ with Glenn -- considering the ready availability of cheap/used/3rd party/high quality/tested parts or complete heads for F7xx and F8xx generation systems, it is MUCH, MUCH cheaper to swap parts/purchase spares/procure 3rd party parts coverage as opposed to continuing with NetApp hardware support.
;-)