Has anyone found better documentation on 'exports' syntax than the crappy 'administrators' guide once-over? I am specifically interested in using a 'files' based netgroups map to clean up permissions, however the administrators guide suggests that usage is somewhat non-intuitave (as does my experimental results) yet stops short of providing useful information.
It does however reference one of the mysterious man pages, which I have never been able to get Netapp to give me. In fact they deny their existance.
Anyone got the skinny? thanks.
--matt@bikkle.interq.or.jp------------------------------------------- Matt Ghali MG406/GM023JP - System Administrator, interQ, Inc AS7506 "Sub-optimal is a state of mind." -Dave Rand, dlr@bungi.com
On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, just me. wrote:
Has anyone found better documentation on 'exports' syntax than the crappy 'administrators' guide once-over? I am specifically interested in using a 'files' based netgroups map to clean up permissions, however the administrators guide suggests that usage is somewhat non-intuitave (as does my experimental results) yet stops short of providing useful information.
Hmm. Well, that's what we do here. For instance on the main server I have in the exports file
/home -access=all,root=one.admin.host:another.admin.host
where /net/mainserver/etc/netgroup contains
boxen1 (boxen1,,) boxen2 (boxen2,,) boxen3 (boxen3,,) peecee1 (peecee1,,) ... peeceeN+1 (peeceeN+1,,) all boxen1 boxen2 boxen3 peecee1 ... peeceeN+1
Basically you just define each machine as a netgroup, then cat, err, catenate, all those little netgroups into one big one.
Obviously you could have 'allboxen' or 'allpeecee' or other subsets netgrouped too.
That's pretty much the Sun-standard netgroup usage since, oh, 198-mumble. Hal Stern's NFS/NIS book talks about netgroups in detail, but you don't need anything fancy for this.
I don't think you can use 'root=netgroup' which is kind of inconvenient, but then you probably don't want N+1 peecees to have root access anyway.
It does however reference one of the mysterious man pages, which I have never been able to get Netapp to give me. In fact they deny their existance.
C'mon, you've got to be trolling now.
On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Jim Davis wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, just me. wrote:
Has anyone found better documentation on 'exports' syntax than the crappy 'administrators' guide once-over?
Hmm. Well, that's what we do here. For instance on the main server I have in the exports file
[great example snipped. thanks]
That's pretty much the Sun-standard netgroup usage since, oh, 198-mumble. Hal Stern's NFS/NIS book talks about netgroups in detail, but you don't need anything fancy for this.
I don't think you can use 'root=netgroup' which is kind of inconvenient, but then you probably don't want N+1 peecees to have root access anyway.
Actually, thats exactly the inconsistency I am interested in ironing out.
It does however reference one of the mysterious man pages, which I have never been able to get Netapp to give me. In fact they deny their existance.
C'mon, you've got to be trolling now.
No, I am dead serious. Netapp Japan told me they didnt exist, and I have read the administrators guide from cover to cover (including specifically looking for man page references) without finding them. I will go over it again on Monday, but I honestly dont think they are mentioned.
Guy, bless his heart, pointed out that they are in etc/man on the filer's root volume. I can't believe I didn't spot that.
alohas! matto
--matt@bikkle.interq.or.jp------------------------------------------- Matt Ghali MG406/GM023JP - System Administrator, interQ, Inc AS7506 "Sub-optimal is a state of mind." -Dave Rand, dlr@bungi.com
Hi Matt,
I'm glad you were able to locate the etc/man pages. Just a point of reference, the NOW site (starting with DataONTAP 5.1) has the "man pages" on-line, as is the rest of the docs in HTML format.
http://now.netapp.com/knowledge/docs/ontap/51html/index.htm
I'm not sure if this will be done for every release or just the latest and greatest.
Regards, bobbl
Just a point of reference, the NOW site (starting with DataONTAP 5.1) has the "man pages" on-line, as is the rest of the docs in HTML format.
Note that I found the string "/etc/man" nowhere in the HTML for the 5.1SAG; either they don't mention it, or it's something like
Here are the subdirectories of /etc:
...
man manual pages
...
although I only found the strings "man page" or "manual page" (with any number of blanks >= 1 betweeen "man" and "page") in there in
1) references to specific man pages
and
2) the HTTP section, which says
*Note:* You can use the filer as an HTTP server *only* if you purchased the license for HTTP. Without the license, you can use an HTTP client (Web browser) only to display the filer's man pages and to use FilerView.
so if they say "oh, and we have UNIX-style man pages in the "man" subdirectory of "/etc", either
1) they don't use the phrase "man page" or "man pages"
or
2) it's split between two lines of the HTML file.
I've filed bug 10138 on the apparent lack of any indication in the SAG that a set of man pages can be found in "/etc/man" on the filer; if it's buried in there somewhere, presumably the tech pubs folk will point out where when they close the bug....