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Man page for na_dump missing
by Chris Thompson 14 Feb '01

14 Feb '01

Has anyone else noticed that the man page for na_dump(1) is missing from the ONTAP 6.0.1R1 tar file (both in etc/man/man1 and in etc/http/man/man1)? It was still there in 6.0R1. I hope this is is just an oversight and not a surreptitious attempt to remove the command! :-) na_restore(1) and na_dumpdates(5) are still there and refer one to na_dump(1). Chris Thompson University of Cambridge Computing Service, Email: cet1(a)ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, Phone: +44 1223 334715 United Kingdom.

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Re: File deletion problem
by Rune Bakken 13 Feb '01

13 Feb '01

neil lehrer <nlehrer(a)ibb.gov> writes: > shouldn't rc_toggle_basic commands be documented on NOW? it is restricted > access and i don't remember discussing "lock_dump -f" in my netapp classes. It was discussed and used in the Ontap Advanced class, atleast the docs included the rc_toggle_basic commands >>>>>>>>>>.rune -- Rune Bakken "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. System Administrator When they wake up in the morning, that's as Nextra, good as they're going to feel all day." - Telenor Company - Frank Sinatra

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Re: File deletion problem
by neil lehrer 13 Feb '01

13 Feb '01

shouldn't rc_toggle_basic commands be documented on NOW? it is restricted access and i don't remember discussing "lock_dump -f" in my netapp classes. "Clawson, Simon" wrote: > > Wow - easy as that.. > > Thanks Eyal, that did the trick and we sorted the issue. > > I can see why these commands are slightly mystical though. It would be all > to easy to pick up the manual and start hammering away in rc_toggle_basic, > and you can really play around with things in there. The few useful snipets > I have learned are just that - useful in one situation, but quite dangerous > in another. > > Thanks again Eyal > > Simon > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Traitel, Eyal [mailto:eyal@netapp.com] > > Sent: 13 February 2001 15:36 > > To: 'Chris Thompson'; Traitel, Eyal > > Cc: nlehrer(a)ibb.gov; simon_clawson > > Subject: RE: File deletion problem > > > > > > I agree. > > We do not publish all commands, but my answer was not kind of > > RTFM, but more > > a specific answer to the question... > > > > I hope it helps... > > > > You can always open support cases, so don't count on toasters > > answers if > > this is a must-be-answered issues. > > > > > > Eyal. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Eyal Traitel - Filer Escalation Engineer > > CNA, MCSE, CSA, NACA > > > > Network Appliance BV > > Holland Office Center > > Kruisweg 799b > > 2132 NG, Hoofddorp > > The Netherlands > > Office: +31 23 567 9685 > > Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 > > Email: eyal(a)netapp.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Thompson [mailto:cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:14 PM > > To: eyal(a)netapp.com > > Cc: nlehrer(a)ibb.gov; simon_clawson(a)mentorg.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com > > Subject: Re: File deletion problem > > > > > > Eyal Traitel <eyal(a)netapp.com> writes: > > > > > > > From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] > > [...] > > > > what is lock_dump -f? > > > > > > From its man page: > > > > > > NAME > > > lock_dump - print lock records organized by client or by > > host (ADVANCED) > > > > > > SYNOPSIS > > > lock_dump [ -f | -h ] > > > > > > DESCRIPTION > > > lock_dump prints NLM lock records organized either by file, > > or by host. > > > > > > OPTIONS > > > -f Prints lock records organized by file. > > > -h Prints lock records organized by host. > > > > This might be read as a sotto voce form of "RTFM"... But, of > > course, few > > people outside NetApp will have seen these man pages for the commands > > hidden behind rc_toggle_basic. They aren't distributed with > > ONTAP, and > > they aren't visible at NOW. > > > > Chris Thompson University of Cambridge > > Computing Service, > > Email: cet1(a)ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, > > Phone: +44 1223 334715 United Kingdom. > > -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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RE: File deletion problem
by Traitel, Eyal 13 Feb '01

13 Feb '01

>From its man page: NAME lock_dump - print lock records organized by client or by host (ADVANCED) SYNOPSIS lock_dump [ -f | -h ] DESCRIPTION lock_dump prints NLM lock records organized either by file, or by host. OPTIONS -f Prints lock records organized by file. -h Prints lock records organized by host. Eyal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eyal Traitel - Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, NACA Network Appliance BV Holland Office Center Kruisweg 799b 2132 NG, Hoofddorp The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 Email: eyal(a)netapp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:02 AM To: Traitel, Eyal Cc: 'Clawson, Simon'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: File deletion problem what is lock_dump -f? "Traitel, Eyal" wrote: > > Short suggestions might be: > > 1. use lock_dump -f > 2. Check if file has CIFS ACL ?!? > > Eyal. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eyal Traitel - Filer Escalation Engineer > CNA, MCSE, CSA, NACA > > Network Appliance BV > Holland Office Center > Kruisweg 799b > 2132 NG, Hoofddorp > The Netherlands > Office: +31 23 567 9685 > Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 > Email: eyal(a)netapp.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:12 AM > To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: File deletion problem > > Hi! > > I have a file in a directory on the NetApps. I would like to delete it, but > get permission deined every time I attempt to. The file is visible on UNIX, > can be opened and modified. I have CHMOD'd it to 777, CHOWN'd it to root and > still cannot remove it. The directory is writable, as I can create and > delete files within it. Is there a way to check who is accesing a file on > the NetApps? Is it possible that there is a lock on this file, that I can > munually break? > > Simon > > Simon Clawson > HDS Team Systems Administrator > Mentor Graphics Uk > Rivergate > London Road > Newbury > Berkshire > RG14 2QB > <<Clawson, Simon.vcf>> --

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RE: File deletion problem
by Traitel, Eyal 13 Feb '01

13 Feb '01

Short suggestions might be: 1. use lock_dump -f 2. Check if file has CIFS ACL ?!? Eyal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eyal Traitel - Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, NACA Network Appliance BV Holland Office Center Kruisweg 799b 2132 NG, Hoofddorp The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 Email: eyal(a)netapp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:12 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: File deletion problem Hi! I have a file in a directory on the NetApps. I would like to delete it, but get permission deined every time I attempt to. The file is visible on UNIX, can be opened and modified. I have CHMOD'd it to 777, CHOWN'd it to root and still cannot remove it. The directory is writable, as I can create and delete files within it. Is there a way to check who is accesing a file on the NetApps? Is it possible that there is a lock on this file, that I can munually break? Simon Simon Clawson HDS Team Systems Administrator Mentor Graphics Uk Rivergate London Road Newbury Berkshire RG14 2QB <<Clawson, Simon.vcf>>

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by Max Chan 13 Feb '01

13 Feb '01

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RE: Recovered Error
by Maximus Moua 12 Feb '01

12 Feb '01

Sorry I left two pieces of information out. The error existed in Ontap 5.3.4r2 and still occurs after upgrading to Ontap 5.3.6r2. I regret not replacing the LRC the last down when I replaced the FCAL components. Max. -----Original Message----- From: Knight, Jason [mailto:Jason.Knight@citadelgroup.com] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 6:29 AM To: 'Levent Kaptanoglu'; Knight, Jason Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Recovered Error Levent, It is normal (or at least not unusual) to see disk errors during a RAID SCRUB, RAID SCRUB is looking for bad media. If you start seeing these errors occur several times a day and on the same disk when the system is not performing a RAID SCRUB then you might consider failing the disk at a convenient time and RMA'ing it if you have enough spares, but you should talk with NetApp support first. Jason Knight -----Original Message----- From: Levent Kaptanoglu [mailto:lkaptan@pro-link.net] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:35 AM To: Knight, Jason Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Recovered Error I have the same error Could you find any solution ? ===== MESSAGES ===== Sun Feb 11 00:00:04 EET [asup_main]: System Notification mail sent Sun Feb 11 01:00:00 EET [statd]: 1:00am up 17 days, 16:39 1421477327 NFS ops, 6827 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 01:00:00 EET [raid_scrub_admin]: Beginning disk scrubbing... Sun Feb 11 01:23:28 EET [CIFSAuthen]: CIFS - machine password changed on DC \\MYNETDC1 Sun Feb 11 02:00:00 EET [statd]: 2:00am up 17 days, 17:39 1423199759 NFS ops, 6829 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 03:00:00 EET [statd]: 3:00am up 17 days, 18:39 1424335238 NFS ops, 6829 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 03:05:12 EET [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.2(0xfffffc0000caa4c8): op 0x28:016cf560:0080 sector 23917993 recovered error - (1 17, 1) Sun Feb 11 04:00:00 EET [statd]: 4:00am up 17 days, 19:39 1424889672 NFS ops, 6829 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 05:00:00 EET [statd]: 5:00am up 17 days, 20:38 1425181655 NFS ops, 6829 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 05:45:45 EET [consumer]: Scrub found 0 parity inconsistencies Sun Feb 11 05:45:45 EET [consumer]: Scrub found 0 media errors Sun Feb 11 05:45:45 EET [consumer]: Disk scrubbing finished... -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Knight, Jason Sent: 10 Þubat 2001 Cumartesi 18:27 To: 'Eff Norwood'; Maximus Moua; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Recovered Error Have you replaced the LRC? An LRC going bad can show up as disk errors. Jason Knight -----Original Message----- From: Eff Norwood [mailto:eff@cynaptic.com] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 8:15 PM To: Maximus Moua; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Recovered Error What release of ONTAP are you running? Effrem Norwood ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maximus Moua" <maximus(a)saba.com> To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: Recovered Error > Hi All, > > I recently acquired a filer F720 with 36 G shelf which exibited a sector > error in the Message log. I have tried swapping drives, replacing FCAL > controller, cable and terminator. The problem occurs on all the data > drives, except the spare, during heavy disk activity such as disk scrubbing > but less frequently and randomly even when disk activity should be minimal. > NetApp tells me this is a soft error and does not warrant concern but I > wonder if any of you have experience this and can assure me to leave this > one alone. > > Thanks, > > -Max > > Wed Feb 7 19:26:45 PST [raid_disk_admin]: Spare disk 1.4 (S/N > 680A845B1K) has been added to the system. > Wed Feb 7 19:33:46 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cbbcb8): op > 0x28:00529380:0080 sector 5411723 recovered error - (1 17, 3) > Wed Feb 7 19:41:51 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cbb978): op > 0x28:00a79900:0080 sector 10983747 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 20:00:00 PST [statd]: 8:00pm up 12 days, 29 mins, 3 NFS ops, > 48398305 CIFS ops, 810 HTTP ops > Wed Feb 7 20:16:35 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.0(0xfffffc0000cade18): op > 0x28:020c22c0:0080 sector 34349865 recovered error - (1 17, 3) > Wed Feb 7 20:17:56 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.5(0xfffffc0000cc1e38): op > 0x28:021a93c0:0080 sector 35296301 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 20:18:52 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cc7ad8): op > 0x28:02249240:0080 sector 35951273 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 20:20:51 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.5(0xfffffc0000cd6cf8): op > 0x28:0239ed40:0080 sector 37350752 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 20:25:13 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.0(0xfffffc0000ca6298): op > 0x28:02692bc0:0080 sector 40447008 recovered error - (1 16, 0) > Wed Feb 7 20:44:04 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cb8718): op > 0x28:033932c0:0080 sector 54080224 recovered error - (1 17, 7) > Wed Feb 7 20:49:34 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cb3df8): op > 0x28:0378e938:0080 sector 58255736 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 21:00:00 PST [statd]: 9:00pm up 12 days, 1:29 3 NFS ops, > 48418877 CIFS ops, 810 HTTP ops > Wed Feb 7 21:03:25 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000ca99d8): op > 0x28:041f4af0:0080 sector 69159705 recovered error - (1 17, 3) > Wed Feb 7 21:04:13 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000ca5c18): op > 0x28:04289df0:0080 sector 69770779 recovered error - (1 17, 7) > Wed Feb 7 21:32:53 PST [consumer]: Reconstruction of data disk in volume > vol0, RAID group 0, complete. >

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Crashing netcache and retrieval of core-file
by Rune Bakken 12 Feb '01

12 Feb '01

I seem to be unable to retrieve the core-file that NetApp support wants me to send, as my (borrowed) netcache C720 keeps booting when starting the netcache software. I have no problem booting without rc, but then again I have no solution to how to get the core file. I am running NetCache 5.0D14 Anyone with a solution to how to get the core-file? FYI: This is the PANIC message I receive, just in case someone else has seen this. PANIC: MM fault MMCSR=1, type=0, VA=0x61fcf7fff, PC=0xfffffc00005783a0, RA=0xfffffc0000700d90 in process sthread_loop on release NetApp Release 5.0D14 on Mon Feb 12 11:11:28 2001 >>>>>>>>>>>>.rune -- Rune Bakken "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. System Administrator When they wake up in the morning, that's as Nextra, good as they're going to feel all day." - Telenor Company - Frank Sinatra

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ntfs qtrees
by neil lehrer 12 Feb '01

12 Feb '01

hi, we are migrating our files from sun/NFS to filer/cifs. i have clustered f760's running ontap 5.36r2. for testing the data is copied over using cpio and the unix perms are maintained. i found the note shown below on page 421 of the Ontap SAG. i find it confusing and a little contradictory -- every windows user is given full access, but if you don't set ntfs file sec then unix perms are enforced? "Note When you create an NTFS qtree or change a qtree to NTFS, by default, every Windows user is given full access. You must change the permissions if you want to restrict access to the qtree for some users. If you do not set NTFS file security on a file, UNIX permissions are enforced." could someone please clear this up? what if the unix perms say no?? is this just written poorly? thanks. -- regards

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I NEVER ASKED FOR BEEING ON THIS MAILING LIST
by Cour, Didier 12 Feb '01

12 Feb '01

remove me immediatly from that list d-cour(a)ti.com -----Original Message----- From: Knight, Jason [mailto:Jason.Knight@citadelgroup.com] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 3:29 PM To: 'Levent Kaptanoglu'; Knight, Jason Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Recovered Error Levent, It is normal (or at least not unusual) to see disk errors during a RAID SCRUB, RAID SCRUB is looking for bad media. If you start seeing these errors occur several times a day and on the same disk when the system is not performing a RAID SCRUB then you might consider failing the disk at a convenient time and RMA'ing it if you have enough spares, but you should talk with NetApp support first. Jason Knight -----Original Message----- From: Levent Kaptanoglu [mailto:lkaptan@pro-link.net] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:35 AM To: Knight, Jason Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Recovered Error I have the same error Could you find any solution ? ===== MESSAGES ===== Sun Feb 11 00:00:04 EET [asup_main]: System Notification mail sent Sun Feb 11 01:00:00 EET [statd]: 1:00am up 17 days, 16:39 1421477327 NFS ops, 6827 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 01:00:00 EET [raid_scrub_admin]: Beginning disk scrubbing... Sun Feb 11 01:23:28 EET [CIFSAuthen]: CIFS - machine password changed on DC \\MYNETDC1 Sun Feb 11 02:00:00 EET [statd]: 2:00am up 17 days, 17:39 1423199759 NFS ops, 6829 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 03:00:00 EET [statd]: 3:00am up 17 days, 18:39 1424335238 NFS ops, 6829 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 03:05:12 EET [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.2(0xfffffc0000caa4c8): op 0x28:016cf560:0080 sector 23917993 recovered error - (1 17, 1) Sun Feb 11 04:00:00 EET [statd]: 4:00am up 17 days, 19:39 1424889672 NFS ops, 6829 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 05:00:00 EET [statd]: 5:00am up 17 days, 20:38 1425181655 NFS ops, 6829 CIFS ops, 133 HTTP ops Sun Feb 11 05:45:45 EET [consumer]: Scrub found 0 parity inconsistencies Sun Feb 11 05:45:45 EET [consumer]: Scrub found 0 media errors Sun Feb 11 05:45:45 EET [consumer]: Disk scrubbing finished... -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Knight, Jason Sent: 10 Þubat 2001 Cumartesi 18:27 To: 'Eff Norwood'; Maximus Moua; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Recovered Error Have you replaced the LRC? An LRC going bad can show up as disk errors. Jason Knight -----Original Message----- From: Eff Norwood [mailto:eff@cynaptic.com] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 8:15 PM To: Maximus Moua; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Recovered Error What release of ONTAP are you running? Effrem Norwood ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maximus Moua" <maximus(a)saba.com> To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: Recovered Error > Hi All, > > I recently acquired a filer F720 with 36 G shelf which exibited a sector > error in the Message log. I have tried swapping drives, replacing FCAL > controller, cable and terminator. The problem occurs on all the data > drives, except the spare, during heavy disk activity such as disk scrubbing > but less frequently and randomly even when disk activity should be minimal. > NetApp tells me this is a soft error and does not warrant concern but I > wonder if any of you have experience this and can assure me to leave this > one alone. > > Thanks, > > -Max > > Wed Feb 7 19:26:45 PST [raid_disk_admin]: Spare disk 1.4 (S/N > 680A845B1K) has been added to the system. > Wed Feb 7 19:33:46 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cbbcb8): op > 0x28:00529380:0080 sector 5411723 recovered error - (1 17, 3) > Wed Feb 7 19:41:51 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cbb978): op > 0x28:00a79900:0080 sector 10983747 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 20:00:00 PST [statd]: 8:00pm up 12 days, 29 mins, 3 NFS ops, > 48398305 CIFS ops, 810 HTTP ops > Wed Feb 7 20:16:35 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.0(0xfffffc0000cade18): op > 0x28:020c22c0:0080 sector 34349865 recovered error - (1 17, 3) > Wed Feb 7 20:17:56 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.5(0xfffffc0000cc1e38): op > 0x28:021a93c0:0080 sector 35296301 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 20:18:52 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cc7ad8): op > 0x28:02249240:0080 sector 35951273 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 20:20:51 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.5(0xfffffc0000cd6cf8): op > 0x28:0239ed40:0080 sector 37350752 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 20:25:13 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.0(0xfffffc0000ca6298): op > 0x28:02692bc0:0080 sector 40447008 recovered error - (1 16, 0) > Wed Feb 7 20:44:04 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cb8718): op > 0x28:033932c0:0080 sector 54080224 recovered error - (1 17, 7) > Wed Feb 7 20:49:34 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000cb3df8): op > 0x28:0378e938:0080 sector 58255736 recovered error - (1 17, 1) > Wed Feb 7 21:00:00 PST [statd]: 9:00pm up 12 days, 1:29 3 NFS ops, > 48418877 CIFS ops, 810 HTTP ops > Wed Feb 7 21:03:25 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000ca99d8): op > 0x28:041f4af0:0080 sector 69159705 recovered error - (1 17, 3) > Wed Feb 7 21:04:13 PST [isp2100_main]: Disk 1.1(0xfffffc0000ca5c18): op > 0x28:04289df0:0080 sector 69770779 recovered error - (1 17, 7) > Wed Feb 7 21:32:53 PST [consumer]: Reconstruction of data disk in volume > vol0, RAID group 0, complete. >

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