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RE: Veritas Netbackup Database
by Jon Walton 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

I guess what I am getting at is make sure you get it in writing. I agree with your take on NFS file locking, but I have been in situations where support engineer A promised something that support engineer B would not support. If you can point to a Veritas document that states they support the database over NFS, your are in favorable situation. Regards, Jon -----Original Message----- From: Manny Kaiser [mailto:mkaiser@mmcnet.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:28 AM To: Jon Walton Cc: toasters@mathworks. com Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup Database I was under the distinct impression that file locking in NFS in today's operating systems is considerably more reliable then it was years ago. I have never encountered a problem with any application running on an NFS mounted file system. I am under the impression that the quote below is something that was copied out of earlier versions of the manual and never reviewed again. When using NFS you might suffer a performance penalty if your systems are not correctly configured. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Jon Walton Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:31 PM To: Jeff Kennedy Cc: toasters@mathworks. com Subject: RE: Veritas Netbackup Database Now that I look, the 3.4 DataCenter install guide states: "Because the product uses file locking, VERITAS recommends that you not install NetBackup in an NFS mounted directory. File locking in NFS mounted files systems can be unreliable" I mentally took this to mean "not supported". Sorry if my previous email was misleading. Regards, Jon -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kennedy [mailto:jlkennedy@amcc.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:18 AM To: Jon Walton Cc: toasters@mathworks. com Subject: Re: Veritas Netbackup Database OK, I did some checking again. Veritas does officially support putting /usr/openv onto an NFS file system. However, they say that performance does suffer due to the large write streams. So, if performance is not an issue then it is a very nice solution. Also, db backups do not yet support disk storage unit backups. Supposedly in 4.5 they will for just this reason. ~JK Jon Walton wrote: > > I believe they do not support this due the fact that operations on the > database files involve file locking. That is what is remember reading > in the Unix Admin Guide. > > Regards, > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Kennedy [mailto:jlkennedy@amcc.com] > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:39 AM > To: Manny Kaiser > Cc: toasters@mathworks. com > Subject: Re: Veritas Netbackup Database > > Got word from Vertias that putting the /usr/openv filesystem itself on > NFS was NOT supported. However, you could backup the database to a NFS > disk without issue.... > > ~JK > > > Manny Kaiser wrote: > > > > Has anyone placed the Veritas Netbackup database on an NFS mounted > > file system? > > More specifically on a netapp? > > I was just told by Veritas that they do not recommend doing this > > because NFS is unreliable. > > Any feedback would be helpful. > > > > > > -- > ===================== > Jeff Kennedy > Unix Administrator > AMCC > jlkennedy(a)amcc.com -- ===================== Jeff Kennedy Unix Administrator AMCC jlkennedy(a)amcc.com

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Re: file access on a particular file on cifs side seems to hang Windo wsExplorer
by Don.Hickey＠alcatel.com 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

I had the same problem. It turned out to be a bug in ontap. I noticed that disabling the virus scanner on my pc fixed it. I reported the problem to netapp and its fixed in 6.1.1R2 .... my suggestion is to upgrade. Don kim(a)dotcast.com Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com 2001-10-26 06:30 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com cc: Subject: file access on a particular file on cifs side seems to hang Windo ws Explorer Hi, I have this weird issue with file access to a particular file on our filer. When you click on the file it hangs the Windows Explorer for a good few minutes before it returns control. If I attempt to copy the MS Word file (1.7mb) it takes an extremely long time (up to 5 minutes). Other files of the same size or larger copy fine from Filer to Windows 2000 Server or Professional. From NFS the same file copies fine. If I look at the same file from the snapshot directories in Windows, file access time is fine. Here's what we have: F760 with CIFS and NFS licenses. NetApp Release 6.0.1R3 oplocks globally disabled per netapp support mixed qtrees in Windows 2000 domain and NIS environment Windows 2000 Server/Professional (SP2) as clients Below is a cifs session of the host that has this file open. filer> cifs sessions HOST users shares/files open HOST (DOMAIN\username - username) public R&W-denyN - \Share\Spring_2001_Demonstration\Demonstration - HW SW Interface Description.doc I'm not sure what the "denyN" in "R&W-denyN" means. I'm curious if anyone's run across this before. I have 2 other NetApps in similar environments and haven't seen this condition on either yet. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Kim P. Lam kim(a)dotcast.com

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wafl.maxdirsize max
by Roman.Ustoyev＠chase.com 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

What is the maximum value for wafl.maxdirsize option? The default is 10M but we might need to increase it to 40M.

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RE: Used gear?
by Ziller, Frank 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

They have to "re-certify" the equipment before they support it...can be costly. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Steel. (lists) [mailto:mrlist@noid.org] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 4:25 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Used gear? Does Netapp have any problems providing hardware support for used equipment? I'm looking at adding some additional space to our F840's and I'd like to shop the used market if the price break is worth it and the support is there from Netapp. Also, does anyone have a vendor they'd recommend for used Netapp gear? Thanks! - Nick

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file access on a particular file on cifs side seems to hang Windo ws Explorer
by kim＠dotcast.com 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Hi, I have this weird issue with file access to a particular file on our filer. When you click on the file it hangs the Windows Explorer for a good few minutes before it returns control. If I attempt to copy the MS Word file (1.7mb) it takes an extremely long time (up to 5 minutes). Other files of the same size or larger copy fine from Filer to Windows 2000 Server or Professional. From NFS the same file copies fine. If I look at the same file from the snapshot directories in Windows, file access time is fine. Here's what we have: F760 with CIFS and NFS licenses. NetApp Release 6.0.1R3 oplocks globally disabled per netapp support mixed qtrees in Windows 2000 domain and NIS environment Windows 2000 Server/Professional (SP2) as clients Below is a cifs session of the host that has this file open. filer> cifs sessions HOST users shares/files open HOST (DOMAIN\username - username) public R&W-denyN - \Share\Spring_2001_Demonstration\Demonstration - HW SW Interface Description.doc I'm not sure what the "denyN" in "R&W-denyN" means. I'm curious if anyone's run across this before. I have 2 other NetApps in similar environments and haven't seen this condition on either yet. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Kim P. Lam kim(a)dotcast.com

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RE: NetApp and Samba anyone ?
by Taylor, Bryant 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Ya that will work without a hitch.... atleast I'm using it that way with an 840 and I haven't see any problems... More secure if you ask me.... -B -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bonnet [mailto:bonnetf@bart.esiee.fr] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:05 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NetApp and Samba anyone ? Hi We actually use a F85 filer as NFS server only but we are palnnig to use it also as a CIFS server for our PCs , I wonder if I could safely use a Samba server as a domain controller in combination with the filer as a user data server ? Any infos/experiences/links welcome Thanks a lot. -- Frank Bonnet

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NetApp and Samba anyone ?
by Frank Bonnet 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Hi We actually use a F85 filer as NFS server only but we are palnnig to use it also as a CIFS server for our PCs , I wonder if I could safely use a Samba server as a domain controller in combination with the filer as a user data server ? Any infos/experiences/links welcome Thanks a lot. -- Frank Bonnet

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Very high CIFS ops
by Uros Lampret 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Hi! Can anybody explain this? I have very high number of CIFS ops/sec but very low trafic. This client uses 10Mbit Ethernet interface. CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 33% 0 1266 0 149 175 48 0 0 0 5 32% 0 1264 0 148 152 0 0 0 0 5 32% 0 1267 0 148 152 0 0 0 0 5 32% 0 1268 0 149 152 0 0 0 0 5 32% 0 1263 0 148 154 0 0 0 0 5 33% 0 1264 0 148 154 0 0 0 0 5 33% 0 1269 0 149 155 0 0 0 0 5 31% 0 1217 0 143 149 0 0 0 0 5 30% 0 1135 0 133 142 0 0 0 0 5 32% 0 1152 0 135 151 84 280 0 0 5 31% 0 1196 0 140 151 0 0 0 0 5 32% 0 1230 0 144 149 0 0 0 0 5 32% 0 1253 0 147 151 0 0 0 0 5 32% 0 1266 0 148 152 0 0 0 0 5 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 33% 0 1267 0 149 154 0 0 0 0 5 33% 0 1259 0 182 154 0 0 0 0 5 33% 0 1265 0 148 152 0 0 0 0 5 33% 0 1271 0 149 153 0 0 0 0 5 33% 0 1271 0 149 153 0 0 0 0 5 33% 0 1274 0 166 155 0 0 0 0 5 35% 0 1238 0 145 151 100 380 0 0 5 33% 0 1270 0 149 153 0 0 0 0 5 33% 0 1266 0 151 152 0 0 0 0 5 Regards, Uros

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Used gear?
by Nick Steel. (lists) 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Does Netapp have any problems providing hardware support for used equipment? I'm looking at adding some additional space to our F840's and I'd like to shop the used market if the price break is worth it and the support is there from Netapp. Also, does anyone have a vendor they'd recommend for used Netapp gear? Thanks! - Nick

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Virus Alert
by postmaster＠mathworks.com 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

Have detected a virus (TROJ_SIRCAM.A) in your mail traffic on 10/27/2001 01:13:01 with an action quarantined.

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