Hello,
We just became the proud owners of an L80. Its a bit of a big beast, and has
baffled me a bit! I was wondering if anyone out there has one of these
attached directly to the netapp, and also attached to a backup server such
as an E250? During the selection process the company we engaged told me that
each drive could be connected directly to a machine via SCSI. Looking at the
back of the library, I think this is do-able, as each drive has SCSI
connections, but I am not sure if these are …
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library itself, then daisy chained together, or if the drive can be attached
to the filer... I am waiting on a colleague to chase the supplier, but
thought I put out request to you guys too...
Anyone?
Thanks
Simon
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Thanks for your responses. Here are some answers to the questions that were
presented.
> Have you set any values in the "Fibre Channel to SCSI mapping"/ "Mapping
Table#"?
We have a custom map that we're using to map the individual tape drives to
Crossroad LUNs.
> Do the values change after reboot?
No.
> What about "Display Attached SCSI Devices", does this change between
reboots?
No. The attached SCSI devices are always the same.
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The "…
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auto. We are using a custom map to make sure that each tape drive always
has the same LUN. We are not using the "index" map since that one is
currently being used for our Windows media agent. However, there doesn't
appear to be a difference between custom maps and the "index" map other than
the name of the "index" map cannot be changed. If I am mistaken, please let
me know.
Also, I guess I need to qualify my details a bit more. The LUNs presented
by the Crossroads are fixed in that they are always refer to the same drive
on the P7000. The problem is that the LUNs get assigned to different
devices on the filer. For example, LUN 2 will be assigned to the rst1l,
nrst1l, ..., urst1a devices after one of the Crossroads reboots. After
another Crossroads reboot, LUN 3 will be assigned to those same devices on
the filer. We need to preserve a consistent device mapping on the filer.
Reassigning storage aliases seems to be the best workaround we've found so
far. My quick hack script to do this is below (the x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx
represents the WWN of the Crossroads). We're still looking for a better
long term approach. Either the Crossroads needs to present the LUNs in the
same order every time, or the Netapp filer needs to have a way to specify a
persistent device-to-LUN mapping for FCAL attached devices.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/sh
FILER=$1
if [ -z "$FILER" ]; then
echo "usage: resetaliases <filername>"
exit 1
fi
/bin/rsh $FILER storage unalias -a
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias mc0 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias st0 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]L1
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias st1 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]L2
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias st2 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]L3
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias st3 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]L4
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias st4 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]L5
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias st5 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]L6
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias st6 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]L7
/bin/rsh $FILER storage alias st7 WWN[x:xxx:xxxxxx:xxxxxx]L8
exit 0
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Paul,
It sounds like you are running the Crossroads router in "Fibre
Channel to SCSI Mapping Mode" of auto. Change the mode to "Indexed" and this
should fix your problem. The mapping mode determines how the targets behind
the router (i.e. tape that are attached to the SCSI side of the router) are
seen by Fibre Channel hosts on the network. Specifically, the various
addressing modes determine how Fibre Channel LUNs are mapped to the SCSI
peripherals on the router, and how that mapping can …
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or reconfigure the router.
You normally want to use indexed mode to ensure that particular target/luns
on the SCSI side of the router are persistently presented as the same LUNs
on the Fibre Channel side of the router, regardless of whether devices have
been removed on the SCSI side or were turned off when the router booted.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Caron [mailto:caron@sig.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:02 AM
To: toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Crossroads Problems
We are currently trying to implement a SAN backup solution involving
several F840 (ONTAP 6.2R2, latest FW) and R100 (ONTAP 6.2.1, latest FW)
filers, a Brocade Silkwork 3800 switch (kernel 5.3.1, fabric OS 3.0), a
Crossroads 10000, an ATL P7000 tape drive library with 8 SDLT drives, and
Commvault Galaxy software (4.1.0, Build 26). We have tried firmware
versions 4.03.16, 4.03.17, and 4.19 on the Crossroads 10000.
The problem we are experiencing is that the devices on our filers which
represent the SAN attached tape drives (shown by sysconfig -t) get randomly
recreated every time the Crossroads reboots. Since we can't guarantee
which devices will get assigned to which tape drive LUN, they often do not
match those configured in the Commvault Galaxy backup software. The
resulting mismatch causes many backup problems. It appears as though the
Crossroads is not presenting the tape drives available on the ATL P7000 in
the same order every time it reboots.
We have read through the information available at
http://www.netapp.com/osn/info/config.html#fcsan. This site shows support
for the Brocade 3800. Although they do not call out support for the
Crossroads 10000 specifically, they do show a wide range of options using
various SCSI-FIBER bridges with a variety of libraries. The StorageTek
library they show uses a Crossroads 42xx series switch.
Has anyone else run into this situation? Is there any way of compensating
for this on the Netapp filers? I realize that it would be better if the
Crossroads would present the tape drive LUNs in the same order every time,
but that doesn't appear to be configurable. It would help if we could
permanently assign the devices to the tape drive LUNs on the filers.
BTW, we have received suggestions regarding using the Netapp "storage
alias" and "storage unalias" commands. However, since the Galaxy backup
software relies on the actual device names (i.e. rst0l, nrst0l, urst0l,
etc.) this hasn't helped us so far.
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We are currently trying to implement a SAN backup solution involving
several F840 (ONTAP 6.2R2, latest FW) and R100 (ONTAP 6.2.1, latest FW)
filers, a Brocade Silkwork 3800 switch (kernel 5.3.1, fabric OS 3.0), a
Crossroads 10000, an ATL P7000 tape drive library with 8 SDLT drives, and
Commvault Galaxy software (4.1.0, Build 26). We have tried firmware
versions 4.03.16, 4.03.17, and 4.19 on the Crossroads 10000.
The problem we are experiencing is that the devices on our filers which
…
[View More]represent the SAN attached tape drives (shown by sysconfig -t) get randomly
recreated every time the Crossroads reboots. Since we can't guarantee
which devices will get assigned to which tape drive LUN, they often do not
match those configured in the Commvault Galaxy backup software. The
resulting mismatch causes many backup problems. It appears as though the
Crossroads is not presenting the tape drives available on the ATL P7000 in
the same order every time it reboots.
We have read through the information available at
http://www.netapp.com/osn/info/config.html#fcsan. This site shows support
for the Brocade 3800. Although they do not call out support for the
Crossroads 10000 specifically, they do show a wide range of options using
various SCSI-FIBER bridges with a variety of libraries. The StorageTek
library they show uses a Crossroads 42xx series switch.
Has anyone else run into this situation? Is there any way of compensating
for this on the Netapp filers? I realize that it would be better if the
Crossroads would present the tape drive LUNs in the same order every time,
but that doesn't appear to be configurable. It would help if we could
permanently assign the devices to the tape drive LUNs on the filers.
BTW, we have received suggestions regarding using the Netapp "storage
alias" and "storage unalias" commands. However, since the Galaxy backup
software relies on the actual device names (i.e. rst0l, nrst0l, urst0l,
etc.) this hasn't helped us so far.
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never happened before, but 3 times today (upgraded 6.1.2R1 to 6.2.1R2
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You said you had more than one volume ?.
Were the disks all added at the same time ?. That is, you have not added a
disk to an existing volume?. Is the activity read or write activity or a
mix ?.
Can you post up a sysstat output ?.
Try using 'statit' which will indicate if a specific disk is being hammered.
If this is the case then it would mean that a disk was added to the volume
group after vol creation and normal stripping is not in effect.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Horwath […
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Sent: Friday, 1 November 2002 10:11
To: Mike Ball
Cc: 'Pawel Rogocz'; toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Re: My F820 is slow ....
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 02:22:25PM -0600, Mike Ball wrote:
> Pawel,
> Are your file systems becoming full (type "df" from netapp")?
> Mike
Mine are at 50% in terms of disk space used.
1 volume, 12 disks, 18GB, F760, gige to client systems.
I show 91-94% cache hit rate, but disk utilization is 98-100% during
the business day.
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Hey Clarence,
Filer MRTG is great, we run it now even with Datafabric Manager running as
well. It isn't very good for performance analysis but great for monitoring
filesystem usage and particularly snapshots if you are doing any
snapmirroring.
Thanks,
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: Clarence Ngoh [mailto:cngoh@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:09 AM
To: Pawel Rogocz; toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Re: My F820 is slow ....
Pawel
> 3. Can disk util be monitored …
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> in the MIB provided on NOW.
I do not use this tool on our filers, but you can install MRTG on a box.
The instructions can be found at
http://now.netapp.com/NOW/download/tools/filer-mrtg/. It "provides a
current and historical view (the last day, week, month, and year) of
statistics for network traffic, CPU load, disk usage, and NFS and CIFS
operations."
-- Clarence.
> thanks,
>
>
> Pawel
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How many disk shelves have you got?
How many FCAL's you got?
Running any database devices on the filer?
What size raid groups have you got? Especially for databases.
Running any gigabit interfaces on Sun boxes?
Was the system running fast for a long period then suddenly performance
dropped or has it been gradual degradation?
Does a netdiag -v report any unusual NFS or application errors?
I have many more questions as I am going through something similar right
now. Hopefully we can help each …
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Thanks,
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Stichbury [mailto:Neil.Stichbury@gen-i.co.nz]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:57 AM
Cc: 'Pawel Rogocz'; toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: RE: My F820 is slow ....
You said you had more than one volume ?.
Were the disks all added at the same time ?. That is, you have not added a
disk to an existing volume?. Is the activity read or write activity or a
mix ?.
Can you post up a sysstat output ?.
Try using 'statit' which will indicate if a specific disk is being hammered.
If this is the case then it would mean that a disk was added to the volume
group after vol creation and normal stripping is not in effect.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Horwath [mailto:drechsau@visi.com]
Sent: Friday, 1 November 2002 10:11
To: Mike Ball
Cc: 'Pawel Rogocz'; toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Re: My F820 is slow ....
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 02:22:25PM -0600, Mike Ball wrote:
> Pawel,
> Are your file systems becoming full (type "df" from netapp")?
> Mike
Mine are at 50% in terms of disk space used.
1 volume, 12 disks, 18GB, F760, gige to client systems.
I show 91-94% cache hit rate, but disk utilization is 98-100% during
the business day.
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Hi Pawel,
We have an F880 (6.2.1) with about 10-20 Sun boxes connected to ours. We
are experiencing the same type of slowdown and sysstat readouts. Our
database volumes are running particularly slow. I am working with NetApp now
to resolve this. Try the following set of commands;
Go into advanced mode on the filer (telnet in)
Priv set advanced
*you will see a star showing advanced mode
filer*> statit -b
leave for a few minutes
filer*>statit -enc
an nfsstat -l shows a detailed usage of …
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This will give a detailed summary
Hope it helps,
Aaron
-----Original Message-----
From: Pawel Rogocz [mailto:pawel@rogocz.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:24 AM
To: toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: My F820 is slow ....
I run 6.2.1 on F820 and I have bunch of Sun boxes ( around 60 ) who do
NFS mounts.
The filer has more than one volume and sometimes during the day the output
of systat -x shows 100% disk util for a couple of minutes.
1. Is there a way to find out which volume/disk is causing bottleneck ?
2. Is there a way to find which client is causing the load to spike ?
3. Can disk util be monitored via SNMP ? I was not able to find anything
in the MIB provided on NOW.
thanks,
Pawel
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