toasters

toasters@lists.teaparty.net

2 participants
13520 discussions

Re: CIFS on Mac
by Ryan Pugatch 06 Aug '15

06 Aug '15

Just wanted to follow up - does anyone have shares with significant amounts of data and experience slow directory listings when accessing from Mac via CIFS? Thanks, Ryan On Tue, Aug 4, 2015, at 05:24 PM, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > Actually, to Andre's point, spotlight doesn't work on CIFS, only AFP. > > In talking with one of our desktop team folks, the specific issue > isn't due to indexing (though that is an issue, not having it..) but > specifically getting directory listings on the CIFS share from OS X is > very slow. Windows users do not have that problem. > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015, at 05:22 PM, Tony Bar wrote: >> Ryan – >> >> You can disable spotlight on a per-filesystem basis, see the bottom >> of the link for details. >> >> *Anthony Bar* >> 650.207.5368 >> tbar(a)berkcom.com >> *Berkeley Communications* >> www.berkcom.com[1] >> >> *From:* Ryan Pugatch [mailto:rpug@lp0.org] >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:19 PM *To:* Tony Bar *Cc:* >> Toasters(a)teaparty.net *Subject:* Re: CIFS on Mac >> >> I don't think we would want to disable spotlight across the board. >> It is useful in some cases. >> >> Thanks, >> Ryan >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015, at 04:03 PM, Tony Bar wrote: >>> Ryan - >>> >>> This may help: >>> >>> http://recomhub.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-spotlight-in-mac-os-x-yos… >>> >>> Anthony Bar >>> 650.207.5368 >>> >>> tbar(a)berkcom.com Berkeley Communications >>> >>> www.berkcom.com[2] >>> >>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Ryan Pugatch <rpug(a)lp0.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Performance when accessing netapp CIFS shares from a Mac is >>>> frustrating, >>>> and in some cases downright unusable. >>>> >>>> It seems mostly related to OS X's desire to index everything with >>>> Spotlight. Directory listings are slow, and if you're any way >>>> distant >>>> from the netapp, you'll find latency makes it completely unusable. >>>> >>>> Have any of you found how to deal with this? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ryan >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Toasters mailing list >>>> Toasters(a)teaparty.net >>>> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters > > _________________________________________________ > Toasters mailing list Toasters(a)teaparty.net > http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters Links: 1. http://www.berkcom.com/ 2. http://www.berkcom.com/

1 0

Virtualized Exchange 2010 on cDOT
by Milazzo Giacomo 05 Aug '15

05 Aug '15

Hi all, we're going to migrate a running environment in 7Mode to cDOT and, nevertheless I've studied all docs about best practice and DR scenarios I've a lot of doubts about best architecture. Now we have. Production site. 2 E2K10 virtualized Server with a two copies of db in DAG environment These 2 servers have their data on different controllers of an HA system and db are balanced on two controllers/server some as active and some as passive (but you can imagine also one server running active copies and the second the passive ones) Servers are this way built: C:\ system disk with Windows and Exchange binaries on a NFS vmdk with vmx in the same path Database disks on VMware iSCSI raw devices (this because Microsoft does not support NFS vmdk for its data...no comment!..we know...) For obvious reason there's also another little iSCSI datastore containing the "pointer" to those raw device, the mapper (rdm). This is the way it works Raw devices are managed by SnapDrive for there's also SME running for backup/mirror. DR site At recover site there's an identical enviroment with all the volumes replicated using SnapMirror modulated by SME VMware SRM together with SRA mount, in case of disaster, the right vmdk, LUNs and so on using its own script so the E2K10 servers at DR can start with all DAG One of the constrain of SRM/SRA in 7Mode is that ALL the volumes with NFS vmdk, iSCSI raw devices and iSCSI ds with rdm MUST belong to the same controller; so that is not possible to spread volumes on different controller/aggregates maybe to increase resiliency...Otherwise SRA will fail. What's about cDOT? Can I create two different SVM, one just for NFS vmdk for binaries and the second one for iSCSI contents? Or have/may have I to put all togheter? Have I to create, as stated in DR scenarios TR from NetApp, two SRM to manage the two Exchange servers or, maybe, to relocate data on different aggregates? Have these two aggregates to be resident on the same node or they can belong to the same node? What's about SRM/SRA constrain? Thanks a lot for any suggestion/idea. Regards,.

2 2

CIFS on Mac
by Ryan Pugatch 04 Aug '15

04 Aug '15

Hi all, Performance when accessing netapp CIFS shares from a Mac is frustrating, and in some cases downright unusable. It seems mostly related to OS X's desire to index everything with Spotlight. Directory listings are slow, and if you're any way distant from the netapp, you'll find latency makes it completely unusable. Have any of you found how to deal with this? Thanks, Ryan

7 10

Re: CIFS on Mac
by Ryan Pugatch 04 Aug '15

04 Aug '15

Yeah, we tried that - no difference. Ryan On Tue, Aug 4, 2015, at 04:26 PM, Clark, André M. wrote: > Spotlight is only supported on AFP-based network volumes. CIFS and > NFS volumes aren’t indexed. > > Are you connecting to those shares via cifs://server/share or > smb://server/share? There was an issue with performance if you were > mounting via cifs:// vs. smb://. > > Regards, > > André M. Clark[1]| Sr. Solutions Architect | 917.388.8236 *Tell me I > will forget... Show me I may remember... Involve me I WILL > UNDERSTAND!!! > Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible!!!* > *Red8*[2], An Insight Investments Company > www.red8.com[3] > > *From:* toasters-bounces(a)teaparty.net [mailto:toasters- > bounces(a)teaparty.net] *On Behalf Of *Tony Bar *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 > August, 2015 16:04 *To:* Ryan Pugatch <rpug(a)lp0.org> *Cc:* > Toasters(a)teaparty.net *Subject:* Re: CIFS on Mac > > Ryan - > > This may help: > > http://recomhub.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-spotlight-in-mac-os-x-yos… > > Anthony Bar > 650.207.5368 > tbar(a)berkcom.com > Berkeley Communications > www.berkcom.com[4] > > > On Aug 4, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Ryan Pugatch <rpug(a)lp0.org> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Performance when accessing netapp CIFS shares from a Mac is frustrating, >> and in some cases downright unusable. >> >> It seems mostly related to OS X's desire to index everything with >> Spotlight. Directory listings are slow, and if you're any way distant >> from the netapp, you'll find latency makes it completely unusable. >> >> Have any of you found how to deal with this? >> >> Thanks, >> Ryan >> _______________________________________________ >> Toasters mailing list >> Toasters(a)teaparty.net >> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters Links: 1. mailto:Andre.Clark@redeight.com 2. http://www.red8.com/ 3. http://www.red8.com/ 4. http://www.berkcom.com/

1 0

stuck on a configuation puzzle: NFSv3 in 8.3, netgroups and export rules
by Rue, Randy 04 Aug '15

04 Aug '15

Hello All, Sent the below to our NetApp contacts but often you beautiful people have the answers I need, better and before the vendor does. Need to limit an NFS export on an 8.3 SVM to either a NIS netgroup or an AD/LDAP nisNetgroup, preferably the LDAP. See the below. Since I wrote the below, I've also determined that the working vserver appears to have a working copy of the netgroups in cache and the broken one does not: gold::*> vserver export-policy netgroup cache show -vserver foo There are no entries matching your query. gold::*> vserver export-policy netgroup cache show -vserver pyrite-gold Vserver Netgroup State -------- ---------- ------------ pyrite-gold netgroup-cluster-rcs.fhcrc.org ready The documentation says that "One of the methods you can use to match clients in export policy rules is by using hosts listed in netgroups. You can load netgroups from a uniform resource identifier (URI) into Storage Virtual Machines (SVMs) as an alternative to using netgroups stored in external name servers (vserver services name-service netgroup load)." I'm specifically hung up on "as an alternative to using netgroups stored in external name servers." What is the method I'm missing that manually loading the netgroups via a URL (yuck) is an alternative to? Hope to hear from you, Randy in Seattle (sent to NetApp) ----------------------------------------------------------- Guys, We're attempting to set up NFS access for an SVM to a NIS netgroup or its LDAP equivalent and while I was able to do this once on a test SVM we're now unable to recreate it. On our old gear, we had some issues trying to make NIS work and eventually scripted a flat file dump of our netgroup file to the vFilers, then used the local file for hostgroup based access to NFS exports. That group name is @CLUSTER in /etc/exports That same script also takes the members of our netgroup file and exports them to an LDAP object in our AD, a nisNetgroup object called netgroup-cluster-rcs.xxx.org. That group is currently added to the export policy as @netgroup-cluster-rcs.xxx.org Listing the AD object as above works for an SVM called pyrite-gold, a test vserver. My recollection is I set that one up pretty easily after realizing NIS wasn't working. I don't recall doing anything at the CLI. I can mount an export quickly and correctly from a linux host that is a member of the group. Now we're trying to set up the same config on other SVMs ("foo") and document the steps for production and can't make it work. We've compared the config on the new SVM and pyrite-gold every which way with no luck. Gone over the GUI config a handful of times. I've also looked deeper from the CLI and found a few differences but changing them didn't solve the problem. When we try to mount the export, the attempt retries a handful of times and eventually times out: [root@RANDINO mnt]# mount foo:foo_nfs foo/ mount: mount to NFS server 'foo' failed: timed out (retrying). mount: mount to NFS server 'foo' failed: timed out (retrying). mount: mount to NFS server 'foo' failed: timed out (retrying). mount: mount to NFS server 'foo' failed: timed out (retrying). mount: mount to NFS server 'foo' failed: timed out (giving up). [root@RANDINO mnt]# >From the CLI, I did find that ns-switch for "foo" was set only for "files." Fixed that using vserver services modify with no improvement. Now all matches: gold::*> vserver services name-service ns-switch show Source Vserver Database Order --------------- ------------ --------- foo hosts files, dns foo group files foo passwd files foo netgroup ldap, nis, files foo namemap files pyrite-gold hosts files, dns pyrite-gold group files pyrite-gold passwd files pyrite-gold netgroup ldap, nis, files pyrite-gold namemap files I also took a look at LDAP client settings: gold::*> vserver services ldap client show -instance Vserver: foo Client Configuration Name: foo LDAP Server List: xxx Active Directory Domain: fhcrc.org Preferred Active Directory Servers: xxx Bind Using the Vserver's CIFS Credentials: true Schema Template: RFC-2307 LDAP Server Port: 389 Query Timeout (sec): 3 Minimum Bind Authentication Level: anonymous Bind DN (User): sops-ldap Base DN: dc-xxx,dc=org Base Search Scope: subtree User DN: - User Search Scope: subtree Group DN: - Group Search Scope: subtree Netgroup DN: - Netgroup Search Scope: subtree Vserver Owns Configuration: true Use start-tls Over LDAP Connections: false Allow SSL for the TLS Handshake Protocol: false Enable Netgroup-By-Host Lookup: false Netgroup-By-Host DN: - Netgroup-By-Host Scope: subtree Vserver: pyrite-gold Client Configuration Name: pyrite-gold LDAP Server List: xxx Active Directory Domain: fhcrc.org Preferred Active Directory Servers: xxx Bind Using the Vserver's CIFS Credentials: true Schema Template: RFC-2307 LDAP Server Port: 389 Query Timeout (sec): 3 Minimum Bind Authentication Level: anonymous Bind DN (User): tinsel-ldap Base DN: dc=xxx,dc=org Base Search Scope: subtree User DN: - User Search Scope: subtree Group DN: - Group Search Scope: subtree Netgroup DN: - Netgroup Search Scope: subtree Vserver Owns Configuration: true Use start-tls Over LDAP Connections: false Allow SSL for the TLS Handshake Protocol: false Enable Netgroup-By-Host Lookup: false Netgroup-By-Host DN: - Netgroup-By-Host Scope: subtree 2 entries were displayed. gold::*> Note that "Bind Using the Vserver's CIFS Credentials" was set to false for foo, but again, changing that from the CLI didn't make any difference. I know I never touched that setting on pyrite-gold, is it set that way because (maybe) I ran or re-ran CIFS setup after setting up NIS? We need help on this pretty quickly: either a way to make NIS work for netgroup control of an NFS export policy, or a way to make it work based on the AD nisNetgroup. Given a choice we'd prefer the LDAP way. Is there a NetApp doc I've overlooked? Randy

4 3

OCUM 6.3RC1 CLI?
by Scott Eno 30 Jul '15

30 Jul '15

Hi, Anyone know how exactly to utilize the “cli” commands in OCUM 6.3RC1? It’s listed as a new feature, but nothing much in the docs on how to run these commands. Is this only for the Linux or Windows install and not available on the VMware appliance? Thanks. — Scott Eno s.eno(a)me.com

1 0

fsecurity job monitoring.
by Jeff Cleverley 30 Jul '15

30 Jul '15

Greetings, We have a filer running 7.3.7P1 and we had to run fsecurity to correct permissions/ownership of a tree. Is there any way to see anything to check the progress, see what path it is updating, etc? We have no idea how long this job will take and it would be nice if there was something showing what it was doing. Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Cleverley IT Engineer 4380 Ziegler Road Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 970-288-4611

2 2

NDO & CIFS
by Milazzo Giacomo 29 Jul '15

29 Jul '15

Hi all, with cDOT is there a way to avoid that CIFS sessions fall during a takeover? In 7 Mode when an NDU operation is performed CIFS must is interrupted and open CIFS sessions fall if not closed before. Is there a way using failover groups of the data LIF to avoid this? Regards,

4 9

I've created a slack chat for Netapp users
by Woods, Bill 29 Jul '15

29 Jul '15

I would like access as well. Regards, Bill -----Original Message----- From: toasters-bounces(a)teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of toasters-request(a)teaparty.net Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 5:49 AM To: toasters(a)teaparty.net Subject: Toasters Digest, Vol 48, Issue 70 Send Toasters mailing list submissions to toasters(a)teaparty.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to toasters-request(a)teaparty.net You can reach the person managing the list at toasters-owner(a)teaparty.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Toasters digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Deleted Performance Manager (Bachman, Philip) 2. Re: Deleted Performance Manager (John Stoffel) 3. Re: Deleted Performance Manager (John Stoffel) 4. fsecurity job monitoring. (Jeff Cleverley) 5. I've created a slack chat for Netapp users (Basil) 6. Re: I've created a slack chat for Netapp users (Tony Bar) 7. Re: I've created a slack chat for Netapp users (Ed Morgan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:39:41 +0000 From: "Bachman, Philip" <Philip.Bachman(a)netapp.com> To: John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> Cc: "toasters(a)teaparty.net" <toasters(a)teaparty.net> Subject: Re: Deleted Performance Manager Message-ID: <C90B474F-1E25-4677-91E9-07F4C2665692(a)netapp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" John, Sounds like you are still running 1.1 or 1.0. Upgrade to 2.0RC1, currently posted on the NetApp support site and you will find the drill up/drill down you are looking for. -Phil Philip Bachman Consulting Systems Engineer Storage Management Solutions NetApp (908) 420-7800 philip.bachman(a)netapp.com Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:15 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > So has anyone actually found a good use for performance manager? I'm > running the latest version against a fairly busy but unbalanced two > node cluster and I keep getting frustrated that I can't drill down or > move up to get a better overview of things. > > I *know* I've got some performance and space issues, but I'd like to > be able to see the overall system state and then drill down into > things so I understand them better before I make changes or try to fix > stuff. > > Maybe I'm just not using it right, wouldn't be the first time... > > John > _______________________________________________ > Toasters mailing list > Toasters(a)teaparty.net > http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:14:17 -0400 From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> To: Matthew Kleifgen <matthew.kleifgen(a)rackspace.com> Cc: "toasters(a)teaparty.net" <toasters(a)teaparty.net> Subject: Re: Deleted Performance Manager Message-ID: <21942.29945.566566.676308(a)quad.stoffel.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Matthew> If you missed it, there was a release on Friday of 2.0RC1. I Matthew> upgraded the 1.1 vsphere version I was using, and I?m very Matthew> impressed with the new version. Instead of having to search Matthew> for only a few object types, the new version has drill down Matthew> from the cluster level and data on lifs, ports, nodes, etc. Matthew> The upgrade was basically painless, also. Totally missed it... now I'll be doing an upgrade on this as well to see how it is improved. It can't get much worse in my book... John ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:12:53 -0400 From: "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> To: "Waltham\, Christopher" <Christopher.Waltham(a)netapp.com> Cc: "toasters(a)teaparty.net" <toasters(a)teaparty.net> Subject: Re: Deleted Performance Manager Message-ID: <21942.58661.533816.429159(a)quad.stoffel.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I've done the upgrade to v2.0RC1 and it's *much* more useful. The upgrade was easy, esp since I only had a week or so's worth of data to convert and upgrade. Still not ideal... I semi wish there was more of a 'top' command. I have used 'qos statistics workload performance show' but it has a bug where you can't see the volume names because they're truncated, which makes it difficult to use. And it doesn't pay attention to the width of the terminal... And you can refresh the display nicely too. But I can't figure out how to widen some of the columns without doing something like: set -showseperator " : " but that still doesn't work properly, the various fields are truncated in 8.2.3P2, though it's also useful to look at statistics show-periodic but it's still not quite there in my mind. Christopher> If you're still on OPM 1.0, upgrading to 1.1 and then to Christopher> 2.0 RC is a little easier than going to 2.0 directly. Christopher> From: <toasters-bounces(a)teaparty.net> on behalf of Matthew Christopher> Kleifgen < matthew.kleifgen(a)rackspace.com> Christopher> Date: Monday, July 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM Christopher> To: Basil <basilberntsen(a)gmail.com>, John Stoffel Christopher> <john(a)stoffel.org> Christopher> Cc: "toasters(a)teaparty.net" <toasters(a)teaparty.net> Christopher> Subject: Re: Deleted Performance Manager Christopher> If you missed it, there was a release on Friday of 2.0RC1. I upgraded the 1.1 vsphere version Christopher> I was using, and I?m very impressed with the new version. Instead of having to search for Christopher> only a few object types, the new version has drill down from the cluster level and data on Christopher> lifs, ports, nodes, etc. The upgrade was basically painless, also. Christopher> -- Christopher> Matt Kleifgen Christopher> From: <toasters-bounces(a)teaparty.net> on behalf of Basil <basilberntsen(a)gmail.com> Christopher> Date: Monday, July 27, 2015 at 7:35 AM Christopher> To: John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> Christopher> Cc: "toasters(a)teaparty.net" <toasters(a)teaparty.net> Christopher> Subject: Re: Deleted Performance Manager Christopher> No, it's barely functional. It's got a lot of promise, but lacks some very basic features I'd Christopher> have expected in 1.0. Storage performance management is the achilles heel of most storage Christopher> vendors, and this is no exception. I hope Netapp will put together some sort of focus group to Christopher> guide the next few iterations. It really does have promise- of all the useless performance Christopher> applications I've used, this one does the coolest useless tricks... like their algorithm for Christopher> determining bully volumes and telling you which layer the problem is at. Christopher> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:14 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: Christopher> So has anyone actually found a good use for performance manager? I'm Christopher> running the latest version against a fairly busy but unbalanced two Christopher> node cluster and I keep getting frustrated that I can't drill down or Christopher> move up to get a better overview of things. Christopher> I *know* I've got some performance and space issues, but I'd like to Christopher> be able to see the overall system state and then drill down into Christopher> things so I understand them better before I make changes or try to fix Christopher> stuff. Christopher> Maybe I'm just not using it right, wouldn't be the first time... Christopher> John Christopher> _______________________________________________ Christopher> Toasters mailing list Christopher> Toasters(a)teaparty.net Christopher> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:00:47 -0600 From: Jeff Cleverley <jeff.cleverley(a)avagotech.com> To: "<Toasters(a)teaparty.net>" <Toasters(a)teaparty.net> Subject: fsecurity job monitoring. Message-ID: <CAANBop2m_QLh=pTHZ+Ctgrg8OJWgmgFLFw_q_7rfFwAQEB0-Xw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Greetings, We have a filer running 7.3.7P1 and we had to run fsecurity to correct permissions/ownership of a tree. Is there any way to see anything to check the progress, see what path it is updating, etc? We have no idea how long this job will take and it would be nice if there was something showing what it was doing. Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Cleverley IT Engineer 4380 Ziegler Road Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 970-288-4611

1 0

I've created a slack chat for Netapp users
by Basil 29 Jul '15

29 Jul '15

This mailing list is awesome, and in the tradition of Netapp users helping each other out, I've created us a slack room, which is basically a chat room that you need an invite to view. https://netappusers.slack.com Please reply to this email if you want an invite.

3 2

Jump to page:

2025

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

1997

toasters