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RE: Raid Groups and Volumes
by Dennis.Haag＠netapp.com 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

See System Administrator's Guide: page 72 Disk Concepts, page 80 Volume Concepts. Raid Groups are subsets of Volumes, not the other way around (for NetApp filers). You can use qtrees to effectively partition your volume if you need to rather than creating separate volumes. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hostetter [mailto:BrianH@dice.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 8:53 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Raid Groups and Volumes Hello, I just got my two new 760s with 2 shelves of 36G drives each. I am going through the setup and have a question on Volumes and Raid Groups. Can I create two shelves into one big raid group in order to take advantage of all the spindles, and then create two volumes on that raid group? Or do I have to create 2 raid groups (thus using an extra parity drive) and have 1 volume living on 1 raid group. --Brian _______________________________________________ Dl-toasters mailing list Dl-toasters(a)netapp.com http://mailhost.corp.netapp.com/mailman/listinfo/dl-toasters

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RE: Starting F720 from scratch
by Adam.Fox＠netapp.com 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

Definitely follow this up with a look at NOW, but here are the basic steps as I have done it in the past. 1. Boot to the 1-5 menu (use floppies or the floppy-boot? variable). 2. Select option 4. 3 After you are finished, get to a filer prompt and re-install the system files for the ONTAP version you wish to have on the new filer. 4. type download to download the boot image onto the disks. 5. reboot -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Henrique Pantarotto [mailto:henrique@corp.terra.com.br] > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:50 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Starting F720 from scratch > > > Hello friends, > > I have a F720 that I need to "format" it.. ;-) What I mean > is that I need > to erase everything on it, and install it all over from scratch. > > What are the recommended steps to do that? Can anyone help me? >

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FW: Starting F720 from scratch
by Pam.Eaken＠netapp.com 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

Hi, It's in the Data ONTAP 5.3 SAG in the Troubleshooting chapter in the section titled, "How to initialize all disks and create a new file system." Pam Eaken Mgr. Tech Pubs Network Appliance -> -----Original Message----- > From: Henrique Pantarotto [mailto:henrique@corp.terra.com.br] > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:50 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Starting F720 from scratch > > > Hello friends, > > I have a F720 that I need to "format" it.. ;-) What I mean is that I need > to erase everything on it, and install it all over from scratch. > > What are the recommended steps to do that? Can anyone help me? > > > Thanks!! > _______________________________________________ > Henrique Pantarotto > SysOp Site São Paulo > Terra Networks Brasil S/A > A Internet mais sua do que nunca > Tel: (11) 5505-5728 r.316/238 ICQ: 6934285 > henrique(a)corp.terra.com.br > > _______________________________________________ > Dl-toasters mailing list > Dl-toasters(a)netapp.com > http://mailhost.corp.netapp.com/mailman/listinfo/dl-toasters > _______________________________________________ > Dl-tpubs mailing list > Dl-tpubs(a)netapp.com > http://mailhost.corp.netapp.com/mailman/listinfo/dl-tpubs > _______________________________________________ Dl-tpubs mailing list Dl-tpubs(a)netapp.com http://mailhost.corp.netapp.com/mailman/listinfo/dl-tpubs

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Raid Groups and Volumes
by Brian Hostetter 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

Hello, I just got my two new 760s with 2 shelves of 36G drives each. I am going through the setup and have a question on Volumes and Raid Groups. Can I create two shelves into one big raid group in order to take advantage of all the spindles, and then create two volumes on that raid group? Or do I have to create 2 raid groups (thus using an extra parity drive) and have 1 volume living on 1 raid group. --Brian

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Re: Raid Groups and Volumes
by jmiddlebrooks＠datalink.com 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

You can have multiple raid groups within a volume but not multiple volumes within a raid group. Jason Middlebrooks Systems Engineer Datalink Corp. 888-933-9327 x2970 "Brian Hostetter" <BrianH(a)dice.com> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent by: cc: owner-toasters@mat Subject: Raid Groups and Volumes hworks.com 06/14/2000 11:52 AM Hello, I just got my two new 760s with 2 shelves of 36G drives each. I am going through the setup and have a question on Volumes and Raid Groups. Can I create two shelves into one big raid group in order to take advantage of all the spindles, and then create two volumes on that raid group? Or do I have to create 2 raid groups (thus using an extra parity drive) and have 1 volume living on 1 raid group. --Brian

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Starting F720 from scratch
by Henrique Pantarotto 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

Hello friends, I have a F720 that I need to "format" it.. ;-) What I mean is that I need to erase everything on it, and install it all over from scratch. What are the recommended steps to do that? Can anyone help me? Thanks!! _______________________________________________ Henrique Pantarotto SysOp Site São Paulo Terra Networks Brasil S/A A Internet mais sua do que nunca Tel: (11) 5505-5728 r.316/238 ICQ: 6934285 henrique(a)corp.terra.com.br

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RE: Unix group permission and NT access on a filer
by rob.hawley＠netapp.com 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

There are a number of important bug fixes and improvements in the security model in 5.3. I would encourage you to upgrade as soon as practical. When you say multiprotocol I believe you mean is what would happen if you started using a more NT style of security. That is another good reason to upgrade. The UNIX portion of the mixed security model was not fully implemented in 5.2. 5.2 fully implemented pure UNIX security as you are currently using. It also implements ACLs from the NT side. It did not fully implement UNIX access to files with ACLs. The NOW articles I cited describe the full implementation that is contained in 5.3. The reference I cited earlier also is a more detailed discussion on the security model then what I could present in an email. I would encourage you to have a look at that document. -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Schwartz [mailto:eschwart@genuity.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:59 AM To: Hawley, Rob; mstjohn(a)genuity.net Cc: eschwart(a)genuity.net; Muhlestein, Mark; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Unix group permission and NT access on a filer Thanks! We're running 5.2.3P1 I've been talking to the filer admin about upgrading. It sounds like the immediate short-term fix to our problem might be to create a small multiprotocol qtree while we evaluate whether to upgrade the OS and/or change the main qtrees. We need to make sure that we understand all the security implications of changing a qtree from unix to multiprotocol. Do you have anything that shows how the filer stores permission, whatever the filer equivalent of an inode is? (qnode? Wnode?) We were trying to whiteboard how the permissions work. Specifically: 1) I start with a Unix qtree on the filer 2) User directory is created with unix permissions set to 755 3) We then change the qtree from unix to multiprotocol 4) User accesses his directory as a CIFS share 5) User creates a subdirectory and files under his home What will the permissions be on those files? 755? Will they have anything in their NT ACL's? I am under the impression that the filer stores permissions in some "neutral" format which it translates to Unix permission bits or NT ACL's, PLUS has some extra storage for NT ACL's - is that how it works? Also, What happens if you create a multiprotocol file system and then change it later to unix? Is the additional ACL information a) translated, b) deleted, c) stored but not used (so that if you changed it back to multiprotocol again it might still be there?) thanks for any pictures Betsy At 07:06 AM 6/13/00 -0700, rob.hawley(a)netapp.com wrote: >What version of the filer are you running? Is it 5.3 or later? > >The filer has always supported multiprotocol access to files. With 5.3 we >have >completed our security model that is described in the following paper. -- Elizabeth Schwartz 781-262-6565 Unix System Administrator eschwart(a)bbnplanet.com Genuity, Inc

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List of Unix operating systems
by Uros Lampret 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

Is there a list of Unix operating systems with wich NetApp Filer will work. Like: Unix, Sun-Solaris... What about Novell Netware or AIX or VMS ? Uros Lampret

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Lost password
by Gustavo Leite de Mendonca Chaves 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

Hi, Please, forgive me if this is in some FAQ but I couldn't find any. (Could you point me to it?) I've lost the root password of our filer. I've read in the SA Guide that I can change it by booting from a diskete. However, the filer is up and running. How can I reboot it in a safe manner having no access to its command line (short of powering it down)? Thanks, Gustavo.

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RE: Lost password
by jeff.mohler＠netapp.com 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

There are however, some commands that dont work via rsh. I dont have a list handy, but they do exist. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Orr [mailto:orrjl@stl.nexen.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:02 PM To: TTSG Cc: Mohler, Jeff; gustavo(a)cpqd.com.br; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Lost password Nope! Just have to have the root access - you can use rsh to do any command from a remote machine. You can't do a straight rsh to get a shell on a filer, but you can do rsh <filer> <command> as root on a box that has root permissions to the filer... I just discovered it the other day.... On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, TTSG wrote: > > > > If all you wish to do is halt it...type halt. > > > > You can telnet to it, rsh to it, use Filerview... > > > I would imagine all of these need a password to log in, > which the user doesn't have.... Right? > > Tuc/TTSG > > -----Original Message----- > > From: TTSG [mailto:ttsg@ttsg.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 7:26 AM > > To: gustavo(a)cpqd.com.br > > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > > Subject: Re: Lost password > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Please, forgive me if this is in some FAQ but I couldn't find any. > > > (Could you point me to it?) > > > > > > I've lost the root password of our filer. I've read in the SA Guide > > > that I can change it by booting from a diskete. However, the filer is > > > up and running. How can I reboot it in a safe manner having no access > > > to its command line (short of powering it down)? > > > > > **THIS IS TOTALLY UNTESTED** > > > > I would think if you failed a drive, the system would bring itself > > down cleanly after X hours. > > > > Tuc/TTSG > > > > ----------- Jay Orr Systems Administrator Fujitsu Nexion Inc. St. Louis, MO _______________________________________________ Dl-toasters mailing list Dl-toasters(a)netapp.com http://mailhost.corp.netapp.com/mailman/listinfo/dl-toasters

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