toasters April 2008

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moving data from R200 to FAS2050
by Hisham H. Sanad 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

I have 9TB " CIFS and NFS data " in R200 , I want move this data to the new system FAS2050. What the best way to move this data.? Can I connect the two systems together thru fiber ? ,how can I achieve that, Best Regards Hisham Sanad cid:image001.jpg@01C7E3E9.837C6040

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Re: Licensing Question
by Michael Anderson 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

I would take it even farther to this level, Why can't we transfer the licenses that we paid for and have maintained on support to a replacement filer when we retire an asset???? Well other than the obvious. This is my biggest hang up. It is very frustrating that I have to chuck hundreds of thousands of dollars in SnapMirror, SnapRestore, CIFS and NFS licenses because NetApp decided that my platform will not be supported anymore. ----- Original Message ---- From: "Darragh, Stephen J (CSC) (US SSA)" <stephen.j.darragh(a)baesystems.com> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:54:49 AM Subject: RE: Licensing Question Hello, Why wouldn't you allow the software to move with the hardware even if its not the original owner? I am sure you have valid reasons and it would be nice if you could convey those to all these people who use your product. Thank you Stephen Darragh -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Warmenhoven, Dan Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:14 PM To: Kryder, Andy Cc: ScottUCE(a)aol.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com; voiperster(a)gmail.com; Roach, Steven Subject: RE: Licensing Question Hi Andy, As General Council, would you please ensure that none of our software licenses are transferable, and if any have been transferred illegally that the people responsible are dealt with in a appropriate manner. Thanks Dan From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:02 PM To: Warmenhoven, Dan; Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Union Computer has been selling discounted and used NetApp systems and add-ons, including filers with transferable software licenses, for over ten years. Of the nearly 300 companies to whom we have sold NetApp hardware during this time, dozens have been purchasing used filers for which Network Appliance, Inc. is obligated to transfer the software licenses -- free of charge. Nonetheless, it is true that most NetApp filers’ licenses cannot be transferred to new users; as such, many of these units will sit in our warehouse until they can be sold for parts, maintenance sparing, testing and backup. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:51:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan.Warmenhoven(a)netapp.com writes: None of NetApp's software licenses are transferable, and they never have been in my 14 years as CEO. Dan Dan Warmenhoven Chairman & CEO NetApp, Inc. 1-408-822-6600 Direct dan(a)netapp.com www.netapp.com From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:29 PM To: Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. From: Peter Rosenthal [mailto:voiperster@gmail.com] Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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Re: Licensing Question
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 _scott(a)unioncomputer.com_ (mailto:scott@unioncomputer.com) 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. ____________________________________ From: Peter Rosenthal [_mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]_ (mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]) Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

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RE: Licensing Question
by Darragh, Stephen J (CSC) (US SSA) 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hello, Why wouldn't you allow the software to move with the hardware even if its not the original owner? I am sure you have valid reasons and it would be nice if you could convey those to all these people who use your product. Thank you Stephen Darragh -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Warmenhoven, Dan Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:14 PM To: Kryder, Andy Cc: ScottUCE(a)aol.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com; voiperster(a)gmail.com; Roach, Steven Subject: RE: Licensing Question Hi Andy, As General Council, would you please ensure that none of our software licenses are transferable, and if any have been transferred illegally that the people responsible are dealt with in a appropriate manner. Thanks Dan _____ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:02 PM To: Warmenhoven, Dan; Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Union Computer has been selling discounted and used NetApp systems and add-ons, including filers with transferable software licenses, for over ten years. Of the nearly 300 companies to whom we have sold NetApp hardware during this time, dozens have been purchasing used filers for which Network Appliance, Inc. is obligated to transfer the software licenses -- free of charge. Nonetheless, it is true that most NetApp filers' licenses cannot be transferred to new users; as such, many of these units will sit in our warehouse until they can be sold for parts, maintenance sparing, testing and backup. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:51:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan.Warmenhoven(a)netapp.com writes: None of NetApp's software licenses are transferable, and they never have been in my 14 years as CEO. Dan Dan Warmenhoven Chairman & CEO NetApp, Inc. 1-408-822-6600 Direct dan(a)netapp.com <mailto:dan@netapp.com> www.netapp.com <http://www.netapp.com/> _____ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:29 PM To: Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. _____ From: Peter Rosenthal [ mailto:voiperster@gmail.com] <mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]> Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 _____ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> . _____ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> .

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Domain Controller Error
by Xishan 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi all... Can someone please throw some light on this error message : Domain Controller error: NetLogon error 0xc0000022: - Filer's security information differs from domain controller Thanx in advance --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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FAS2000 Series
by Robert K. Borowicz 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these certainly fit a nice price point for me. I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050 with 12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives. TIA -Robert

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RE: Licensing Question
by Warmenhoven, Dan 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi Andy, As General Council, would you please ensure that none of our software licenses are transferable, and if any have been transferred illegally that the people responsible are dealt with in a appropriate manner. Thanks Dan ________________________________ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:02 PM To: Warmenhoven, Dan; Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Union Computer has been selling discounted and used NetApp systems and add-ons, including filers with transferable software licenses, for over ten years. Of the nearly 300 companies to whom we have sold NetApp hardware during this time, dozens have been purchasing used filers for which Network Appliance, Inc. is obligated to transfer the software licenses -- free of charge. Nonetheless, it is true that most NetApp filers' licenses cannot be transferred to new users; as such, many of these units will sit in our warehouse until they can be sold for parts, maintenance sparing, testing and backup. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:51:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan.Warmenhoven(a)netapp.com writes: None of NetApp's software licenses are transferable, and they never have been in my 14 years as CEO. Dan Dan Warmenhoven Chairman & CEO NetApp, Inc. 1-408-822-6600 Direct dan(a)netapp.com <mailto:dan@netapp.com> www.netapp.com <http://www.netapp.com/> ________________________________ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:29 PM To: Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. ________________________________ From: Peter Rosenthal [ mailto:voiperster@gmail.com] <mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]> Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 ________________________________ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> . ________________________________ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> .

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Reseller who sells software licenses
by Peter Rosenthal 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Could anyone supply the contact details of a NetApp reseller who would be able to provide a quote for a software license to us? Thanks.

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RJ45 Serial
by Peter Rosenthal 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hi Folks, RJ45 console serial pinouts look the same as cisco. Has anyone tried using a cisco serial cable on a filer with an RJ45 serial console? Thanks.

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RE: where to find man pages
by Josef Radinger 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Thanks for your answer, but i once managed to download the actual manpages for use with "man" on my linux-system. i dont seek the html-version, but the man-version. should have been clearer on that. josef On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 08:49 -0400, Parisi, Justin wrote: > http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel723/html/ontap/cmdref/ > index.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josef Radinger [mailto:josef.radinger@i-med.ac.at] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:14 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: where to find man pages > > hi, > > i seek now for around 3 hours in several places (i even looked at the > source of the html-pages na_admin.mm[l|i]) the link to download the > man-pages for ontap (7.2.3). > > can someone send me that link? > thanks > > ps.: those mml and mmi files look very interesting (and potential > dangerous). > -- > MfG > Josef Radinger > it-services > Medizinische Universitaet Innsbruck > -- MfG Josef Radinger it-services Medizinische Universitaet Innsbruck

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