For more information on how to go about doing it using ndmp see:
http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=ntapcs2471
Paul Chan
NOW KB team
-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Schein [mailto:igor@txc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Caven, Marilyn
Cc: 'Geoff Hardin'; toasters
Subject: Re: moving files between filers
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:19:40AM -0700, Caven, Marilyn wrote:
> If the development data is on a separate volume from the production data you
…
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> throttle of the volcopy to 10 (max) on source filer. The destination volume
> must be offline when the data is being copied and it will write over
> anything on the destination volume.
>
> If the dev and prod data is on the same volume, I've always used tar and
> directed the output to a nfs mounted filesystem from another filer.
If, like in my situation, you need to constantly move data between 2
production filers over GB pipe, ndmpcopy is a clear winner speed-wise.
Igor
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If the development data is on a separate volume from the production data you
can do a volcopy which works quite well. There is an option to turn up the
throttle of the volcopy to 10 (max) on source filer. The destination volume
must be offline when the data is being copied and it will write over
anything on the destination volume.
If the dev and prod data is on the same volume, I've always used tar and
directed the output to a nfs mounted filesystem from another filer.
Marilyn
Next Level …
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-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Hardin [mailto:geoff.hardin@dalsemi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:35 AM
To: toasters
Subject: moving files between filers
What is the preferred method of moving directories between filers?
I was wondering what method the toaster community in general
preferred. In the past I have used tar from my UNIX admin host, rsync,
dump/restore, ndmpcopy, and cp. I have about given up on ndmpcopy
because even across GbE, I see better thruput using tar or
dump/restore. A couple of the admins I've spoken to swear by rsync, but
I have only used it sparingly.
I have a clustered pair of F760s, one filer for a production database
and the second for a development database. Originally, both the
production and development work was on the first filer, but space for
production work began to run low. We are now moving development data
off the production filer onto the development filer and we want to
minimize the impact to the production filer while moving the data in a
timely manner to the development system. The filers are on the same
backup GbE LAN, so the network connection between the two is stable and
fast.
Any thoughts, opinions, or war stories greatly appreciated.
Geoff Hardin
geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com
Difficulty is the excuse history never accepts.
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volcopy does work well, the destination volume blocks are copied identically to the source volume. One benefit of using ndmpcopy is that the data is written contiguously which will eliminate any fragmentation.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Caven, Marilyn [mailto:mcaven@nlc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:20 AM
To: 'Geoff Hardin'; toasters
Subject: RE: moving files between filers
If the development data is on a separate volume from the production data you
can do a volcopy …
[View More]which works quite well. There is an option to turn up the
throttle of the volcopy to 10 (max) on source filer. The destination volume
must be offline when the data is being copied and it will write over
anything on the destination volume.
If the dev and prod data is on the same volume, I've always used tar and
directed the output to a nfs mounted filesystem from another filer.
Marilyn
Next Level Communications
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Hardin [mailto:geoff.hardin@dalsemi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:35 AM
To: toasters
Subject: moving files between filers
What is the preferred method of moving directories between filers?
I was wondering what method the toaster community in general
preferred. In the past I have used tar from my UNIX admin host, rsync,
dump/restore, ndmpcopy, and cp. I have about given up on ndmpcopy
because even across GbE, I see better thruput using tar or
dump/restore. A couple of the admins I've spoken to swear by rsync, but
I have only used it sparingly.
I have a clustered pair of F760s, one filer for a production database
and the second for a development database. Originally, both the
production and development work was on the first filer, but space for
production work began to run low. We are now moving development data
off the production filer onto the development filer and we want to
minimize the impact to the production filer while moving the data in a
timely manner to the development system. The filers are on the same
backup GbE LAN, so the network connection between the two is stable and
fast.
Any thoughts, opinions, or war stories greatly appreciated.
Geoff Hardin
geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com
Difficulty is the excuse history never accepts.
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What is the preferred method of moving directories between filers?
I was wondering what method the toaster community in general
preferred. In the past I have used tar from my UNIX admin host, rsync,
dump/restore, ndmpcopy, and cp. I have about given up on ndmpcopy
because even across GbE, I see better thruput using tar or
dump/restore. A couple of the admins I've spoken to swear by rsync, but
I have only used it sparingly.
I have a clustered pair of F760s, one filer for a production …
[View More]database
and the second for a development database. Originally, both the
production and development work was on the first filer, but space for
production work began to run low. We are now moving development data
off the production filer onto the development filer and we want to
minimize the impact to the production filer while moving the data in a
timely manner to the development system. The filers are on the same
backup GbE LAN, so the network connection between the two is stable and
fast.
Any thoughts, opinions, or war stories greatly appreciated.
Geoff Hardin
geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com
Difficulty is the excuse history never accepts.
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Hi all,
Is anybody using a toater for clearcase 4.2. Why I am putting it here is
because I need to the real life scenarios of it implementation. If
anybody could help me that'll be really great. I have gone though the
netapp site wherein they mention about the same.
Rahul
Rahul Kumar
Infrastructure Analyst
Rahul.Kumar(a)eds.com
91-20-2930812
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Miles [mailto:chris@psychofx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:07 PM
To: toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: …
[View More]disable boot menu
One of my F760s pauses at the boot menu (1-5 prompt, usually accessed by
CTRL-C I believe) every time it reboots, which is rather annoying as I
have to hit 1 to continue the boot.
How can I disable this?
Cheers,
CM
--
Chris Miles
chris(a)psychofx.com
http://www.psychofx.com/chris/
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Great minds think alike ;). This is an RFE internally 75510
for reading and writing OBP vars from the running OS.
I've added your comments to the bug to add some momentum
to it.
Regards,
Mike Kiernan
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Thompson [mailto:cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:23 PM
To: scl(a)sasha.acc.virginia.edu
Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Re: disable boot menu
scl(a)sasha.acc.virginia.edu (Steve Losen) writes:
>
> > One of my F760s …
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> > CTRL-C I believe) every time it reboots, which is rather annoying as I
> > have to hit 1 to continue the boot.
> >
> > How can I disable this?
>
> Shut down to the OK prompt and type this
>
> printenv floppy-boot?
>
> If it is set to "true", then that is your problem.
> Set it to false like this:
>
> setenv floppy-boot? false
This reminds me to ask a question that's been at the back of my mind for
a while: is there any way of interrogating the filer boot prom settings
*without* shutting down first? I am thinking of something like the
eeprom(1m) command in Solaris, which can be used while the system is
running.
Chris Thompson
Email: cet1(a)cam.ac.uk
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I am wondering which release of ONTAP I should be running on a
leading-edge (but production) server here...
We are currently running 6.2R2D2 --- the D2 part because we wanted
the fix for 70674. We usually run the FCS release, but not a Dx one,
so this makes me somewhat uneasy. Now 6.2.1 is out and FCS, and has
70674 in its fix list, so it would be natural to change to that.
But meanwhile we've got the question of 75012 (the CA-2002-19 bug-in-
-most-known-DNS-resolvers thing) outstanding. We …
[View More]think we're pretty
well protected against it being exploited, but will be a lot happier
with a fix. This *isn't* listed as fixed in 6.2.1. The Bugs Online
entry for 75012 names a number of Dx releases in which it is fixed,
including 6.2R2D6, but there's no mention of a 6.2.1D<anything>.
So I need to decide between 6.2.1, 6.2R2D6, or waiting for something
else.
Maybe toasters isn't the best place to ask about this ... can NetApp
people even post to the list again yet?
Chris Thompson
Email: cet1(a)cam.ac.uk
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On both our new filers, running 6.1.2R1, I have just noticed that the
ownership of its "/vol/vol0/etc" belongs, not to the expected "root", but
to an apparently arbitrary uid "20041" (gid "30").
Fortunately:
(a) we have not allocated that uid to anyone;
(b) I think the only machine to which "/etc" would be user-accessible
(a Solaris UNIX box fro our user admin.) can have access restrictions
to prevent telnet/ssh-like user-access.
Nevertheless, it does seem a little worrying (…
[View More]correction, potentially very
worrying) that this critical "/etc" directory is owned by an ordinary
user. (Just suppose this October's student intake allocates that uid to
someone who likes exploring...)
All the contents of "/etc" are root-owned, except for a subdirectory
called "java" and within that some (not all) of its contents:
drwxr-xr-x 3 20041 30 4096 Jun 11 08:11 .
drwxr-xr-x 20 20041 30 65536 Jul 22 14:53 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root other 1912820 Jan 9 2002 .jitcache.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1912820 May 14 14:05 .jitcache.db.saved
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root other 8844945 Jan 8 2002 classes.zip
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root other 8844945 Jan 8 2002 classes.zip-inuse
-rw-r--r-- 1 20041 30 238737 Oct 13 2000 crysec.zip
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 139895 Jun 14 00:35 jit.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 20041 30 505097 Oct 13 2000 jsafe.zip
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 14 14:05 lib
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root other 1422554 Jan 8 2002 netapp.zip
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root other 1422554 Jan 8 2002 netapp.zip-inuse
-rw-r--r-- 1 20041 30 217093 Oct 13 2000 phaos.zip
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root other 1942824 Jan 8 2002 redshift.zip
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root other 1942824 Jan 8 2002 redshift.zip-inuse
-rw-r--r-- 1 20041 30 113216 Oct 13 2000 secureadmin.zip
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root other 139753 Jan 8 2002 servlet.zip
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root other 139753 Jan 8 2002 servlet.zip-inuse
Is this general, affecting other sites, or does it suggest that something
peculiar happened at our installation?
I understand that, since site installation, we have had something added:
from memory, I think it was "Secure FilerView", but I may be wrong, and
the local person who oversaw this is currently away.
Any comments, anyone?
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: Durham :
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If what follows is in the manual or is a FAQ, then just point me in the
direction...
Executive summary: Is there an easy way (variant of "quota report"
perhaps?) to discover which users are over-quota?
Detail:
We are beginning to migrate our home directories (15K-20K of them) from
Solaris to NetApp. Quotas are a vital part of the control of these
directories.
Under Solaris (trad. UNIX), each user has an explicit quota. While this
is possible under NetApp, it seems far more sensible to use …
[View More]default quotas
where possible (and the documentation encourages this).
We have set up some reasonable default quotas, and are using rsync
(thanks, folk!) to get the user files prepared in the future NetApp
location: transferred (from 20+ volumes across three Solaris fileservers)
and kept in sync.
Naturally a few of our users have more data than our NetApp default
quotas. What we simply want to do is identify these exceptions so we can
apply explicit quotas. We will, if possible, adjust the defaults so that
the number of exceptions, from our 20K user-base, is reasonably small.
Under Solaris etc., the output from its "repquota" command was easily
eyeball-able (I know, no such word!) for such exceptions: "+" and expiry
times.
Is there a variant of NetApp's "quota report" that either restricts output
to over-quota users, or has a field indicating over-quota, or similar?
Or is the NetApp convention simply to cobble together a bit of awk/perl to
extract those lines (from the total 20K) in which "Used" exceeds "Limit"?
Thanks in advance.
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: University of Durham :
: http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road :
: Durham :
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Brian,
Snapmirror and vol copy turned out not to be an option,
because the 760 is at 5.3.1; we're getting the 'volume is in
transitional state, aborting' error even though the destination
is offline. NDMP copy looks like the remaining method, the 760
is being upgraded to 6.2.1 and I want to duplicate the data before
starting that.
Piotr,
Yes, disks and data too. %-{)# What I saw from the first
attempt was no response to ping, on either side, even after doing
ifconfig down/up of the …
[View More]e9b nic. Maybe the magic arp has leaked
out the switch I was using? After connecting the original filer
I had to do arp -d and ping again, before it would respond to the
unix host mount request.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Long
To: Toal, Dave
Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com'
Sent: 7/19/02 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: arp spoof, 840 with 6.2.1
Dave,
Are you replicating the data to the F840 or just moving shelves? If
you're replicating data with something like Snapmirror, you might
consider
the Ontap 6.X snapmirror migrate command. This alters the disk labels
on
the destination so you don't end up with stale NFS filehandles on all
the
clients (if you're using NFS). For CIFS, you don't need to worry about
this.
/Brian/
> Good morning. I've got a question about substituting
> one netapp for another, by setting the ip addresses the same
> and changing the ethernet cable going to the switch from one
> to the other.
>
> The netapp I'm trying to bring online is the 840. The
> ether (mac) addresses are showing different from inconfig, and
> I'm wondering if there's a way to set that explicitly; I don't
> see it from the options listed.
>
>
>
> the 840:
>
> netapp-demo*> ifconfig e9b
> e9b: flags=48043<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 206.33.27.85 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 206.33.27.127
> ether 00:20:fc:1e:3a:75 (100tx-fd-down)
> netapp-demo*>
>
>
>
>
>
> the other netapp, a 760 running 5.3.6R1:
>
> wesson> ifconfig e0
> e0: flags=200043<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING> mtu 1500
> inet 206.33.27.85 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 206.33.27.127
> partner inet 206.33.27.86 (not in use)
> ether 00:a0:98:00:78:c5 (100tx-fd-up)
> wesson>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Toal
> Thomson & Thomson
> North Quincy, MA
>
>
>
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