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Kinh moi tham du: Hoi cho thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung - Viet (27-30/3) tai China
by xttm＠china-vn.com 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn Kinh moi tham du >>>> Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II Thoi gian to chuc : 27/03-30/03/2003 Dia diem: Dai Le Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Du kien quy mo trien lam: 250 gian hang Don vi to chuc: Phan ban Quang Tay-Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc Uy ban nhan dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Cong ty co phan thuong mai & xuat nhap khau Quang Tay Cong ty trien lam kinh te thuong mai Hoan Cau Dong to chuc: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (VCCI) Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Trung Quoc Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://www.china-vn.net Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc. Giay Moi Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II se to chuc vao ngay 27 - 30 thang 03 nam 2003 tai Dai Hoi Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay thanh pho Nam Ninh.Tinh Quang Tay TQ la mot hanh lang chinh cho cac doanh nghiep cac tinh noi dia Trung Quoc nhat la cac tinh ven bien Dong Nam Bo va cac tinh mien Bac TQ di vao thi truong cac nuoc ASEAN qua Viet Nam, tinh Quang Tay TQ cung da tro thanh dau cau cua Trung Quoc tien vao thi truong Dong Nam A. Sau khi gia nhap WTO va di doi voi su khoi dong cua mo hinh khu mau dich tu do Trung Quoc - ASEAN(10+1),khien cho vi the uu viet cua Quang Tay cang noi bat len. Cuoc hoi cho lan nay se to chuc voi ton chi la de phat huy day du vi the va uu viet ve tai yen cua Quang Tay, that chat hon nua moi quan he mau dich va hop tac kinh te giua hai nuoc Trung - Viet. Chung toi se het suc phuc vu tot cho cac vi quy khach Trung Quoc va Viet Nam den du Hoi cho nay va chung toi se cung cap day du dich vu nhu Quang cao hang xuat khau Viet Nam, xuc tien hop tac Trung-Viet, tim doi tac TQ cho Doanh nghiep Viet Nam, lap quan he voi Co quan chinh phu TQ cho DN Viet Nam, giup dai ly san pham, gioi thieu du an dau tu, tu van chinh sach kinh te ….Kinh moi ban cung nhau xay dung mot bac thang cho su hop tac va giao luu thuong mai giua hai nuoc Trung Quoc va Viet Nam. Noi dung trien lam: Cong nghiep: Thiet bi in an va dong goi, nguyen lieu va san pham cao su, giay, chat deo…, xe may & phu tung, cong cu gia dung, do dien gia dung…, Cac san pham cong nghe cao…. Nong nghiep: Nong lam dac san, giong cay trong, thiet bi co gioi nong nghiep, che bien & dong goi thuc pham va nong san; thuc an gia suc, phan bon hoa hoc, thuoc tru sau, thuc pham… Y te: Thiet bi y te, duoc pham va hoa chat… Che bien thuy hai san: Cong nghe va thiet bi che bien thuy hai san… Tieu thu cong nghiep: Cac mat hang thu cong my nghe, qua tang, do choi, cac san pham tong hop khac… Gioi thieu cac du an dau tu, giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet Lich hoi cho: Ngay 25 - 26/03/2003: Dang ky va bo tri gian hang Ngay 27 - 30/03/2003: Trien lam, hoi thao, khao sat thuc te Ngay 30/03/2003: Ket thuc trien lam Hinh thuc tham gia: 1. Thue gian hang: Chi phi thue gian hang:600USD/mot gian Tieu chuan gian hang: 3m X 2m = 6m2 , bao gom: Dat thue, vach ngan, tham trai san, 01 o cam dien 13A-220V, 01 ban 02 ghe, bieu hieu cong ty bang tieng Viet hoac tieng Trung. Quang cao trong Show Catalogue: 200USD/trang mau trang trong. Phi van chuyen tu Ha Noi den cua khau Huu Nghi Quan:200USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan(chia binh quan cho tat ca cac doanh nghiep tham du co chuyen hang), phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Cuoc phi van chuyen hang hoa tu Huu Nghi Quan - Nam Ninh:150USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan, phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Chuong tirnh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trung bay tai Hoi cho: 24/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 25/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong Cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam(VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 26/03: Nam Ninh Ca ngay trang tri, dan dung gian hang. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu tham du Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03:Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi: 265USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. 2. Tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang Chuong trinh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang: 25/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 26/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam (VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu khai mac Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi:250USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. Ghi chu: Neu co dai bieu yeu cau di them khao sat tai Que Lam thi chuong trinh se phai them 2 ngay nua so voi cac chuong trinh tren, chi phi phat sinh them 100USD/Dai bieu. Thu tuc dang ky: 1. Doanh nghiep gui ban dang ky fax cung voi 50% tien dat coc bang tien mat hoac dien chuyen tien toi: Cong ty dich vu va thuong mai TSC -Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Tai khoan tien VND:0021000001059 Tai khoan tien USD:00211370021623 Ngan hang ngoai thuong Ha Noi (VIETCOMBANK HANOI) 2. So tien con lai thanh toan 10 ngay truoc ngay khoi hanh. Quyen loi cua cac don vi tham gia trung bay tai trien lam: - Tham gia vao cac Hoi thao, hoi nghi to chuc trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu trong cuon Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho bang tieng Trung, an pham nay se duoc phat mien phi cho khach tham quan Hoi cho va cac moi gioi khac. - Dam bao ve sinh chung trong khu hoi cho. - Ban ve an toan hang hoa trung bay ngoai gio mo cua cua hoi cho trien lam. - Dan dung va thao do gian hang trong truong hop thue gian hang tron goi. Cac dich vu nha to chuc ho tro cac don vi tham gia(co thu phi) - Van tai va tam nhap tai xuat hang trien lam. - In quang cao theo thiet ke rieng trong cuon Catalogue hoi cho. - To chuc cac hoi thao chuyen de, gioi thieu san pham va dich vu rieng. - Cung cap phien dich rieng theo yeu cau:20USD/buoi(4 tieng), 30USD/ngy(8 tieng), ngoai gio 10USD/tieng dong ho. - Thiet ke va dan dung cac gian hang dac biet, cho thue thiet ke gian gang. - Cung cap cac dich vu in an, cac san pham quang cao rieng. Ho tro cua Ban to chuc danh cho cac don vi: - Ban to chuc se ho tro 10% chi phi thue gian hang cho cac don vi cua Viet Nam, 15% phi thue gian hang cho doanh nghiep la hoi vien cua Cty Thang Loi - Hoi dong lien minh hop tac xa Viet Nam. Moi dang ky phai duoc thuc hien truoc ngay 17/02/2003. - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam se duoc mien thue hai quan Trung Quoc (ngoai ra mot so hang hoa dac biet) voi so luong khong han che nhung phai duoc su dong y cua Ban to chuc. - Doi voi cac doanh nghiep khong thue gian hang, Ban to chuc se bo tri mot phong trung bay chung mien phi Catalongue va mot so hang mau cua doanh nghiep trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Tat ca cac doanh nghiep Viet nam tham gia Hoi cho deu duoc mien phi thong tin co ban cua doanh nghiep trong vong 1 nam tren trang tieng Trung cua Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://ww.china-vn.net de nham tao them co hoi tiep tan lau dai voi thi truong TQ. - Mien phi mot quyen Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho cho moi donh nghiep Viet Nam co tham gia Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu mien phi doi tac tiem nang tai Trung Quoc khi doanh nghiep Viet Nam co yeu cau va dang ky truoc 15 ngay tro len. Nhung thong tin can biet khi tham gia Hoi cho: - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam deu phai chuyen toi Ha Noi truoc ngay 10/03/2003 de Ban to chuc nhan hang tai Ha Noi va tap trung lam thu tuc hai quan Trung Quoc, qua han tren, Ban to chuc se khong chiu trach nhiem ve thu tuc hai quan. (Luu y: cac doanh nghiep tu chiu chi phi van chuyen len cua khau, va tu lam cac thu tuc hai quan Viet Nam).Cac don vi cung cap cho BTC danh muc hang hoa(Packing List) trung bay trine lam truoc 28/02/2003 gom co: Ten don vi tham gia trien lam, ten hang , so luong, noi xuat xung, don gia, kich co,trong luong, hinh thuc dong goi, so luong kien, so luong hang can tro ve VN sau hoi cho. - Doi voi cac dai bieu tham gia khao sat Hoi cho (khong thue gian hang), de nghi dang ky va nop ho so, danh sach day du theo yeu cau cua Ban to chuc truoc ngay 28/02/2003. - Cac dai bieu VN co the nhap canh Trung Quoc bang ho chieu + visa (khach tu lo).Trong truong hop hop khong kip xin cap ho chieu hoac Visa thi co the nhap canh TQ bang giay thong hanh do Ban to chuc tap trung xin thu tuc tai Viet Nam va Trung Quoc. Tuy nhien thu tuc nay chi co duoc phep thong hanh trong tinh Quang Tay TQ, ma khong duoc di vuot qua dia phan tinh Quang Tay-TQ voi thoi gian co gia tri trong 8 ngay. Neu co nhu cau can sang cac tinh khac cua TQ trong chuyen di bang giay thong hanh thi phai bao truoc cho Ban to chuc de giup do thu tuc. - Cac dai bieu xuat nhap canh bang giay thong hanh nop cho BTC 04 anh mau 3X4 va 02 chung minh thu Phto it nhat 10 ngay truoc khi xuat canh. - Cac doanh nghiep muon duoc gioi thieu mien phi khach hang tiem nang TQ hoac dang tai thong tin tren Mang thong tin Trung -Viet www.china-vn.net , de nghi gui truoc 10 ngay cac thong tin co noi dung gom: ten doanh nghiep, dia chi thong tin, Tel,Fax,E-mail,Website, so luoc doanh nghiep, thong tin san pham, can mua va can ban, muc dich chuyen di… cho Ban to chuc bang tieng Viet hoac Trung (Khong qua 1000 tu). Moi chi tiet xin lien he: Hoac lien he truc tiep voi chung toi: + Ban to chuc Hoi cho: Dia chi:18 ngo Nam Nhat Ly, duong Tinh Ho, T.P Nam Ninh Tel:0086-771-2615157 Fax:0086-771-2630917 E-mail: xttm(a)china-vn.com Website: www.china-vn.net Nguoi lien he: Mr. Hai , Mr. Luc + Dai dien Ban to chuc tai Viet Nam: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Trung tam giao dich quoc te TSC Dia chi:33 - Ba Trieu - Hoan Kiem- Ha Noi- Viet Nam Tel:04.9360134 Fax:04.9360103 E-mail: vcciglobexpo(a)hn.vnn.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr:Hung Mobi:0913367082 Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Quang Tay- Trung Quoc Trung tam xuc tien thuong mai Trung - Viet Van phong dai dien tai Ha Noi DC: 204 Pho Duc Chinh-Ba Dinh-Ha Noi Tel: 04-9273335 Fax: 04-9273335 E-mail: kimlanhanoi(a)fpt.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr.Bach - Mobi: 0912118616 Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn

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Put filer's nic in promisc mode?
by Matt Miller 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

Does anyone know if you can put an F720 (Data ONTAP 6.2) filer's nic in promiscuous mode? matt -- Matt Miller IT Infrastructure Team Duke University - Fuqua School of Business

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Replaced Drive still shows red LED
by Jordan Share 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

I replaced a failed drive yesterday. However, the drive light still shows red, even though the filer thinks that the disk is there and is a spare. Is this a common problem? I am running OS 6.1R1, and the LCD is displaying the ops/sec as usual. Jordan

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budtool tape recovery without budtool
by Jeff Kennedy 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

I have an old design tape that was made with Budtool's ndmp option that I need to recover. We no longer have budtool but one of the selling points of BT was that you could recover your data without it. The tape was made by an ndmp dump direct to tape. Anyone know how to recover? I have attempted the following: mt -f rst0a rewind mt -f nrst0a fsf 1 mt -f nrst0a fsr 2 recover TfD nrst0a /vol/recovery Doing the above gets me a block issue: "block size should be 60 not 63". So I tried this (after positioning...): recover TfDb nrst0a /vol/recovery 60 It vascillates between returning "Bad Header" and something about a 4k block. I could really use some help on this one.....no BT manuals anymore either. Thanks. -- ===================== Jeff Kennedy Unix Administrator AMCC jlkennedy(a)amcc.com

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RE: cifs access on Windows GROUPS
by Ulrich Neumann 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

we use the "normal" w2k progs and never use the filerview to administer filers. then you can use local groups and gibe shares the permissions on groups ... we also give no special permissions on the shares administrators full, users change and setting the permissions on the filesystem ... also hyena ist able to deal with the filers in a w2k-domain ... Best Regards Ulrich Neumann -----Original Message----- From: stephane.bentebba(a)fps.fr [mailto:stephane.bentebba@fps.fr] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 16:47 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: cifs access on Windows GROUPS Hi all, in the Ontapp Doc and in the Filerview Doc, I can read that Windows Group are not supported in cifs access command. I.e. You can't restrict or grant access right for Group SID but only to User SID : cifs access <share> [-g] <user|group> <rights> cifs access MYSHARE MYDOM\MYGROUP "Full control" should be impossible if the MYDOM\MYGROUP is a Windows Group. Althought of all I read and was said, an Administer of mine was able to add ACL for Winbdows Groups with Filerview on several shares. He was able to verify that the restrictions were working fine (i.e.: anyone in this group is able to access files in this shares, anyonewhic his not part of this group have no access to those files). He was able to do so with Global Groups. So first question : is it normal ? Did Netapp forget to advertise about this new functionality ? Does Netapp support this function ? Is there a trick the costumer find without knowing it ? He was able to do so for global groups but not for local groups. In order to be able to deal with local groups, I advise him to use the "useradmin" command. Also to check the lclgroups.cfg file which is responsible for local groups (he would know where local groups can be recorded in order to save this SAM-like file). But : - useradmin can add users but not groups, can't it ? - normally User manager Windows tool should permit to create local users and groups but where the resultant file is located ? (in order to save it in case of disaster and not redo all the config) ? The Filer is in 6.1.2R1 in a WinNT/2K domain. Here is all, thank you much in advance.

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Question on CIFS and disk scrubbing?
by Art Hebert 25 Jun '02

25 Jun '02

Having never been able to to attend Netapp classes, bear with me if these are fairly simple. 1) CIFS was purchased but never actually used. It currently shows up when you type license. Will this in anyway affect the Netapp nfs performance? 2) Does disk scrubbing run automatically daily and if so is this changeable, by day, by time? 3) Can somebody give me the rundown on running wack? This is what I have off the net (somehow the this is how you do it part never got published). When to use WACK on a NetApp Filer From an email by Dave Hitz (12/1999) on the Toasters mailing list. The main difference between "wack" and fsck or scandisk is that you shouldn't need to run wack during normal operation. In particular, unlike UNIX and NT, you don't need to run "wack" after a system panic, or when you pull the plug without shutting the system down, or after a power failure. The WAFL filesystem uses a database technique called "shadow paging with NV-RAM log replay" to maintain a fully consistent state on disk even in the face of unexpected shutdowns. So when do you need to run wack? Suppose that you have a disk fail in RAID, and then when you try to reconstruct the data from the lost disk you discover that there is a bad sector on one of the other drives. Most of your file system data is just fine, but you've got a couple of blocks that can't be recovered. The RAID subsystem zeros both blocks, since that's the best that you can do, but now you need to run wack in order to fix things up, in case the zeroed blocks contained file system data like inodes, indirect blocks, or the free block map. And yes, I must confess that like any computer, NetApp systems do contain the occasional bug, so WAFL has a number of checks to make sure that the on-disk data looks reasonable, and if it finds a problem it will ask you to perform a wack. Our goal is for customers never to need to run wack, but the reality is that people sometimes do need to use it. this is how you do it. Thanks art hebert

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cifs access on Windows GROUPS
by stephane.bentebba＠fps.fr 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Hi all, in the Ontapp Doc and in the Filerview Doc, I can read that Windows Group are not supported in cifs access command. I.e. You can't restrict or grant access right for Group SID but only to User SID : cifs access <share> [-g] <user|group> <rights> cifs access MYSHARE MYDOM\MYGROUP "Full control" should be impossible if the MYDOM\MYGROUP is a Windows Group. Althought of all I read and was said, an Administer of mine was able to add ACL for Winbdows Groups with Filerview on several shares. He was able to verify that the restrictions were working fine (i.e.: anyone in this group is able to access files in this shares, anyonewhic his not part of this group have no access to those files). He was able to do so with Global Groups. So first question : is it normal ? Did Netapp forget to advertise about this new functionality ? Does Netapp support this function ? Is there a trick the costumer find without knowing it ? He was able to do so for global groups but not for local groups. In order to be able to deal with local groups, I advise him to use the "useradmin" command. Also to check the lclgroups.cfg file which is responsible for local groups (he would know where local groups can be recorded in order to save this SAM-like file). But : - useradmin can add users but not groups, can't it ? - normally User manager Windows tool should permit to create local users and groups but where the resultant file is located ? (in order to save it in case of disaster and not redo all the config) ? The Filer is in 6.1.2R1 in a WinNT/2K domain. Here is all, thank you much in advance.

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RE: quota and running CIFS
by Nail, Larry 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

6.2 does have sid caching enabled by default... Settings are: cifs.sidcache.enable on cifs.sidcache.lifetime 1440 -----Original Message----- From: Seth Moskowitz [mailto:sethmoskowitz@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 10:57 AM To: guerilla(a)concentric.net; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: quota and running CIFS Scott, You are seeing a performance hit because the Filer needs to do SID lookups to run the quota reports for CIFS. Unfortunately there is no way around this except to not run the quota reports as often (as you discovered) or schedule them to run off hours (if you have any). My understanding is that OnTap 6.2R2 does SID caching so once you get to that version of OnTap (assuming it does the cache the SID) you shouldn't see this as a problem any longer. >From: Scott Mikusko <guerilla(a)concentric.net> >Reply-To: Scott Mikusko <guerilla(a)concentric.net> >To: toasters(a)mathworks.com >Subject: quota and running CIFS >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:29:59 -0400 (EDT) > > >Comrades, > >I have a filer running NFS & CIFS with about 200Gb of data. We run >quota reports fairly often (used to be every 15 minutes but now every 4 >hours) to keep track of user account space. We've noticed that when >quota runs, the performance of the box takes a big hit. The CPU gets >pegged at 100% for up to 2 minutes, the NFS performance degrades such >that moving a large file (say 10MB) can take nearly a minute! > >We don't see this sort of thing on straight-NFS filers, only on our >F840 filer (running 6.1.R1) running both protocols. The mode running >is NFS (not mixed). Normally a quota run on an NFS filer with the same >amount of files/users is less than 30 seconds, if that. But this >NFS/CIFS box is taking AGES. > >The hit on the box is so strong that it's really affecting our serving >files to web users that have webpages hosted on the box. It's reached >a point where I think Netapp's CIFS and/or quota implementation is >seriously screwed. I might have to look at BlueArc or some other vendor >for running our CIFS-based apps, as this is just not cutting it. > >Anyone else notice this sort of thing on other boxes, be it F840s or >F760s? > > >-Scott _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: quota and running CIFS
by Seth Moskowitz 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

Scott, You are seeing a performance hit because the Filer needs to do SID lookups to run the quota reports for CIFS. Unfortunately there is no way around this except to not run the quota reports as often (as you discovered) or schedule them to run off hours (if you have any). My understanding is that OnTap 6.2R2 does SID caching so once you get to that version of OnTap (assuming it does the cache the SID) you shouldn't see this as a problem any longer. >From: Scott Mikusko <guerilla(a)concentric.net> >Reply-To: Scott Mikusko <guerilla(a)concentric.net> >To: toasters(a)mathworks.com >Subject: quota and running CIFS >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:29:59 -0400 (EDT) > > >Comrades, > >I have a filer running NFS & CIFS with about 200Gb of data. We run quota >reports fairly often (used to be every 15 minutes but now every 4 hours) >to keep track of user account space. We've noticed that when quota runs, >the performance of the box takes a big hit. The CPU gets pegged at 100% >for up to 2 minutes, the NFS performance degrades such that moving a large >file (say 10MB) can take nearly a minute! > >We don't see this sort of thing on straight-NFS filers, only on our F840 >filer (running 6.1.R1) running both protocols. The mode running is NFS >(not mixed). Normally a quota run on an NFS filer with the same amount of >files/users is less than 30 seconds, if that. But this NFS/CIFS box is >taking AGES. > >The hit on the box is so strong that it's really affecting our serving >files to web users that have webpages hosted on the box. It's reached a >point where I think Netapp's CIFS and/or quota implementation is >seriously screwed. I might have to look at BlueArc or some other vendor >for running our CIFS-based apps, as this is just not cutting it. > >Anyone else notice this sort of thing on other boxes, be it F840s or >F760s? > > >-Scott _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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quota and running CIFS
by Scott Mikusko 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

Comrades, I have a filer running NFS & CIFS with about 200Gb of data. We run quota reports fairly often (used to be every 15 minutes but now every 4 hours) to keep track of user account space. We've noticed that when quota runs, the performance of the box takes a big hit. The CPU gets pegged at 100% for up to 2 minutes, the NFS performance degrades such that moving a large file (say 10MB) can take nearly a minute! We don't see this sort of thing on straight-NFS filers, only on our F840 filer (running 6.1.R1) running both protocols. The mode running is NFS (not mixed). Normally a quota run on an NFS filer with the same amount of files/users is less than 30 seconds, if that. But this NFS/CIFS box is taking AGES. The hit on the box is so strong that it's really affecting our serving files to web users that have webpages hosted on the box. It's reached a point where I think Netapp's CIFS and/or quota implementation is seriously screwed. I might have to look at BlueArc or some other vendor for running our CIFS-based apps, as this is just not cutting it. Anyone else notice this sort of thing on other boxes, be it F840s or F760s? -Scott

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