toasters September 2001

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Upgrade to 6.1R1
by Uros Lampret 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

After upgrade to DOT 6.1R1 I've got a warning that I don't understand. After every reboot filer displays: Starting Press CTRL-C for special boot menu ................................................................................ ................................ Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT [isp_timeout:warning]: 0b.10(0xfffffc00012d73a0, 0x12): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT [isp_timeout:warning]: 0b.11(0xfffffc00012d7600, 0x12): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT [isp_timeout:warning]: 0b.12(0xfffffc00012d7860, 0x12): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT [isp_timeout:warning]: 0b.13(0xfffffc00012d7ac0, 0x12): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT [isp_timeout:warning]: 0b.14(0xfffffc00012d7d20, 0x12): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT [isp_timeout:warning]: 0b.15(0xfffffc00012d7f80, 0x12): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. NetApp Release 6.1R1: Fri Apr 20 03:08:22 PDT 2001 Copyright (c) 1992-2001 Network Appliance, Inc. Starting boot on Fri Sep 7 05:52:34 GMT 2001 Somebody eles saw this? Uros

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FW: Quantum ATL M1500 LTO Drives?
by Joe Luchtenberg 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

Got some info from ATL: - since you refer to multiple systems, I presume you're interested in an OSN Fibre Channel solution; the M1500 is not yet certified under that program, but ATL is pursuing it and we *may* likely see the M1500 with FC310 FC to SCSI bridge certified under NetApp's OSN program in the OCT/NOV timeframe. - if instead you are looking for a SCSI solution, then your issue is with the LTO drives; here's what ATL had to say there: <<snip>> NetApp now offers support in Data ONTAP for IBM LTO only. We expect HP support around November 1st. So until then we are dead in the water on M1500 with LTO for NetApp, though P Series libraries with IBM drives are okay. <<end snip>> Hope this helps. Joe Joe Luchtenberg Dataline, Inc. 757-858-0600 757-285-1223 (mobile) 757-858-0606 (fax) joe.luchtenberg(a)data-line.com www.data-line.com -----Original Message----- From: Joe Luchtenberg Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:08 AM To: Vicki Bilyeu (E-mail) Subject: FW: Quantum ATL M1500 LTO Drives? Email address indicates this guy is in Malaysia, maybe? Don't know if you have a channel partner who can help this guy, but perhaps you can forward to the appropriate Program Manager who can speak to the status of NetApp OSN certification for the M1500 (I'm only familiar with certified configs for P1K/2K/3K/6K). Hope all is well. Joe Joe Luchtenberg Dataline, Inc. 757-858-0600 757-285-1223 (mobile) 757-858-0606 (fax) joe.luchtenberg(a)data-line.com www.data-line.com -----Original Message----- From: NicholosC [mailto:NicholosC@maxis.net.my] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:25 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Quantum ATL M1500 LTO Drives? Check the NOW site and it is not listed as supported library. Currently looking into the M1500 LTO Drives for a few systems. Has anybody got any success in implementing this library for the filer? Nic

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How to know which qualified tape drive I can emulate?
by nick.mayrath＠webmd.net 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

How do I know which qualified tape drive I can emulate? I have a Sun Microsystems L280 Autoloader (6 slots, DLT7000). I'm running Ontap 5.3.6r2 and will be upgrading to 6.1r1 soon. Thanks in advance Nick Mayrath Network Administrator ExpressBill, Inc. 800-453-8439 ext. 216

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RE: CIFS terminate for WTS
by Nail, Larry 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

Yes, I used to use Hyena for that & other things, but it's too slow vs. some of the native W2K tools. -----Original Message----- From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:02 PM To: Nail, Larry Cc: 'Jeffrey Krueger'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: CIFS terminate for WTS or a tool like hyena will show you all the sessions open on a server and let you mark the ones you want to disconnect. "Nail, Larry" wrote: > > I have to agree with the CLI part of it... I abhor the mouse. However > for mouse jockies, an alternative is: > > An alternative is to use the Computer Management MMC for Windows 2000 > (right click my computer, manage, action, connect to another computer, > expand shared folders, Sessions) to view the sessions. Limited to > screen size if you hide the left pane. You can also sort by column. > > I customized an MMC to include the Shared Folders & Local Users and > Groups snap-ins for quick access. > > Larry > ______________________________________ > Lawrence D. Nail > Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer > NT Infrastructure and Strategy > SC Design Systems > Texas Instruments Incorporated > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:54 PM > To: Jeffrey Krueger > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: CIFS terminate for WTS > > Thanks for all the responses! For the lists benefit, the conclusion > was that this has to be done through the Server Manager but that an > ONTAP RFE for a "cifs terminate" style command exists. > > Since a few folks asked "If it works, why not just use Server > Manager?" I'll give a public response. While Server Manager works, it > is not very practical when you have a good number of connections. For > instance, on the machine in question, there were 2,448 sessions open > when I was trying to kill a few. I could easily pick them out via the > command line "rsh filer cifs sessions" and some creative regex's. In > server manager, I have a four-line view of this list. Just finding > the connections in question was a chore of scrolling and manually > reading each line. It was a pain. > > I'm not dogging GUI's - they're great for a number of things. This is > one task they are not well suited for. Personally, I prefer grep to > do my pattern matching for me since it is abundantly more accurate and > lightning fast in comparison to me manually reading each line. > > So, a CLI alternative would be great! =) > > -- Jeff > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 11:52:38AM -0700, Jeffrey Krueger wrote: > > Does anyone know how to terminate one connection of a multiplexed > > CIFS session from an NT workstation (such as a WTS server)? That > > is, many users are logged into a WTS server, but I only want to > > terminate one. > > > > This can be done "fairly easily" from the NT Server Manager console; > > however, I'm looking for a "rsh filer cifs terminate ..." varient. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > -- Jeff > > > > -- regards

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RE: CIFS terminate for WTS
by Nail, Larry 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

I have to agree with the CLI part of it... I abhor the mouse. However for mouse jockies, an alternative is: An alternative is to use the Computer Management MMC for Windows 2000 (right click my computer, manage, action, connect to another computer, expand shared folders, Sessions) to view the sessions. Limited to screen size if you hide the left pane. You can also sort by column. I customized an MMC to include the Shared Folders & Local Users and Groups snap-ins for quick access. Larry ______________________________________ Lawrence D. Nail Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer NT Infrastructure and Strategy SC Design Systems Texas Instruments Incorporated -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:54 PM To: Jeffrey Krueger Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: CIFS terminate for WTS Thanks for all the responses! For the lists benefit, the conclusion was that this has to be done through the Server Manager but that an ONTAP RFE for a "cifs terminate" style command exists. Since a few folks asked "If it works, why not just use Server Manager?" I'll give a public response. While Server Manager works, it is not very practical when you have a good number of connections. For instance, on the machine in question, there were 2,448 sessions open when I was trying to kill a few. I could easily pick them out via the command line "rsh filer cifs sessions" and some creative regex's. In server manager, I have a four-line view of this list. Just finding the connections in question was a chore of scrolling and manually reading each line. It was a pain. I'm not dogging GUI's - they're great for a number of things. This is one task they are not well suited for. Personally, I prefer grep to do my pattern matching for me since it is abundantly more accurate and lightning fast in comparison to me manually reading each line. So, a CLI alternative would be great! =) -- Jeff On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 11:52:38AM -0700, Jeffrey Krueger wrote: > Does anyone know how to terminate one connection of a multiplexed CIFS > session from an NT workstation (such as a WTS server)? That is, many > users are logged into a WTS server, but I only want to terminate one. > > This can be done "fairly easily" from the NT Server Manager console; > however, I'm looking for a "rsh filer cifs terminate ..." varient. > > Any ideas? > > -- Jeff > >

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CIFS terminate for WTS
by Jeffrey Krueger 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

Does anyone know how to terminate one connection of a multiplexed CIFS session from an NT workstation (such as a WTS server)? That is, many users are logged into a WTS server, but I only want to terminate one. This can be done "fairly easily" from the NT Server Manager console; however, I'm looking for a "rsh filer cifs terminate ..." varient. Any ideas? -- Jeff

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console connexion to F740 kibbled
by Lance R Bailey 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

we have a new F740 that i cannot use on the console of my lightwave CS800 terminal server. i am using the same CS800 to front a pair of F720 without problems but the F740 seems to put out text with the high bit set - completely unreadable. the F720's are fine. CS800 _| | |_ | | | F720 F720 F740 the connexion from the filers to the cs800 is a cat5 cable that plugs into the back of the CS800, and then into an RJ-db9 adapter which in turn plugs into the back of a filer. if i unplug the adapter from the working 720 and plug it into the 740, then i get gibberish on that port. if i unplug the adapter from the gibberish 740 and plug it into the 720, suddenly that connexion works. ie, if i do this: CS800 _| \/ | /\ F720 F720 F740 the problem stays with the 740. we swapped out the motherboard - no good. we swapped out the entire head - no good. we changed cables, adapters - no good. we changed ports on the CS800 - no good. both ports on the CS800 are 9600 8N1. we attached a laptop directly to the F740 with a filer supplied cable and that worked. for some reason, it seems that the CS800 and the F740 (but not the F720) have a high order bit problem. has anyone seen this? even better, has anyone seen a solution to this? -- email: lance_bailey(a)pmc-sierra.com box: Lance R. Bailey, unix Administrator vox: +1 604 415 6646 PMC-Sierra, Inc fax: +1 604 415 6151 105-8555 Baxter Place http://www.lydia.org/~zaphod Burnaby BC, V5A 4V7 Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time -- Steven Wright

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Permissions
by Jennifer Armenta 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

Having issues with permissions. When trying to mount to 2 different SUN servers (Unix mode /vol/vol2/backup) It doesn't appear the id's are being picked up correctly any advice?

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RE: Unexplainable unresponsiveness of F820
by Ehrhart, Rick 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

The problem is fixed in 6.1.1 with bug 40350 which also covers disconnecting telnet while there is pending output. - Rick - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rick Ehrhart Network Appliance "Give me bandwidth or give me death" > -----Original Message----- > From: Kerry Schwab [mailto:Kerry.Schwab@wnco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:33 PM > To: mcope(a)isisph.com > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: Unexplainable unresponsiveness of F820 > > > When I have run into the bug, it didn't seem to have anything > to do with how busy the filer was. > > It *did* seem to be related to pending output on the telnet > connection. So, if you connected, ran a command, and > then closed the telnet connection while the filer was still > sending results, the filer would freeze. > > Another scenario is when "console log" messages randomly > stream from the telnet conneciton. Closing the connection > while the console logs message is being written triggers it also. > > It interesting that you mentioned "Big Brother", because I never > hit the bug while actually typing interactively via telnet. > It was always > via some automated telnet connection ( Expect, Perl, etc). I guess > a human typing always tends to wait before sending the <ctrl-D>, while > the scripted connections aren't anticipating "extra output". > > == > Kerry > > > >>> <mcope(a)isisph.com> 09/05/01 04:46PM >>> > > > Kerry, > > Thanks for the info. I use Big Brother (bb4.com) to monitor > the Filers. One of > the things it does every 5 minutes is open and close a telnet > session to test > telnet. It's a pretty ugly method because it just kills the > telnet session as > opposed to closing it. The problems on the previous Filer > only manifested when > it was getting hammered. I've been using Big Brother for a > number of months now > and haven't had any problems keeping telnet sessions open to > a Filer. However, > I can imagine where this could be a problem if the Filer is > really busy and then > one of these ugly telnet checks occurred and pushed it over the edge. > > Thanks again, > > Michael > > On 9/5/2001 2:16:07 PM, "Kerry Schwab" <Kerry.Schwab(a)wnco.com> wrote: > > I've run into a bug with the telnetd daemon on the F820. > > Closing a telnet session to the filer while it has pending > > output sometimes causes the whole filer to "hang". > > > > This is occuring on 6.0.1R3. > > > > I did find some related bugs in the knowledge base, > > but I've resorted to not using the telnet interface for now. > > > > == > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > > >>> <mcope(a)isisph.com> 09/05/01 10:46AM >>> > > > > > > I've recently moved files from a F740 onto a new F820. > This happened > > on Monday > > and on Tuesday morning the F820 suddenly stopped serving data. It > > became so > > unresponsive that I was unable to even get in thru the console. I > > got prompted > > for a password but it never got to a command line prompt. The Filer > > didn't > > appear to be excessively busy beforehand and the network connection > > (Gigabit) > > still appeared to be fine. Basically, the Filer appeared fine > > externally and > > the LCD panel showed that there were 0 ops a second. The only way I > > could get > > the Filer "running" again was to cycle power. > > > > The Filer has been fine since then. There were no messages in the > > syslog and it > > didn't dump a core file (I know now how to force it to dump > a core for > > diagnosis), so NetApp tech support hasn't been able to provide much > > assistance > > or explanation. > > > > I've seen this same behavior twice on the the F740 in the last 2 > > months but that > > had been diagnosed as a faulty Fibre Channel controller seizing up > > when the > > workload got too high. Other than the actual data files, the only > > thing these > > two Filers have in common is Data ONTAP 6.1R1. I'm running 6.1R1 on > > two other > > Filers and have had no problems. It just seems very coincidental > > that I didn't > > experience this on the F740 until after I installed this version of > > ONTAP. > > > > Anyone else seen this behavior before or noticed any irregularities > > with 6.1R1 > > (I'm not running in a cluster so the latest updates/bug fixes don't > > appear > > helpful) > > > > Thanx, > > > > > > Michael Cope > > UNIX/Linux Systems Administrator > > Isis Pharmaceuticals > > mcope(a)isisph.com > > > > UNIX is very user friendly... > > it's just highly selective about who it makes friends WITH! > > > > > > > > >

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RE: Looking for Macintosh users
by Maglinger, Paul 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

Thanks to all who responded. Our Macs are currently running system 9.X, and they are hesitant to upgrade to 10.X until it's been out for awhile and the bugs have been worked out. It looks like we're going to lean toward DAVE as it looks as if that will integrate them more fully into our existing network. Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com To: "'NetApps list server'" <toasters(a)mathworks.com> cc: (bcc: Michael Cope/ISIS) Subject: Looking for Macintosh users We're looking to let our Art Department (Macintosh users) have a wee bit o' space on our 740. I'm looking at Dave software, but would appreciate any input from other administrators who might have some insight here. Thanks! Paul Maglinger, A+, CET, CA, MCSE Systems Administrator Shoe Carnival, Inc. - att1.htm

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