toasters May 2001

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RE: interface fun
by Fox, Adam 23 May '01

23 May '01

> > Since I don't have the extra interfaces to play with, does > anyone know if > a VIF made up of vlan'able interfaces can also be vlaned? > Rolling all of > our interfaces into a VIF then VLAN'ing that would be beautiful, but I > don't want to go to the trouble having someone persue it if its not > currently feasible. This is in fact true. You can create a big vif and then use vlan tagging to get up to 4 vlans per vif. This requires at least ONTAP 6.1. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com

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RE: NetApp F720 -- Password recovery
by Fox, Adam 23 May '01

23 May '01

On a pre-6.0 system, you halt to the ok prompt, then do the following: ok setenv floppy-boot? true ok boot Then part way up it will ask floppy booy? Type yes, then you get to the 1-5 menu. 3 is password recovery. Just remember to unsetenv that variable when you are done. Otherwise everytime you reboot, it will stop and ask if you want to floppy boot. This could be a real pain down the line. If you are on a 6.x or later, you can hit CTRL-C at a sepcified time (it will tell you) in the boot process and it will go there automagically. Of course, we ALWAYS recommend having working boot floppies around just in case. It's a good idea for emergencies. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Rafi Khardalian [mailto:toasters@pennyweb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:33 PM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: NetApp F720 -- Password recovery > > > Anyone know how to reset the password and configuration on an > F720, without > physically having the boot disks? In the past, I called > NetApp support with > the same problem, at which point I was given instructions on > how to emulate > a floppy boot. Unfortunately I misplaced this valuable piece of > information. The only part I recall is setting a variable at > the "ok"/bios > prompt named something like ?floppy-boot?. > > Help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > Rafi Khardalian > Senior System Administrator > Pennyweb, Inc. >

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interface fun
by kevin graham 23 May '01

23 May '01

It seems that .1Q isn't supported on the 760's onboard 100mbit interface and that only the "FastEnet-10/100 Ethernet Controller" will do it (besides the gige ints). Is this the onboard for the 840, or is it orderable as a separate part#? Since I don't have the extra interfaces to play with, does anyone know if a VIF made up of vlan'able interfaces can also be vlaned? Rolling all of our interfaces into a VIF then VLAN'ing that would be beautiful, but I don't want to go to the trouble having someone persue it if its not currently feasible. Also, does anyone know the difference in the GigE II and GigE III? I know the I was an Alteon, the II is an Intel, how about the III? I was wondering about jumbo framing in a VIF, and noticed the SAG said jumbo frames were available on a trunked GbE II -- should this reead Gb III instead? since the GbE II only does 1500 in standalone, why would the the limitation go away in a vif? Docs also state that mixed MTU's are unsupported. While this makes sense for a multimode trunk, it wouldn't seem to be necessary for a singlemode (ie, the vif adopts the mtu of the active interface). Does Ontap enfore the lowest mtu of all interfaces irregardless of trunk mode? Thanks.. ..kg..

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test post ignore
by Hoot Judkins 23 May '01

23 May '01

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740 ndmp backups
by Leonard, Roger 23 May '01

23 May '01

I am backing up a 740 with veritas using the "3 way ndmp" config. i.e. the 740 is backing up via ndmp to an 840 with a dlt8000 directly attached to it. the network is ATM LANE with combo of 1.5mbps and 622mbps. my performance is real bad, like 1 mb/s for a backup. has anyone had any experience with this type of scenario and have any suggestions?? i am going to try the NFS type backup as an experiment but would like to get ndmp to work properly.

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RE: BlueARC SI7500 NAS
by Davis, John 23 May '01

23 May '01

Can you please,sir, educate us all on how BlueARC has suceeded in making their disks spin faster than all of the other storage companies? Assuming most people can't afford 3 TBs of memory for their storage systems just how do they get around the mechanical latenices and rotational latencies of a rotating media device(which btw, is what WAFL is good at doing)? -----Original Message----- From: Dilbert Dickweed [mailto:blome840@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:02 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: BlueARC SI7500 NAS Obviously nobody here has really touched one from the statements made. I have and have done direct compare between IP4700 (EMC) and 840 as well as the BlueArc box and it is very refreshing. It is true that some of the feature set is not there yet but they do have NDMP and unlike Netcrap, back-ups online don't crash the server. I have done my own IOmeter tests with various settings using some FreeBSD clients and this thing blows away 840 and IP4700. IP4700 is a joke anyway. Those who are in doubt (as I was) need to check these guys out because they are really onto something huge here. We are talking about eliminating the bottlenecks that exist in ALL server architecture today and reaching the next level of speed. I am not talking out-my-ass here...check 'em out! See for yourslef and don't listen to the dinks from Netcrap or Evil Machine Corporation EMC! If you do manage to get a beta unit as some have, make sure you get the failover cluster because this works much better than anything I have seen yet.... Wish they had snapshot though... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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RE: BlueARC SI7500 NAS
by Honeycutt, Michael 23 May '01

23 May '01

Dilbert, thanks. You made me realize that TrendMicro E-manager filter isnt working right on my exchange server. Kudos. -----Original Message----- From: David Carmean [mailto:dlc@halibut.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:15 PM To: Dilbert Dickweed Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: BlueARC SI7500 NAS Well, your choice of username/email address and anonymity certainly make /me/ take you more seriously than if I knew who you were, your history, and your relationship with all three companies. ( Yes, I work for Netapp, but I'm just a sysadmin for the engineering labs and not a heavy direct user. Standard disclaimers of unofficial opinions apply, as implied by using my personal email address. ) On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:01:36PM -0000, Dilbert Dickweed wrote: > Obviously nobody here has really touched one from the statements made. I > have and have done direct compare between IP4700 (EMC) and 840 as well as > the BlueArc box and it is very refreshing. > It is true that some of the feature set is not there yet but they do have > NDMP and unlike Netcrap, back-ups online don't crash the server. > I have done my own IOmeter tests with various settings using some FreeBSD > clients and this thing blows away 840 and IP4700. IP4700 is a joke anyway. > Those who are in doubt (as I was) need to check these guys out because they > are really onto something huge here. We are talking about eliminating the > bottlenecks that exist in ALL server architecture today and reaching the > next level of speed. I am not talking out-my-ass here...check 'em out! See > for yourslef and don't listen to the dinks from Netcrap or Evil Machine > Corporation EMC! > If you do manage to get a beta unit as some have, make sure you get the > failover cluster because this works much better than anything I have seen > yet.... > > Wish they had snapshot though...

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RE: BlueARC SI7500 NAS
by Dilbert Dickweed 22 May '01

22 May '01

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RE: 740 ndmp backups
by Traitel, Eyal 22 May '01

22 May '01

Roger, 1. What are your ontap versions on filers ? 2. Have you tested first local dump from 840 to local tape ? What's the speed there ? Eyal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, LCA, NetApp CA Network Appliance BV Hoofddorp, The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Leonard, Roger [mailto:Roger.Leonard@marconi.com] Sent: Tue, May 22, 2001 19:21 To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: 740 ndmp backups I am backing up a 740 with veritas using the "3 way ndmp" config. i.e. the 740 is backing up via ndmp to an 840 with a dlt8000 directly attached to it. the network is ATM LANE with combo of 1.5mbps and 622mbps. my performance is real bad, like 1 mb/s for a backup. has anyone had any experience with this type of scenario and have any suggestions?? i am going to try the NFS type backup as an experiment but would like to get ndmp to work properly.

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Bluearc
by ethancaftihs＠netscape.net 22 May '01

22 May '01

Dilbert, you are too funny and all you morons jumping on the band-wagon Bluearc customers are all under NDA which means Non Disclosure Agreement. It was very amusing for me to see all the Netapp employee's responses to D's mail...please, more:> __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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