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RE: getting dump messages into messages file
by Itzik Meirson D.Sc. 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

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RE: LTO support?
by Collie, Michael 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

>From your mail, some library vendors are apparently advance in having LTO solutions. We will raise this, as a question to some of the first tier library vendors that we are partnering with that doesn't yet have LTO solutions. Thanks for the information. Michael. -----Original Message----- From: Moshe Linzer [mailto:Moshe.Linzer@nsc.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 11:40 PM To: Steve Vawter Cc: Michael.Collie(a)netapp.com; ryanb(a)enteract.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: LTO support? IBM is offering 2 library models with up to 6 Ultrium drives. Qualstar also has a few models available with LTO. Moshe Steve Vawter wrote: > I already have 1 vendor willing to admit that they have a library > that can either be pure LTO or else 1/2 LTO, 1/2 SDLT (heding their > bets). I believe that they are actually already taking orders and > supposedly shipping these units. > > In no way should you take this as a testimonial, but here is the info: > Overland Data > www.overlanddata.com > > Steve Vawter voice: 408-490-5310 fax: 408-490-8615 > Staff UNIX Systems Administrator Steve.Vawter(a)C-Cube.COM > > --> > --> From Michael.Collie(a)netapp.com Mon Mar 12 15:06:31 2001 > --> From: "Collie, Michael" <Michael.Collie(a)netapp.com> > --> To: Moshe Linzer <Moshe.Linzer(a)nsc.com> > --> Cc: "'ryanb'" <ryanb(a)enteract.com>, toasters(a)mathworks.com > --> Subject: RE: LTO support? > --> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) > --> > --> Moshe, > --> > --> The LTO technology promises performance of up to 30Mb/s with 2:1 > --> compression. This performance far exceeds DLTs, SDLT, ATI-2 and 9840s. The > --> form factor for LTO (Ultrium) is different for today's tape drives. > --> > --> It may be some time before library vendors integrate the LTO technology into > --> their products. NetApp support for LTO is slated for 4th quarter of 2001. > --> > --> > --> ---Original Message----- > --> From: ryanb [mailto:ryanb@enteract.com] > --> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 12:58 PM > --> To: Moshe Linzer > --> Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > --> Subject: Re: LTO support? > --> > --> On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 09:17:57PM +0200, Moshe Linzer wrote: > --> > Does anyone know when LTO will be supported on the filer? I have two > --> > 760's, and we are shopping around for a backup library. I am hesitant > --> > to go with LTO at this point, but management likes the numbers. Can > --> > anyone share experience or opinions on LTO drives or libraries? > --> > --> Most LTO equipment is identical to DLT equipment, only with a different > --> tape drive. In this respect, the LTO drives will perform identically, or > --> so I'd like to think. ;) Please let me know if I'm wrong here. > --> > --> - ryan > --> -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Moshe Linzer | On the Internet, Unix Systems Manager | National Semiconductor, Israel | nobody knows you're a moron. Phone: 972-9-970-2247 | Fax: 972-9-970-2001 | - Network Magazine Email: moshel(a)nsc.com | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -

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non-LVD Differential SCSI card for F7xx
by Rob Windsor 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

We've been told buy our sales rep that NetApp doesn't sell non-LVD PCI Differential-SCSI cards. Is this true? If so, it is *really* going to cramp our style. :P Rob++ ---------------------------------------- Rob Windsor E-Mail - mailto:rob_windsor@adc.com Senior Unix Systems Administrator Voice - phone:972-680-6919 Computer Services Fax - phone:972-680-0370 Broadband Access and Transport Group __o ADC Telecommunications _`\<,_ Richardson, TX 75082 (_)/ (_)

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RE: Tape autoloader with F760
by Cormier, Darleen 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

There is no command to rescan the SCSI bus, so yes, you will have to reboot the filer. Please be sure that the drives in the library are supported in the version of DataONTAP you are using. -----Original Message----- From: netapp-list [mailto:netapp-list@tiscali.be] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:37 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Tape autoloader with F760 Hi all, I would like to use a Hexabyte 17D autoloader on F760 Cluster, but I don't know how to make it detected by the filer. Is there a command to rescan the SCSI bus or does I've to reboot the filer ? Thanks.

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Tape autoloader with F760
by netapp-list 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Hi all, I would like to use a Hexabyte 17D autoloader on F760 Cluster, but I don't know how to make it detected by the filer. Is there a command to rescan the SCSI bus or does I've to reboot the filer ? Thanks.

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NFS version 4
by Chris Thompson 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

Now that NFS version 4 has got as far as a complete specification in an RFC (RFC 3010, December 2000), would it be too much like tweaking the Devil's tail to inquire about NetApp's plans with respect to it? I can't find anything on NOW, but perhaps I shouldn't expect to... Of course, we are probably still years away from usable client implementations. Chris Thompson University of Cambridge Computing Service, Email: cet1(a)ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, Phone: +44 1223 334715 United Kingdom.

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RE: Multiple Oracle DBs on a filer
by George Kahler 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

I would like to express my thanks to all of the people that have responded to my Oracle query and have showed me the way ... :-) I was not aware of the Oracle SID which makes things much more easier to implement. As many of you mentioned it looks like I only need one oracle account on each server I want Oracle to run on and then 'share' this account amongst all of the database instances setting the proper environment based on the SID. Many thanks, George

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Legato/NetApp/NDMP/restore woes
by jlbreyfo＠collins.rockwell.com 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

Toasters, I'm new to the group and don't know about archives and such. Please excuse if this is an old question. Is anybody backing up using Legato 6.0.1 patch 1 (approx. 300GB vols) and ndmp. I have sporadic problems backing up, actually finishing the index - backup works fine; and also have problems restoring files, i.e. I have to relocate a selected file with a path like: filername::/vol/user1/username/restored/. Seems a bit hokey to me and I get no good info from Legato. I would love to discuss my problems and your solutions. Thanks in advance John Breyfogle Unix Admin Rockwell-Collins jlbreyfo(a)collins.rockwell.com

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RE: F740 with F760 spare
by Clawson, Simon 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

I am told that the footprint is different. This stops resourceful people buying a 760 spares kit and upgrading thier cheaper 740. But I am not sure about any of the other parts. I had a Unisys engineer here once who fitted 700 series Eth. Adpators to a 500..it did'nt work, but the machine did'nt blow up either ;-) Simon > -----Original Message----- > From: max chan [mailto:maxchan0@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday March 2001 03:34 > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: F740 with F760 spare > > > Did anyone try to put F760 spare in F740? > > Max > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >

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RE: LTO support?
by Joe Luchtenberg 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

I think what Ryan was referring to was much more superficial than you are describing. And I've heard the same thing -- i.e. LTO2 and DLT drives share the same form factor, drive cages, cabling/ports, media form factor, etc. All in pointed contrast to AIT2. Although not as significant as MTBF or product maturity, these are nonetheless not trivial issues. Joe Joe Luchtenberg Dataline, Inc. New number and email, please update: 757.858.0600 858.0606 fax joe.luchtenberg(a)data-line.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stringer, Douglas [SMTP:Douglas.Stringer@netapp.com] > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:27 PM > To: 'ryanb'; Moshe Linzer > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: LTO support? > > Don't let the LTO manufactures hear you say that. > With different driver support, media, ISV certification requirements and > specifications that are anything but similar to DLT, the only common item > these formats share is that they are 'linear' tape formats. > > NetApp will be supporting LTO in the late summer/early fall timeframe. > > Regards, > Doug Stringer > > -----Original Message----- > From: ryanb [mailto:ryanb@enteract.com] > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 12:58 PM > To: Moshe Linzer > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: LTO support? > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 09:17:57PM +0200, Moshe Linzer wrote: > > Does anyone know when LTO will be supported on the filer? I have two > > 760's, and we are shopping around for a backup library. I am hesitant > > to go with LTO at this point, but management likes the numbers. Can > > anyone share experience or opinions on LTO drives or libraries? > > Most LTO equipment is identical to DLT equipment, only with a different > tape drive. In this respect, the LTO drives will perform identically, or > so I'd like to think. ;) Please let me know if I'm wrong here. > > - ryan

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