toasters February 2001

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Used equipment
by Knight, Jason 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Does anyone who has purchased used Network Appliance equipment from 3rd parties have any suggestions on who I can call to ask about a few items I would like to purchase? Thanks in advance, Jason Knight

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RE: ndmp and legato
by Traitel, Eyal 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

FYI, there is already an RFE for it - Bug 13327. As Tim described, you can push us by opening a case, refering to the burt, or keep track on this bug using the Bug Notifying tool in NOW... Hope it helps, a little... Eyal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eyal Traitel - Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, NACA Network Appliance BV Holland Office Center Kruisweg 799b 2132 NG, Hoofddorp The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 Email: eyal(a)netapp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Timothy A. McCarthy [mailto:tmac@netapp.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:26 AM To: neil lehrer Cc: toasters; John Ederma Subject: Re: ndmp and legato No, it is not available right now. I would suggest pushing support if you really need it. --tmac neil lehrer wrote: > hey tim, > > that's what we thought. i used useradmin to set up ndmpuser as an acct. this > should work ok also - accts set up with useradmin are root equiv right? > > "Timothy A. McCarthy" wrote: > > > > That would be "root" and whatever the "root" password > > is on your filer. > > > > --tmac > > > > neil lehrer wrote: > > > > > hi, > > > > > > we are going to hook a spectralogic treefrog to our f760 and try using legato > > > 6.01[we already own it, so no point recommending something else] to do ndmp > > > backups. > > > > > > the legato doc refers to an ndmp userid and password. we don't know what that > > > is, does anyone out there know? > > > > > > thanks. > > > -- > > -- > > regards -- ******All New Numbers!!!****** ************* ************* Timothy A. McCarthy --> System Engineer, Eastern Region Network Appliance http://www.netapp.com 240-268-2034 Office \ / Page Me at: 240-268-2001 Fax \/ 888-971-4468

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ndmp and legato
by neil lehrer 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

hi, we are going to hook a spectralogic treefrog to our f760 and try using legato 6.01[we already own it, so no point recommending something else] to do ndmp backups. the legato doc refers to an ndmp userid and password. we don't know what that is, does anyone out there know? thanks. --

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RE: NDMP to legato
by Myren, Ben 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Hi all, I have made Legato work sharing a library between a filer and a Solaris server. When you add the jukebox via jbconfig you will configure some of the tape drives as NDMP devices. Ben -----Original Message----- From: Marion Hakanson [mailto:hakanson@cse.ogi.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:49 PM To: Cormier, Darleen Cc: 'Peter D. Gray'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: NDMP to legato > Hi Peter, Legato 6.0.1 with Patch 1 is NDMP compliant. That package allows > backups to a library attached to a filer. To backup a filer to a library > attached to a SUN server, you must also add their Networker SnapImage > module. The info can be found on Legato's web site at > www.legato.com/support/documentation/compatibility What about "library sharing" between a Sun/Solaris backup server and a NetApp filer? By this I mean our situation: BudTool backup server on the Sun, which controls the library and 3 tape drives, with a 4th tape drive attached via SCSI to the filer. I haven't so far found the answer in the above compatibility guide(s). Thanks and regards, -- Marion Hakanson <hakanson(a)cse.ogi.edu> CSE Computing Facilities

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RE: NDMP to legato
by Cormier, Darleen 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Hi Marion, You have a couple of ways to go. If you have SnapImage, you can backup any client that Legato Networker supports, including the filers, by having the library attached to the Sun. If you don't have SnapImage, you can do the same thing you are doing now with Budtool, break up the library bus, by having the robotics and some drives directly attached to the Sun, and one or more tape drives attached directly to the filer. Then you send the filer jobs to those drives, and everything else to the drives on the Sun. Cheers. -----Original Message----- From: Marion Hakanson [mailto:hakanson@cse.ogi.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:49 PM To: Cormier, Darleen Cc: 'Peter D. Gray'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: NDMP to legato > Hi Peter, Legato 6.0.1 with Patch 1 is NDMP compliant. That package allows > backups to a library attached to a filer. To backup a filer to a library > attached to a SUN server, you must also add their Networker SnapImage > module. The info can be found on Legato's web site at > www.legato.com/support/documentation/compatibility What about "library sharing" between a Sun/Solaris backup server and a NetApp filer? By this I mean our situation: BudTool backup server on the Sun, which controls the library and 3 tape drives, with a 4th tape drive attached via SCSI to the filer. I haven't so far found the answer in the above compatibility guide(s). Thanks and regards, -- Marion Hakanson <hakanson(a)cse.ogi.edu> CSE Computing Facilities

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RE: NDMP to legato
by Cormier, Darleen 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Hi Peter, Legato 6.0.1 with Patch 1 is NDMP compliant. That package allows backups to a library attached to a filer. To backup a filer to a library attached to a SUN server, you must also add their Networker SnapImage module. The info can be found on Legato's web site at www.legato.com/support/documentation/compatibility -----Original Message----- From: Peter D. Gray [mailto:pdg@uow.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:11 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NDMP to legato Has anybody set up backups to an autochanger controlled by legato networker using NDMP. The legato docs are very vague, and talk about installing a product to make the tape devices in the autochanger NDMP devices, but I cannot even find that product. What I want is for the filer to run dump, with the data ending up on the tape silo which is connected to a SUN running legato networker with legato knowing the tape contents etc. Am I asking too much? Regards, pdg PS At the moment I am backing up to networker via NFS.

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RE: vol copy from 5.3.6R2 to 6.0.1R1
by Moore, Duncan 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

When the revert process on the destination filer completes you should be able to repeat the vol copy operation with no problems. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Brian L. Brush [mailto:brian@paradyne.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:22 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: vol copy from 5.3.6R2 to 6.0.1R1 I want to vol copy from an F230 running ONTAP 5.3.6R2 to an F760 running 6.0.1R1, but I encounter the following error: Filesystem version mismatch for destination volume vol1, reverting the version and aborting transfer. A console message will be displayed when this revert is complete. I can't upgrade the 230 to 6.0, and it's impractical for me to revert to 5.x on the 760. Is there any way for me to vol copy directly from the 230 to the 760? --Brian L. Brush Senior Systems Administrator Paradyne Corporation

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RE: vol copy from 5.3.6R2 to 6.0.1R1
by Fox, Adam 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

You can still do the transfer. It just has to revert the target (F760) to the 5.3 filesystems first. After that revert is complete, you can do the vol copy. Then when all the 5.3 snapshots are gone, the volume will automatically upgrade the volume back to 6.0. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian L. Brush [mailto:brian@paradyne.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:22 PM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: vol copy from 5.3.6R2 to 6.0.1R1 > > > > I want to vol copy from an F230 running ONTAP 5.3.6R2 to an > F760 running > 6.0.1R1, but I encounter the following error: > > Filesystem version mismatch for destination volume vol1, reverting the > version and aborting transfer. A console message will be > displayed when > this revert is complete. > > I can't upgrade the 230 to 6.0, and it's impractical for me > to revert to > 5.x on the 760. Is there any way for me to vol copy directly from the > 230 to the 760? > > --Brian L. Brush > Senior Systems Administrator > Paradyne Corporation >

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FW: F85 series
by Gregg Anderson 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

My local NetApp sales rep was at my office this morning and from what I understand, there is no upgrade path for this product. It is intended to be an entry level filer w/limited growth (648gb max storage). -Gregg Anderson -----Original Message----- From: Jordan Share [mailto:iso9@phantasticant.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:12 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: F85 series So, is there an upgrade path for this box? We (my work) are an ASP, and we are looking at using a NetApp for our colocation cage. Right now, we are pretty much going back and forth between the F720 and the F760. We really only need the 720 for the near future, but if the "upgrade" to the 760 turns out to be more like a replacement of the 720 (i.e. we get very little back from trading it in), then we might go that route. But this F85 piques my interest. Roughly, what is its price point, and can the head be swapped out when it is time to upgrade? I would guess (after a brief survey of the website) that there isn't an intended upgrade path from this model. Thanks, Jordan ----- Original Message ----- From: "White, Lance" <Lance.White(a)netapp.com> To: "'Clawson, Simon'" <simon_clawson(a)mentorg.com>; <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:16 AM Subject: RE: F85 series > No, it uses FW Ultra SCSI-3 disks, not FC. Yes, NDMP backup is supported. > Limitations? Well, as it's positioned to be the NEW entry level Netapp (at > 3300 NFS ops/sec, it actually about 30% faster than the old low end F720, > and about 30% less expensive), it IS limited to 648GB MAX storage (6 > internal plus 12 external in 18GB & 36GB flavors), as opposed to the F720's > limit of ~500GB. Still doin' hot swap, RAID4, snapshots, OnTap, WAFL, > everything that's cool about a Filer and more! :-D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:30 AM > To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: F85 series > > > Has anyone had any experince with the F85? Does it use the same disks as the > 700 & 800's? Is it possible to back it up via NDMP? What are its > limitations? > > Simon

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RE: vol copy from 5.3.6R2 to 6.0.1R1
by Knight, Jason 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

If you are licensed for SnapMirror that should work for you. I believe you can mirror systems upstream (up to higher OS levels) but not downstream (Higher OS level to lower - at least involving 6.x). SnapMirror is pretty good for things like this. Jason Knight -----Original Message----- From: Brian L. Brush [mailto:brian@paradyne.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:22 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: vol copy from 5.3.6R2 to 6.0.1R1 I want to vol copy from an F230 running ONTAP 5.3.6R2 to an F760 running 6.0.1R1, but I encounter the following error: Filesystem version mismatch for destination volume vol1, reverting the version and aborting transfer. A console message will be displayed when this revert is complete. I can't upgrade the 230 to 6.0, and it's impractical for me to revert to 5.x on the 760. Is there any way for me to vol copy directly from the 230 to the 760? --Brian L. Brush Senior Systems Administrator Paradyne Corporation

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