toasters October 2001

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by Bart Vermeersch 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

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drive mapping issues
by neil lehrer 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

we are ontap 6.01r3d3, nfs and cifs. clients are winnt 4.0 sp5 using sun nfs client sw and native winnt cifs. filer dns name = file1 filer wins name = joe users is the nt share if i do net use * \\joe\users i get a cifs connection if i do net use * \\file1\users i get an nfs connection if i try to map a drive from the explorer gui to \\file1\users i get network path not found. our normal syntax to map drives using nfs is net use H: sunbox:/usr/local/h is there anyway to get a cifs connection using the dns name on a client that has both nfs and cifs on it?? we want to migrate from nfs to cifs. we want to use the dns names, and we can't [easily] remove the nfs client. thanks. -- regards

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by Bryan Avdyli 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

Please remove me from this alias. Thanks

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DLT 8000 support on F85 ?
by Frank Bonnet 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

Hi We have connected a HP (Quantum) DLT8000 to our F85 but I am unable to access it see the error message below ( it is the same one with every device I tried to use ... ) sysconfig -a give the following result for the concerned device slot 6: SCSI Host Adapter 6 (Qlogic ISP 1080) Ultra2/Wide, Low Voltage Differential Firmware Version 8.09 Clock Rate 100MHz. Bios Version 1.33 11: Tape: Quantum DLT8000 0233 I/O base 0xbf00, size 0x100 memory mapped I/O base 0xfdefe000, size 0x1000 I've tried to use the cloned_tapes file without success Ontap release is : NetApp Release 6.1.1R1: Wed Aug 15 17:58:35 PDT 2001 here is the result of the mt -t xxx status command ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ yfiler> mt -t rst0l status Tue Oct 16 13:41:05 CES [isp_main:error]: hba_error_proc: Unexpected bus free on 6.11 (0x8000 0xf00 0x0). Reset host adapter. Tue Oct 16 13:41:05 CES [scsi.cmd.checkCondition:error]: Device 6.11: Check Condition: CDB 0x1a: Sense Data aborted command - (0xb - 0x4b 0x0 0x0). Tue Oct 16 13:41:06 CES [isp_timeout:warning]: Resetting SCSI adapter 6 (ha #0) Tue Oct 16 13:41:06 CES [isp_timeout:warning]: Resetting SCSI bus 6 (ha #0) to clear outstanding I/O. Tue Oct 16 13:41:12 CES [isp_main:error]: hba_error_proc: Unexpected bus free on 6.11 (0x8000 0xf00 0x0). Reset host adapter. Tape drive: Quantum DLT8000 Status: ready, write enabled Format: 85937 bpi 35 GB fileno = 0 blockno = 0 resid = 0 yfiler> yfiler> Tue Oct 16 13:41:12 CES [isp_timeout:warning]: Resetting SCSI adapter 6 (ha #0) Tue Oct 16 13:41:12 CES [isp_timeout:warning]: Resetting SCSI bus 6 (ha #0) to clear outstanding I/O. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Any help welcome ( NetApp newbie ) Thanks. -- Frank Bonnet

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RE: F85 series
by Jamey Maze 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

Filer volumes must have at least one data and one parity drive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of john(a)takedapharm.com Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 10:32 PM To: tmerrill(a)mathworks.com; listsarch-toasters(a)enteract.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: F85 series >[0] I know there are a lot of "configurations" (1 shelf, 2 shelves, >etc.) but what I mean is if you buy one shelf, most people will, and >NetApp recommends, keeping 1 disk as a parity drive and 1 as a hot >spare. Sure, one could create a RAID group with 7 data drives and no >parity and hot spare, but I doubt that is "common." Is it possible with ONTAP to create a volume without a parity disk? I've got a bunch o' data that would function fine on a RAID-0 type volume... (SAS Tempfiles, holding tank for data transfers, etc...) I didn't think it was possible... If it is, I've got a use for it. -john John Witham Senior Data Networking Engineer Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. V://847.383.3304 F://847.383.3205 mailto://jwitham@takedapharm.com -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [ mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:44 PM To: listsarch-toasters(a)enteract.com Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: F85 series On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, White, Lance wrote: > performance...so, I ask again (hypothetically, that is), realistically, how > SHOULD a vendor quote storage capacity?!? ...with the most common configuration [0], accepting the default numbers and vendor's recommended operating configurations. In NetApp's case, filers with shelves should be quoted retaining a parity and hot spare drive with the default WAFL overheads and 20% snapshot reserve. Think of it this way: when a typical customer orders a filer he opens it up, plugs it in, gives it a name and a few network numbers, and <poof> how much space does he see? *That* should be the number in the quoted literature. Specifically, if we were considering the case of the self-contained F85, this would be (6 drives minus 1 parity minus 1 hot spare) 4 x 36 GB drives, minus ~10% filesystem minus ~20% snapshot reserve, for a total usable space of roughly 100 GB. In this way, there is no suprise to the customer; management isn't upset that the "216 GB" file server (36x6) they paid for is only giving them half of that to use; etc. Vendors can say also there is a "maximum usable" configuration available; "however, some important features may not be available in this configuration. Your SE can help you decide what is right for your installation." For instance, you could quote a "maximum usable" capacity of 162 GB, which is 5 drives (sacrificing the hot spare) and no snapshot reserve (5x36x0.9). All IMHO of course. I've got a small spreadsheet which takes the disk capacity and number of drives and calculates this for me, 'cause I know the marketing capacities are useless. [0] I know there are a lot of "configurations" (1 shelf, 2 shelves, etc.) but what I mean is if you buy one shelf, most people will, and NetApp recommends, keeping 1 disk as a parity drive and 1 as a hot spare. Sure, one could create a RAID group with 7 data drives and no parity and hot spare, but I doubt that is "common." Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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E2K on netapp
by Jennifer Armenta 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

Anyone with experience running E2K on netapp filers? (looking for pitfalls)

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RE: F85 series
by john＠takedapharm.com 14 Oct '01

14 Oct '01

>[0] I know there are a lot of "configurations" (1 shelf, 2 shelves, >etc.) but what I mean is if you buy one shelf, most people will, and >NetApp recommends, keeping 1 disk as a parity drive and 1 as a hot >spare. Sure, one could create a RAID group with 7 data drives and no >parity and hot spare, but I doubt that is "common." Is it possible with ONTAP to create a volume without a parity disk? I've got a bunch o' data that would function fine on a RAID-0 type volume... (SAS Tempfiles, holding tank for data transfers, etc...) I didn't think it was possible... If it is, I've got a use for it. -john John Witham Senior Data Networking Engineer Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. V://847.383.3304 F://847.383.3205 mailto://jwitham@takedapharm.com -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:44 PM To: listsarch-toasters(a)enteract.com Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: F85 series On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, White, Lance wrote: > performance...so, I ask again (hypothetically, that is), realistically, how > SHOULD a vendor quote storage capacity?!? ...with the most common configuration [0], accepting the default numbers and vendor's recommended operating configurations. In NetApp's case, filers with shelves should be quoted retaining a parity and hot spare drive with the default WAFL overheads and 20% snapshot reserve. Think of it this way: when a typical customer orders a filer he opens it up, plugs it in, gives it a name and a few network numbers, and <poof> how much space does he see? *That* should be the number in the quoted literature. Specifically, if we were considering the case of the self-contained F85, this would be (6 drives minus 1 parity minus 1 hot spare) 4 x 36 GB drives, minus ~10% filesystem minus ~20% snapshot reserve, for a total usable space of roughly 100 GB. In this way, there is no suprise to the customer; management isn't upset that the "216 GB" file server (36x6) they paid for is only giving them half of that to use; etc. Vendors can say also there is a "maximum usable" configuration available; "however, some important features may not be available in this configuration. Your SE can help you decide what is right for your installation." For instance, you could quote a "maximum usable" capacity of 162 GB, which is 5 drives (sacrificing the hot spare) and no snapshot reserve (5x36x0.9). All IMHO of course. I've got a small spreadsheet which takes the disk capacity and number of drives and calculates this for me, 'cause I know the marketing capacities are useless. [0] I know there are a lot of "configurations" (1 shelf, 2 shelves, etc.) but what I mean is if you buy one shelf, most people will, and NetApp recommends, keeping 1 disk as a parity drive and 1 as a hot spare. Sure, one could create a RAID group with 7 data drives and no parity and hot spare, but I doubt that is "common." Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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RE: cifs file creation date issue
by Muhlestein, Mark 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

ONTAP currently maintains 4 times: * atime, updated when the inode is accessed (unless you have disabled that on the volume), * mtime, updated when the file is modified, * ctime, updated when the inode is changed, and * crtime, which is set when the inode is created. Probably what is happening is that the Unix client is displaying the "mtime", while the Windows client is displaying the "crtime". The CIFS protocol has calls to retrieve the ctime, but I don't know of a way to get the ctime using the Win32 APIs. Also, the crtime is not available to NFS clients until NFSv4. So it looks like you're ok if mtime works for you; just use dir/tw from NT. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 7:40 AM > To: toasters > Cc: Chris Kern; Curt Huyser > Subject: cifs file creation date issue > > > hi, > > i used > find . -depth -print | cpio -pdm /target-directory > > to copy files from sun box to filer. > > if i look at the the file creation dates on the filer from an > nfs mount they > look okay, the same as on the source. > > but if i look at the creation dates from a cifs connection > using dir /tc > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > C:\WINNT>dir /?|more > Displays a list of files and subdirectories in a directory. > > DIR [drive:][path][filename] [/P] [/W] [/D] [/A[[:]attributes]] > [/O[[:]sortorder]] [/T[[:]timefield]] [/S] [/B] [/L] [/N] [/X] [/C] > > /T Controls which time field displayed or used for sorting > timefield C Creation > A Last Access > W Last Written > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > and some other utils the creation date on the files is the > date i cp'd the files > over. > > the files are in a unix style qtree and i am running ontap 6.01r3d3. > > > any ideas? i would really like the creation dates to be > correct for all access > methods. > -- > > > regards > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > + Neil Lehrer > + > + United States International Broadcasting Bureau > + System Development Division > + > + voice 202 619-2524 > + fax 202 619-3576 > + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov > + > + " is this crisis an opportunity or just > + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" > + > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >

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RE: Is there a way to tell who is mapping specific filer cifs sha res?
by White, Lance 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

Do this via rsh command to a Filer, or on the Filer itself. Displaying CIFS session information BM_1288165 CIFS session information you can display BM_1263345You can display information about connected users and the number of shares and open files for each user. You can also display information about a specific connected user. BM_1263347 Displaying information with the cifs sessions command BM_1263348The cifs sessions command syntax is as follows: BM_1263349cifs sessions <username> BM_1263351 Displaying information about all connected users BM_1263352To display information about all connected users, use the following command syntax: BM_1263354cifs sessions BM_1263355Sample output is BM_1263356Server Registers as 'TOASTER` in group WNT-DOMAIN BM_1263357WINS Server: 272.320.0.4 BM_1263358PC style Access Control is being used BM_1263359Using domain controller WNT-DOMAIN-PDC for authentication BM_1263360======================================== BM_1263361PC (user) #shares #files BM_1263362SMITHPC (qsmith) 1 1 BM_1263363PETERSPC (zpeters) 2 3 BM_1263364 Displaying information about one user BM_1263365To display the information for a particular user, specify the user name in the command; for example: BM_1263366cifs sessions ghopper BM_1263367users BM_1263368 shares/files opened BM_1263369BM_1263370 HALEY-HOME1 (ghopper) BM_1263371 ENG-USERS BM_1263372 Read-denyW - \GHOPPER\SRC\PROD\COMMON\HTTPD\httpd_fast.c BM_1263373BM_1263374BM_1263375 HALEY-PC (ghopper) BM_1263376 ENG-USERS BM_1263377 Displaying connected user security information BM_1263378To display security information for each connected user, use cifs sessions with the -s option. After the first two lines, detailed information for each connected user is displayed. The following example lists only one user. BM_1263379cifs sessions -s BM_1263380users BM_1263381 Security Information BM_1263382 BM_1263383HOLARD-PC (root) BM_1263384 *************** BM_1263385 UNIX uid = 0 BM_1263386 user is a member of group daemon (1) BM_1263387 user is a member of group www (204) BM_1263388 user is a member of group well (0) BM_1263389 user is a member of group http (500) BM_1263390 BM_1263391 NT membership BM_1263392 WNT-DOMAIN\root BM_1263393 WNT-DOMAIN\Domain Users BM_1263394 WNT-DOMAIN\Domain Admins BM_1263395 WNT-DOMAIN\SU Users BM_1263396 WNT-DOMAIN\Installers BM_1263397 BUILTIN\Users BM_1263398 BUILTIN\Administrators BM_1263399 User is also a member of Everyone, Network Users, BM_1263400 Authenticated Users BM_1263401 *************** -----Original Message----- From: Monica Lam [mailto:Monica.Lam@cosinecom.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 10:29 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Is there a way to tell who is mapping specific filer cifs shares? Hi, We want to intermittantly capture data on which users are mapping which cifs shares off of our filers. Any one familiar with a command line way of doing this, either from NT or solaris or the Network Appliance itself? (The information shows up in the NT server manager, but it is not very useful in terms of capturing trends...) Thanks!

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RE: diskfirmware and sofwtare upgrade
by Mohler, Jeff 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Yes, the disk firmware process will automagically happen when the filer is first booted into ONTAP 6.1. It requires no interraction and will have informational output on the process at the console as well for you. -----Original Message----- From: Zekeriya Eskiocak [mailto:zeskiocak@pro-link.net] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 1:55 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: diskfirmware and sofwtare upgrade Has anyone upgraded from 5.3.x to 6.1.x.Is diskfirmware upgrade a requirement before software upgrade? Any experience shared is welcome. thanks Zekeriya Eskiocak System Engineer Prolink Services Istanbul-TURKEY Work:+90 216 573 73 00 Mobile:+90 532 761 80 69

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