I don't have any real experience with Netapp and AWS, and where I work with HIPPA data which is still of a concern for public facing cloud for my org.
My understanding is you would put your data in an "approved" AWS and Netapp co-location and from what I have read from the public marketing stuff. Maybe someone from Netapp can chime in.
This is a bit off topic, but I do have a home QNAP that is very cool. It has the ability to dump to S3, then I have a rule that dumps to Glacier after 1 day. I dump all my home stuff like vidoes, pics of the rug rats and its around 300gb. At .01 a gb, its cheap insurance for me. A bit of a bugger to recall and find the data without running 3 party plugin. This data is only CIFS btw. My bill is monthly around $2.95 (5gb free).
Regards
Steve Klise
Storage Engineer, NCDA
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________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Mike Gossett [cmgossett@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:44 AM To: Sebastian Goetze Cc: toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: FAS backup question
Sebastian,
Could you elaborate on the usage of SMTAPE to disk?
For my purposes, a staggered weekly or event monthly backup to some other media is my only requirement. Fulls are fine, as is storage rehydration (though it would be very beneficial if I could keep it in deduplicated fashion as it would allow me to have backups more often \ keep them longer).
What would be ideal is if I could use dump\smtape (as a scheduled job, perhaps) to copy the filesystem to a remote NFS share (say, on a commodity NAS device).
From further reading, it appears that "remote ndmp" can be used to stream the NDMP dump directly to my backup media server (e.g. Backup Exec), which I could configure to write either to a tape device connected directly to the backup exec server, or to disk storage (e.g. iscsi connection to aforementioned commodity NAS device).
I've found evidence that with "priv set diag" one can use smtape to copy a volume to another volume on the netapp and copy it off, though I don't see any real benefit to doing so other than the space savings.
Any other creative ideas? I could use an NFS client and a copy job from the .snapshot directories, but that seems troublesome to maintain and monitor.
Steve, after thinking about the Amazon AWS (and I presume Glacier?) comment you had I'm interested in hearing more. Have you heard how this is configured? In the past other clients have needed to initiate either a direct connect with Amazon or an IPsec tunnel off of routers announcing address space via BGP. I'm assuming this isn't required for lower bandwidth implementations?
Thanks, Mike
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Sebastian Goetze <spgoetze@gmail.commailto:spgoetze@gmail.com> wrote: Hi James,
just to mention: since SV/SM is based upon SnapShots that are by design *readonly*, it's not possible to 'wipe' them through file system means. But if a hacker actually gains access to the destination filer itself and messes with it (e.g. vol destroy)...
And yes, you can SMTape. (Neat thing: it keeps dedupe savings, as opposed to NDMP-based backup) smtape NAME na_smtape - image-based backup and restore SYNOPSIS smtape backup [ options] path tape_device smtape restore [ options] path tape_device smtape restore -g path smtape restore -h tape_device smtape abort job_id smtape continue job_id [ tape_device] smtape status [ -l ] [ [ -p path] | [ job_id] ] smtape help [ subcommand ] DESCRIPTION The smtape command is used to manage backup and restore operations. It allows user to backup a volume to tape, restore to a volume from tape, abort or continue an operation, show the status of an operation, and get help on smtape command.
HTH
Sebastian
On 15.05.2013 07:54, James Andrewartha wrote:
On 15/05/13 07:13, Mike Gossett wrote:
Thanks everyone for your insight. A VTL isn't in the budget at this point, and candidly I'm not totally sold on the combination snapmirror\snapvault with a pair of filers geographically separated being insufficient, but the client has a particular need.
I'm pretty happy with SV to a geographically diverse filer, but on another mailing list I'm on there's some discussion about how any online backup could be wiped by hackers. I have no interest in setting up a tape infrastructure, so what options are there for offline disk backup? Can you SMTape to disk? NDMP perhaps?
Thanks,
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